In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:31609b0e-d647-408e-ba0c-600e6f87f890">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Are we talking infant-child? Toddler-child? School-age child? I ask because it's hot here. Like, really, really hot. People here don't usually make their kids wear shoes that need socks in the summer, because it's too hot. It's usually just sandals. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
I mean babies in strollers who can't walk yet. I think it looks trashy, and since most people don't have the sense to put sunblock ALL OVER their child's body, they can suffer severe sunburn on their feet.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:4f8071b4-23f8-4a7d-89ab-23b76878c992">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I mean babies in strollers who can't walk yet. I think it looks trashy, and since most people don't have the sense to put sunblock ALL OVER their child's body, they can suffer severe sunburn on their feet. Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:ba7613a6-90d2-4e04-80a4-0c0977975e41">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE] I judge the lady who had a screaming - and I mean SCREAMING! - red faced and watery eyed baby in her shopping cart at Marshalls last night. Posted by SarahRuthG[/QUOTE]
Every time I go to Marshalls, Ross or TJ Maxx, I experience a moment like that.
The people that go in there----scare me. I hate going there BECAUSE of that. If the people that went there were semi-normal, I'd probably shop there more.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:ba7613a6-90d2-4e04-80a4-0c0977975e41">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]I judge people who think they are better then everyone else. Get off your high horse and come down here with the rest of us. Its not so bad down here... I dont mind it at all. Posted by SarahRuthG[/QUOTE]
But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it.
Green pepper, I have never thought that was bad or trashy. I think most people I know don't put socks on babies and I'm not trashy. Weird.
I judge people who have their kids out at malls and restaurants when it's cleary time for their nap. That's why they're screaming and crying, genius.
Re: expensive vacations and strollers - my mom vowed to never take us to Disneyworld before we could remember it. And, in the end, we never did go. But I have been to Disneyland. On my own, as an adult.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:d8cbc9d1-de6a-477b-aee7-028909304814">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE] On my own, as an adult. I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number. Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
eh. I've had the same number since I was 18- I'm not about to change it when I move.
you can get free numbers through google voice. it's eaiser than changing your number
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:bef1c364-a8fd-4ef2-a689-2f6cbdf7d779">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it. Green pepper, I have never thought that was bad or trashy. I think most people I know don't put socks on babies and I'm not trashy. Weird. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
Andy, I do think that if people take their infants into public, shoes or socks should be worn.
But I count socks on babies as shoes. I feel like a person should dress their child before leaving.
But I'm willing to overlook the barefoot child when a child ISN'T WEARING ANY CLOTHES.
I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:b815d14e-f299-454a-9127-1482878d2135">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Exactly. I also judge people who bring a plethora of toys and snacks for their kids while they are at church. It's an HOUR. Your child can deal with not eating for an hour and they can certainly live with not playing with toys for an hour. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more with this. I also judge the parents who hold their kids who are in the 2nd grade during church.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:bef1c364-a8fd-4ef2-a689-2f6cbdf7d779">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
lol! Ok how about I judge people that think they are better then everyone else but I too stuck up to just come out and say they are better then everyone else. You gotta be true to yourself =)
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In Response to Re: I Judge: [ I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number. Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
My fiance still has his NY cell number.... drives me nuts. lol.... but I let it go because he still works in NY and all his childhood friends and close family are there. But I have never been able to remember his cell number off the top of my head and I swear its because its an NY number... it just wont sink into my blonde head.
Married & TTC #1 since 8/28/10
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In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:25a2f8c1-5f41-4d66-a584-2fbc3e0fe39c">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Andy, I do think that if people take their infants into public, shoes or socks should be worn. But I count socks on babies as shoes. I feel like a person should dress their child before leaving. But I'm willing to overlook the barefoot child when a child ISN'T WEARING ANY CLOTHES. I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
This. For clarification, I meant taking babies out in public, barefoot. I didn't say parents who do it are trashy; it just looks trashy. It irks me.
Also, I judge those who constantly feel the need to suck up to another Knottie. There's this woman on a board where I lurk, and she's so holier-than-thou and mean for no good reason, and everyone else feels the need to kiss her ass. It bothers the hell out of me.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:66ecb849-09cb-4032-80d1-7c750655ab75">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : eh. I've had the same number since I was 18- I'm not about to change it when I move. you can get free numbers through google voice. it's eaiser than changing your number Posted by angie74[/QUOTE]
I've had the same number for 7 years, so I get the level of comfort. But if you don't live in that area code, why wouldn't you change it? Like I said, employers (t least where I live) do not take you seriously with an out of state number. Changing it shows you are proactive about being in a new environment and willing to commit to a new place. Which is understandable - I've known many people who moved out here only to pack it up and go home a few months later when it turns out to be too expensive, too competitive, or too different from what they expected. And FWIW, we have like 7 area codes in this area that you can pick from.
Edit: I also think if you live someplace with ONE area code and you constantly have to give people your number with your area code, it must get annoying.
I also judge my neighbors who were setting off fireworks at 10pm last night for half an hour. Over the holiday weekend, sure do whatever you want. On nights when people typically have to get up early to go to work, be more considerate.
As far as the snacks/toys go during church...I know it's only for an hour, but I personally don't judge based on the age. If the kid is in 2nd grade, well, okay...they should know better.
For the kids that aren't in school yet...I think it depends. Usually if I bring something for my nephew in my purse, it's 1-2 toys, and it's something that he can fit in his hand. Last time I brought a toy dinosaur, 2 crayons and cheerios or something like that.
I don't think that it's "encouraging" bad behavior. My nephew is a chatty child, and while he knows about whispering and when to be quiet, an hour is a long time to a kid, you know? They're not used to sitting quietly in class like older kids are. It's one thing if the toys/snacks were to become a disruption to other people in the pews, but if it keeps the kids quiet, what's the harm?
I grew up going to church as a little kid, so I remember my grandparents handing me a small snack or toy to just hold during the sermon. It kept me quiet and from asking my grandparents questions during the service. It didn't do any long-term damage to me. H doesn't have to give me snacks during church or give me something to color on.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:25a2f8c1-5f41-4d66-a584-2fbc3e0fe39c">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!!
And the whole time, my future husband was in the room......
Oh ok, I get the "dressing" your child for public. I mis-read it and thought that you meant babies had to wear socks at all times. Oops!
In DC, everyone I know has a non-dc area phone number. It's just a temporary place that no one ever changes it, it seems. I know people who don't have local banks or anything.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:b717e693-08b6-42c4-9435-561871a703a4">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]As far as the snacks/toys go during church...I know it's only for an hour, but I personally don't judge based on the age. If the kid is in 2nd grade, well, okay...they should know better. For the kids that aren't in school yet...I think it depends. Usually if I bring something for my nephew in my purse, it's 1-2 toys, and it's something that he can fit in his hand. Last time I brought a toy dinosaur, 2 crayons and cheerios or something like that. I don't think that it's "encouraging" bad behavior. My nephew is a chatty child, and while he knows about whispering and when to be quiet, an hour is a long time to a kid, you know? They're not used to sitting quietly in class like older kids are. It's one thing if the toys/snacks were to become a disruption to other people in the pews, but if it keeps the kids quiet, what's the harm? I grew up going to church as a little kid, so I remember my grandparents handing me a small snack or toy to just hold during the sermon. It kept me quiet and from asking my grandparents questions during the service. It didn't do any long-term damage to me. H doesn't have to give me snacks during church or give me something to color on. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service.
Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:ae698fc9-1142-47e3-8c7c-2f6afac00ed3">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!! Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
I can't stand those either. I really hope my brother and SIL don't put them on my niece.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:e9f05bb2-70f2-4aed-bdcd-bc4142335ed9">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service. Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age. Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
That's where the parents should get up and take that kid out of the sanctuary.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:ae698fc9-1142-47e3-8c7c-2f6afac00ed3">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!! Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
OMG. YES. I saw that on TV and thought, "WELL THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN."
I worked at a daycare and had a class of 12-18 month olds. I never thought to myself, "I wish they didn't have to wear pants!"
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:caa97e17-d7fa-4184-94e6-6a413779e473">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : That's where the parents should get up and take that kid out of the sanctuary. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
But they don't.
They SHOULD, but they DON'T.
We were at VBS a couple of weeks ago, and I had 4th grade. This lady, who has a granddaughter who is 4 was the teacher of 1st grade. The granddaughter wasn't seated with her class, and while we were praying, the girl started making all sorts of noise, climbed all over the pew and then right before they said "Amen" she ran down the aisle.
I was just about to post that kids in just diapers in public bugged me. I realize that it's 100 degrees, but you should still put clothing on your child in public. That's just part of being in a civilized society.
I judge many of people the PPs mentioned.. but too many to quote! (but mostly the ones mistreating babies/pets... seriously.. you are responsible for them, people!)
I judge my roommate for having the AC turn off during the day because he works normal hours. He knows I work weekends and study for my boards during the day!! I left for an errand and came back to an 80deg apt. I have a fainting disorder because of my heart condition and I had a full on episode and it took me 4 hours to recover.
I judge my roommates GF for constantly thinking she is better than me. IMO, she isn't (based on what I consider important) but she is CONSTANTLY acting all superior. Can I just slap her and say we are not in high school anymore? Stop acting like such a DB.. trust me.. all of your BFs friends would start enjoying your presence.
I judge people who don't understand that not everyone loves their dogs. I love my dogs, but if you don't and you invite me over, I won't bring them, similarly if you are at my house I won't let them jump on you. I don't take them out to eat, not everyone wants a dog on the patio of their restraint. Its not that hard.
I judge me for not being able to concentrate today.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:a7236446-6b96-4e57-9b9c-408d92f5f21f">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]Right. I totally agree. But feeding them snacks and giving them toys doesn't teach them to sit down and stfu either. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
No, handing them snacks and toys and calling it a day DOESN'T teach them anything, you're right.
But telling them that church is starting, that they need to stay quiet play with the toy, eat the snack and stay in their seat is teaching.
It's all in how you handle it.
I've never taken my nephew to church and not told him how I expect him to stay still and quiet until it's time to leave. The snack/toy is to help him pass the time since 30 or so minutes of a strange man talking to him feels like an eternity.
I'm really not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't see why it's something that seems to really bother you.
Now, if I was giving him peppermints and making a lot of noise with the wrappers, then judge away, but like I said, if he gets a snack (and he doesn't always) I always put it in a container that doesn't make noise.
At our church we do all sorts of dancing, tambourine playing and singing BEFORE the service starts. So when it's time to sit and be quiet Jocelyn has a hard time switching over right away. She has no problem being quiet, it's the sitting part that gets her. So I bring 2 crayons and a small pad of paper and usually another small toy of her choice. She sits and colors until her dancing body calms down. I keep snacks and a drink with me too, but she rarely gets them unless it's a long service. Our service is 2 hours long and I haven't had to take her to the cry room for at least a year (she's 2.5). We sit in the second row. it's all about being prepared and knowing how to parent your child. There's nothing wrong with being prepared, especially when you have to put your finger up and walk out as a sign of respect to the pastor (supposedly it makes you invisible, idk lol). It's embarrassing and I'd much rather avoid all of that.
Now if you're giving your child candy and all kinds of crazy things, and making a mess in the pew - then shame on you.
Re: I Judge
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Are we talking infant-child? Toddler-child? School-age child? I ask because it's hot here. Like, really, really hot. People here don't usually make their kids wear shoes that need socks in the summer, because it's too hot. It's usually just sandals.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
I mean babies in strollers who can't walk yet. I think it looks trashy, and since most people don't have the sense to put sunblock ALL OVER their child's body, they can suffer severe sunburn on their feet.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I mean babies in strollers who can't walk yet. I think it looks trashy, and since most people don't have the sense to put sunblock ALL OVER their child's body, they can suffer severe sunburn on their feet.
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]
In that case I'm with you.
[QUOTE] I judge the lady who had a screaming - and I mean SCREAMING! - red faced and watery eyed baby in her shopping cart at Marshalls last night.
Posted by SarahRuthG[/QUOTE]
Every time I go to Marshalls, Ross or TJ Maxx, I experience a moment like that.
The people that go in there----scare me. I hate going there BECAUSE of that. If the people that went there were semi-normal, I'd probably shop there more.
[QUOTE]I judge people who think they are better then everyone else. Get off your high horse and come down here with the rest of us. Its not so bad down here... I dont mind it at all.
Posted by SarahRuthG[/QUOTE]
But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it.
Green pepper, I have never thought that was bad or trashy. I think most people I know don't put socks on babies and I'm not trashy. Weird.
Re: expensive vacations and strollers - my mom vowed to never take us to Disneyworld before we could remember it. And, in the end, we never did go. But I have been to Disneyland. On my own, as an adult.
I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number.
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[QUOTE] On my own, as an adult. I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
eh. I've had the same number since I was 18- I'm not about to change it when I move.
you can get free numbers through google voice. it's eaiser than changing your number
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it. Green pepper, I have never thought that was bad or trashy. I think most people I know don't put socks on babies and I'm not trashy. Weird.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
Andy, I do think that if people take their infants into public, shoes or socks should be worn.
But I count socks on babies as shoes. I feel like a person should dress their child before leaving.
But I'm willing to overlook the barefoot child when a child ISN'T WEARING ANY CLOTHES.
I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Exactly. I also judge people who bring a plethora of toys and snacks for their kids while they are at church. It's an HOUR. Your child can deal with not eating for an hour and they can certainly live with not playing with toys for an hour. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more with this. I also judge the parents who hold their kids who are in the 2nd grade during church.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : But I am better than everyone else. I can't help it.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
lol! Ok how about I judge people that think they are better then everyone else but I too stuck up to just come out and say they are better then everyone else. You gotta be true to yourself =)
[ I'll probably get flamed for this, but I judge people who move to a new state and don't change their phone number. Come on. College is one thing, but if you're starting a life somewhere else, make it look like you're commited to being there and not just a temporary resident. Cell phones all have "free" long distance, so your parents can call you cheaply. Not to mention, before cell phones, people had to change their phone number every time they moved. Seriously, landlords and HR managers will judge you if you have an out-of-state area code. I have a friend who KNOWS this (had me put down my phone number when we were looking for apartments for this reason), has lived here for 4 or 5 years, and still has a NY number.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
My fiance still has his NY cell number.... drives me nuts. lol.... but I let it go because he still works in NY and all his childhood friends and close family are there. But I have never been able to remember his cell number off the top of my head and I swear its because its an NY number... it just wont sink into my blonde head.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Andy, I do think that if people take their infants into public, shoes or socks should be worn. But I count socks on babies as shoes. I feel like a person should dress their child before leaving. But I'm willing to overlook the barefoot child when a child ISN'T WEARING ANY CLOTHES. I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
This. For clarification, I meant taking babies out in public, barefoot. I didn't say parents who do it are trashy; it just looks trashy. It irks me.
Also, I judge those who constantly feel the need to suck up to another Knottie. There's this woman on a board where I lurk, and she's so holier-than-thou and mean for no good reason, and everyone else feels the need to kiss her ass. It bothers the hell out of me.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : eh. I've had the same number since I was 18- I'm not about to change it when I move. you can get free numbers through google voice. it's eaiser than changing your number
Posted by angie74[/QUOTE]
I've had the same number for 7 years, so I get the level of comfort. But if you don't live in that area code, why wouldn't you change it? Like I said, employers (t least where I live) do not take you seriously with an out of state number. Changing it shows you are proactive about being in a new environment and willing to commit to a new place. Which is understandable - I've known many people who moved out here only to pack it up and go home a few months later when it turns out to be too expensive, too competitive, or too different from what they expected. And FWIW, we have like 7 area codes in this area that you can pick from.
Edit: I also think if you live someplace with ONE area code and you constantly have to give people your number with your area code, it must get annoying.
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For the kids that aren't in school yet...I think it depends. Usually if I bring something for my nephew in my purse, it's 1-2 toys, and it's something that he can fit in his hand. Last time I brought a toy dinosaur, 2 crayons and cheerios or something like that.
I don't think that it's "encouraging" bad behavior. My nephew is a chatty child, and while he knows about whispering and when to be quiet, an hour is a long time to a kid, you know? They're not used to sitting quietly in class like older kids are. It's one thing if the toys/snacks were to become a disruption to other people in the pews, but if it keeps the kids quiet, what's the harm?
I grew up going to church as a little kid, so I remember my grandparents handing me a small snack or toy to just hold during the sermon. It kept me quiet and from asking my grandparents questions during the service. It didn't do any long-term damage to me. H doesn't have to give me snacks during church or give me something to color on.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I hate that.OMG, I hate seeing a child ONLY in a diaper when they aren't at home.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!!
In DC, everyone I know has a non-dc area phone number. It's just a temporary place that no one ever changes it, it seems. I know people who don't have local banks or anything.
[QUOTE]As far as the snacks/toys go during church...I know it's only for an hour, but I personally don't judge based on the age. If the kid is in 2nd grade, well, okay...they should know better. For the kids that aren't in school yet...I think it depends. Usually if I bring something for my nephew in my purse, it's 1-2 toys, and it's something that he can fit in his hand. Last time I brought a toy dinosaur, 2 crayons and cheerios or something like that. I don't think that it's "encouraging" bad behavior. My nephew is a chatty child, and while he knows about whispering and when to be quiet, an hour is a long time to a kid, you know? They're not used to sitting quietly in class like older kids are. It's one thing if the toys/snacks were to become a disruption to other people in the pews, but if it keeps the kids quiet, what's the harm? I grew up going to church as a little kid, so I remember my grandparents handing me a small snack or toy to just hold during the sermon. It kept me quiet and from asking my grandparents questions during the service. It didn't do any long-term damage to me. H doesn't have to give me snacks during church or give me something to color on.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service.
Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!!
Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
I can't stand those either. I really hope my brother and SIL don't put them on my niece.
Those jean diapers make me *snort*
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service. Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
That's where the parents should get up and take that kid out of the sanctuary.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : So do you hate those new jean diapers as much as I do. I hate that mess!!!!
Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
OMG. YES. I saw that on TV and thought, "WELL THAT'S THE STUPIDEST THING I'VE EVER SEEN."
I worked at a daycare and had a class of 12-18 month olds. I never thought to myself, "I wish they didn't have to wear pants!"
Jean diapers = stupid.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : That's where the parents should get up and take that kid out of the sanctuary.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
But they don't.
They SHOULD, but they DON'T.
We were at VBS a couple of weeks ago, and I had 4th grade. This lady, who has a granddaughter who is 4 was the teacher of 1st grade. The granddaughter wasn't seated with her class, and while we were praying, the girl started making all sorts of noise, climbed all over the pew and then right before they said "Amen" she ran down the aisle.
Did the grandmother do a thing?
Definitely not.
Case in point.
For infants, it works. By the time they're one, they're better about changing clothes.
I hate seeing a kid that's like---18 months old wearing a freakin' onesie without shorts/pants.
I judge people who don't understand that not everyone loves their dogs. I love my dogs, but if you don't and you invite me over, I won't bring them, similarly if you are at my house I won't let them jump on you. I don't take them out to eat, not everyone wants a dog on the patio of their restraint. Its not that hard.
I judge me for not being able to concentrate today.
[QUOTE]Right. I totally agree. But feeding them snacks and giving them toys doesn't teach them to sit down and stfu either.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
No, handing them snacks and toys and calling it a day DOESN'T teach them anything, you're right.
But telling them that church is starting, that they need to stay quiet play with the toy, eat the snack and stay in their seat is teaching.
It's all in how you handle it.
I've never taken my nephew to church and not told him how I expect him to stay still and quiet until it's time to leave. The snack/toy is to help him pass the time since 30 or so minutes of a strange man talking to him feels like an eternity.
I'm really not trying to be rude or anything, but I don't see why it's something that seems to really bother you.
Now, if I was giving him peppermints and making a lot of noise with the wrappers, then judge away, but like I said, if he gets a snack (and he doesn't always) I always put it in a container that doesn't make noise.
Now if you're giving your child candy and all kinds of crazy things, and making a mess in the pew - then shame on you.