In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:0668fbe9-938d-44a3-a7a2-4e52e87fe13a">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]At our church we do all sorts of dancing, tambourine playing and singing BEFORE the service starts. So when it's time to sit and be quiet Jocelyn has a hard time switching over right away. She has no problem being quiet, it's the sitting part that gets her. So I bring 2 crayons and a small pad of paper and usually another small toy of her choice. She sits and colors until her dancing body calms down. I keep snacks and a drink with me too, but she rarely gets them unless it's a long service. Our service is 2 hours long and I haven't had to take her to the cry room for at least a year (she's 2.5). We sit in the second row. it's all about being prepared and knowing how to parent your child. There's nothing wrong with being prepared, especially when you have to put your finger up and walk out as a sign of respect to the pastor (supposedly it makes you invisible, idk lol). It's embarrassing and I'd much rather avoid all of that. Now if you're giving your child candy and all kinds of crazy things, and making a mess in the pew - then shame on you. Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
It bothers me because I think it makes children misbehave more reguarly and makes them even more self centered than they already are. Now, before I get flamed for that I know that children are born self-centered and that they eventually grow up of it (or many do) but I think it only enables bad behavior. Children need to learn to be respectful and how to be part of a community without constant coddling. You can disagree and that's fine.
I won't flame andyandhillary because she is right. My cousins were so well behaved at age 3.... they knew their mother loved them.. and they knew she had expectations.
There are as many DBs today as there are because of bad parenting.
When Declan was 5-8 months last summer, I never put socks/shoes on him because babies can have trouble regulating their own body temperature before the age of one. If we were indoors, sure, but if we were outside at the park, and it was over 80 degrees, no way. It's really easy for a baby to get too hot or cold. I don't think it's trashy at all, in the right circumstances.
I DO think babies in only diapers is super trashy.
I judge my landlord for telling my exFI that he "wasn't sure" about me living in the apartment all by myself because I'm a woman. I can't possibly live on my own, could I? I'm such a delicate thing.
I've been using my nephew as an example, and I don't say it because I'm biased, but he really is a wonderfully behaved child. He knows that the expectations that his mom has given him are the same when he's with me, with my mom, or with anyone else. I have NEVER had to correct his behavior at church, but I continue to give him something to entertain himself with, and I don't consider that to be coddling.
I know that I don't have children, so it sounds weird for me to say this, but I think that your opinion will change when you DO have kids.
At my church, we have Sunday School and then church. He goes to Sunday School, and then sits in church with me. He's too young for our children's church, but I don't want to leave him in the nursery, so I take him with me. But the sermon isn't for him. It isn't meant to be for him. The sermon is for the adults, and essentially, for me. So I think it's fair to allow him to occupy himself quietly for an hour so that I can actually pay attention in church.
It certainly beats the scenario I gave you about the girl at VBS.
Some of these judges are really cracking me up today. I don't remember who said what, but someone said that a baby only wearing a diaper was wrong because they need to learn to dress themselves. You do realize they are BABIES, right? I'm pretty sure they don't know the difference. I'm on team clothes too, but I think that's a really silly reasoning.
It also cracks me up that providing toys that keep your kid quiet = bad parenting. So church bores a kid. They cry, you get up and take the kid out. It realizes that crying gets them out of a boring situation. So they start to do it just to get out of the situation. I'd much rather provide a toy to keep them quiet than be up and down for an hour. And I agree that this is an age based thing. The older they get, they need to realize that this is how you behave. But younger kids? They simply don't have the reasoning ability to realize that yet.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:162f93cd-3adf-4eaa-a71a-a12cbb43159b">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]Some of these judges are really cracking me up today. I don't remember who said what, but someone said that a baby only wearing a diaper was wrong because they need to learn to dress themselves. You do realize they are BABIES, right? I'm pretty sure they don't know the difference. I'm on team clothes too, but I think that's a really silly reasoning.
It also cracks me up that providing toys that keep your kid quiet = bad parenting. So church bores a kid. They cry, you get up and take the kid out. It realizes that crying gets them out of a boring situation. So they start to do it just to get out of the situation. I'd much rather provide a toy to keep them quiet than be up and down for an hour. And I agree that this is an age based thing. <strong>The older they get, they need to realize that this is how you behave. But younger kids? They simply don't have the reasoning ability to realize that yet.</strong> Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
Someone said that about dressing babies? Oh my. I missed that.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:dc549b99-580b-4d89-919d-0cab59202499">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE] I know that I don't have children, so it sounds weird for me to say this, but I think that your opinion will change when you DO have kids. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:e9f05bb2-70f2-4aed-bdcd-bc4142335ed9">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service. Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age. Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
This is the one that made me laugh. I guess if your kid is still wearing a diaper at 3, then it's time to teach them. Before that, I'm not sure they're really going to understand how to dress themselves.
And again, I'm on the please put clothes on your baby before leaving the house. But not for the reason of 'teaching them'
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:91b02f98-4865-44de-87df-96d4f77d8c8b">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:91b02f98-4865-44de-87df-96d4f77d8c8b">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
That's why I said I felt funny saying it to you when I don't have kids.
Your original judgment is a not so much generic, but more of an idyllic rule. I'm sure that you're going to be a great parent and I don't doubt that you'll make your expectations for your kids clear from the start, but like you said, kids are a case by case basis. And while you can hope that your kids will never need a crayon or small toy during church, it's a possibility that they will.
I was talking about bringing my nephew to church, and I didn't make it clear that it's not a weekly event. It's only sometimes. If it were weekly, I'd probably pack an emergency snack/toy and only give him the crayons regularly.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:80480417-7790-4dcf-b74f-ca5e7f790c24">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right. Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:59ea7365-879c-41d2-892f-c7b3546828d5">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I believe that you and I are sharing a brain. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
:) I was starting to get offended, but decided it wasn't meant to be offensive. I have to be confident in how I parent and the choices I make for her. So I can't judge someone for thinking something different. As long as a well behaved kid is the end result - does it really matter?
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:f99504aa-8c88-4289-8ded-8137c4452858">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : :) I was starting to get offended, but decided it wasn't meant to be offensive. I have to be confident in how I parent and the choices I make for her. So I can't judge someone for thinking something different. As long as a well behaved kid is the end result - does it really matter? Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
My H came home from work yesterday with a story about a voicemail on his office phone from one of the married contractors at work to one of the married managers at work. (Their phone lines apparently get crossed all the time). He said the woman who left the message was with/near her husband when she left it (kept mentioning not being able to talk because he was near) and kept referring to this manager as "boyfriend". Well H recognized the voice and took it to another manager to deal with as they have a non-fraternization policy at work and everyone assumed they were having an affair but no one could prove it. He was so disgusted that he was basically put in the middle of that.
Two months ago they had to fire someone because her and another married guy at work were having an affair and actually fvking in the back office when everyone else was gone.
I judge a poster who tells me she doesn't go and talk about our board and me but then goes and does it anyway. No worries, I'm done being a mod...I don't get paid to do it and at 40 I'm done with your sht.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:dace7e8b-4746-4603-8439-9526db04595c">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]I judge a poster who tells me she doesn't go and talk about our board and me but then goes and does it anyway. No worries, I'm done being a mod...I don't get paid to do it and at 40 I'm done with your sht. Posted by ukyankee[/QUOTE] woah. And I thought AA was reffering to beauty.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:dace7e8b-4746-4603-8439-9526db04595c">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]I judge a poster who tells me she doesn't go and talk about our board and me but then goes and does it anyway. No worries, I'm done being a mod...I don't get paid to do it and at 40 I'm done with your sht. Posted by ukyankee[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:80480417-7790-4dcf-b74f-ca5e7f790c24">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right. Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
Youre "some day parenting style" is a titch insulting. You're acting like I sit on a throne and judge parents. I do have nieces and nephews. Their parents raise their children the same way I intend to.
I'm glad you parenting method works. I don't have to agree with it.
How in the world could it be insulting? YOU'RE NOT A PARENT YET. And yeah, you ARE judging parents. Hence you're in the "I judge" thread.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
Touche on the judging. It's insulting because it's gives this tone of "Oh you have NO idea on what raising children is like." It's not like I made up a parenting style in my own head. I was raised by my parents in that manner, so was Andy, and our nieces and nephews are treated the same. Therefore, I DO know what I am talking about, for my experience.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:8d791459-6acb-4ff3-a06d-4661a958f3e6">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]I judge people who don't get their feet done in the summer but INSIST on wearing sandals. No one wants to see your crusty toes. If you can't afford to get them done @ a shop, do them @ home. I also judge any knottie who is always saying that she doesn't have to pay a cent for her wedding. So what??? Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
Thanks for calling me out, Miss Courtney!!! I went and got a mani/pedi during lunch thanks to your judging :) Now my toesies are all pretty and sparkly :)
Also, I am unfamiliar with the knottie that always says she doesn't have to pay for anything? What am I missing?
Did I say your some day parenting methods were wrong? Ummmm, NO. Did I say that I started to get insulted, but then decided that it was just a difference of opinion and that I respected it? Ummmmm, YES. Therefore, how would I think that you're on a high horse. It's not your parenting style now, but it will be some day. You're reading way too far into it. I've actually done nothing but respect your opinion but also offer a different view on how I raise my daughter. I am open to seeing your point of view, you however think only your way is correct.
The thing about parenting is to always get better, how do you know I might not go to church on Sunday and TRY to let her sit without a crayon to see if she could do it? I'm always looking for new creative ideas to parent, and I also alter my parenting to get the best results from Jocelyn.
There are plenty of ways to parent a child correctly, none of which are wrong. Just different.
As much as I would like to say the exact kind of parent I'm going to be, I can't say that I know exactly what kind of parent I'm going to be until I become a parent.
I hope that you can come to terms with that reality.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:e55879bd-05d0-4fd1-885f-cfde282817dd">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : This is the one that made me laugh. I guess if your kid is still wearing a diaper at 3, then it's time to teach them. Before that, I'm not sure they're really going to understand how to dress themselves. And again, I'm on the please put clothes on your baby before leaving the house. But not for the reason of 'teaching them' Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean that they need to learn to dress themselves, at all. That's clearly not what I said. I meant it sets an example, which you need to start with kids at a young age. And no, 6 month old isn't going to learn a lesson, but an 18 month old or 20 month old will learn that you need to get dressed before you go outside. It also sets an example for older siblings - the baby has to get ready so you can be appropriately dressed in public. Like Georgia said, it's part of a civilized society.
Not to mention that toddlers often stick their hands in their diapers if they aren't wearing pants, so I'm not sure why a parent would want that situation to occur...
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:da99df8f-8aee-4eb9-a4bd-25269614661f">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]Did I say your some day parenting methods were wrong? Ummmm, NO. Did I say that I started to get insulted, but then decided that it was just a difference of opinion and that I respected it? Ummmmm, YES. Therefore, how would I think that you're on a high horse. It's not your parenting style now, but it will be some day. You're reading way too far into it. I've actually done nothing but respect your opinion but also offer a different view on how I raise my daughter. I am open to seeing your point of view, you however think only your way is correct. The thing about parenting is to always get better, how do you know I might not go to church on Sunday and TRY to let her sit without a crayon to see if she could do it? I'm always looking for new creative ideas to parent, and I also alter my parenting to get the best results from Jocelyn. There are plenty of ways to parent a child correctly, none of which are wrong. Just different. Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
I just felt you were condescending, that's all. It's the internet, things aren't always written and read the way we mean them. Good to know you didn't mean it like that.
It's an I Judge thread. I'm sure someone on this board who read this will push their 8 year old in a stroller and think I'm an ass for disagreeing. Fine. Someone's feelings isn't going to stop me from disagreeing or judging. You can judge me for judging.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:a591250c-2258-461d-9783-2ee56da63b9d">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]As much as I would like to say the exact kind of parent I'm going to be, I can't say that I know exactly what kind of parent I'm going to be until I become a parent. I hope that you can come to terms with that reality. Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-18?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b89e7fcd-6cc8-4e6f-8ab3-0f302069d725Post:f3eb65b4-f962-4cb6-878a-ea67d756a7dc">Re: I Judge</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I just felt you were condescending, that's all. It's the internet, things aren't always written and read the way we mean them. Good to know you didn't mean it like that. It's an I Judge thread. I'm sure someone on this board who read this will push their 8 year old in a stroller and think I'm an ass for disagreeing. Fine. Someone's feelings isn't going to stop me from disagreeing or judging. You can judge me for judging. Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
No worries, judge away, it's your right. I wasn't being condescending at all though, promise.
I judge FI's new boss for making the statement today about how they make "exceptions" for him by "letting him off work" to go to drill. Um, no, YOU are not making exceptions, it's a federal law.
I'm on team stack/jess with choosing the method for keeping your kids quiet that works best for your kids.
And, the socks & shoes on infants thing? I think it looks ridiculous to put shoes on babies. And most of the time, they kick socks off. So why waste money on socks they're going to loose and shoes they can't walk in anyway? Personally, it looks like you're more concerned with appearances than what is practical, reasonable, and necessary for a baby.
Re: I Judge
[QUOTE]At our church we do all sorts of dancing, tambourine playing and singing BEFORE the service starts. So when it's time to sit and be quiet Jocelyn has a hard time switching over right away. She has no problem being quiet, it's the sitting part that gets her. So I bring 2 crayons and a small pad of paper and usually another small toy of her choice. She sits and colors until her dancing body calms down. I keep snacks and a drink with me too, but she rarely gets them unless it's a long service. Our service is 2 hours long and I haven't had to take her to the cry room for at least a year (she's 2.5). We sit in the second row. it's all about being prepared and knowing how to parent your child. There's nothing wrong with being prepared, especially when you have to put your finger up and walk out as a sign of respect to the pastor (supposedly it makes you invisible, idk lol). It's embarrassing and I'd much rather avoid all of that. Now if you're giving your child candy and all kinds of crazy things, and making a mess in the pew - then shame on you.
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
OMG, this.
I DO think babies in only diapers is super trashy.
I judge my landlord for telling my exFI that he "wasn't sure" about me living in the apartment all by myself because I'm a woman. I can't possibly live on my own, could I? I'm such a delicate thing.
But I also think it's a case-by-case basis.
I've been using my nephew as an example, and I don't say it because I'm biased, but he really is a wonderfully behaved child. He knows that the expectations that his mom has given him are the same when he's with me, with my mom, or with anyone else. I have NEVER had to correct his behavior at church, but I continue to give him something to entertain himself with, and I don't consider that to be coddling.
I know that I don't have children, so it sounds weird for me to say this, but I think that your opinion will change when you DO have kids.
At my church, we have Sunday School and then church. He goes to Sunday School, and then sits in church with me. He's too young for our children's church, but I don't want to leave him in the nursery, so I take him with me. But the sermon isn't for him. It isn't meant to be for him. The sermon is for the adults, and essentially, for me. So I think it's fair to allow him to occupy himself quietly for an hour so that I can actually pay attention in church.
It certainly beats the scenario I gave you about the girl at VBS.
It also cracks me up that providing toys that keep your kid quiet = bad parenting. So church bores a kid. They cry, you get up and take the kid out. It realizes that crying gets them out of a boring situation. So they start to do it just to get out of the situation. I'd much rather provide a toy to keep them quiet than be up and down for an hour. And I agree that this is an age based thing. The older they get, they need to realize that this is how you behave. But younger kids? They simply don't have the reasoning ability to realize that yet.
[QUOTE]Some of these judges are really cracking me up today. I don't remember who said what, but someone said that a baby only wearing a diaper was wrong because they need to learn to dress themselves. You do realize they are BABIES, right? I'm pretty sure they don't know the difference. I'm on team clothes too, but I think that's a really silly reasoning.
It also cracks me up that providing toys that keep your kid quiet = bad parenting. So church bores a kid. They cry, you get up and take the kid out. It realizes that crying gets them out of a boring situation. So they start to do it just to get out of the situation. I'd much rather provide a toy to keep them quiet than be up and down for an hour. And I agree that this is an age based thing. <strong>The older they get, they need to realize that this is how you behave. But younger kids? They simply don't have the reasoning ability to realize that yet.</strong>
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
Someone said that about dressing babies? Oh my. I missed that.
And thank you for pointing that last part out.
[QUOTE] I know that I don't have children, so it sounds weird for me to say this, but I think that your opinion will change when you DO have kids.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I'd much rather see this than have a screaming kid, or a toddler who asks questions loudly, or who gets up and walks around during the service. Diapers-only on kids bug me too. Adults need to know how to dress when they go out in public, which includes real clothes and shoes. People should teach their kids how to dress apprpriately from a young age.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
This is the one that made me laugh. I guess if your kid is still wearing a diaper at 3, then it's time to teach them. Before that, I'm not sure they're really going to understand how to dress themselves.
And again, I'm on the please put clothes on your baby before leaving the house. But not for the reason of 'teaching them'
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : Well I could say the same, right? All things with kids are case by case but I still personally hold my opinions as good generic rules.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
That's why I said I felt funny saying it to you when I don't have kids.
Your original judgment is a not so much generic, but more of an idyllic rule. I'm sure that you're going to be a great parent and I don't doubt that you'll make your expectations for your kids clear from the start, but like you said, kids are a case by case basis. And while you can hope that your kids will never need a crayon or small toy during church, it's a possibility that they will.
I was talking about bringing my nephew to church, and I didn't make it clear that it's not a weekly event. It's only sometimes. If it were weekly, I'd probably pack an emergency snack/toy and only give him the crayons regularly.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right.
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
I believe that you and I are sharing a brain.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I believe that you and I are sharing a brain.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
:) I was starting to get offended, but decided it wasn't meant to be offensive. I have to be confident in how I parent and the choices I make for her. So I can't judge someone for thinking something different. As long as a well behaved kid is the end result - does it really matter?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : :) I was starting to get offended, but decided it wasn't meant to be offensive. I have to be confident in how I parent and the choices I make for her. So I can't judge someone for thinking something different. As long as a well behaved kid is the end result - does it really matter?
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
I agree.
My H came home from work yesterday with a story about a voicemail on his office phone from one of the married contractors at work to one of the married managers at work. (Their phone lines apparently get crossed all the time). He said the woman who left the message was with/near her husband when she left it (kept mentioning not being able to talk because he was near) and kept referring to this manager as "boyfriend". Well H recognized the voice and took it to another manager to deal with as they have a non-fraternization policy at work and everyone assumed they were having an affair but no one could prove it. He was so disgusted that he was basically put in the middle of that.
Two months ago they had to fire someone because her and another married guy at work were having an affair and actually fvking in the back office when everyone else was gone.
[QUOTE]I judge a poster who tells me she doesn't go and talk about our board and me but then goes and does it anyway. No worries, I'm done being a mod...I don't get paid to do it and at 40 I'm done with your sht.
Posted by ukyankee[/QUOTE]
woah. And I thought AA was reffering to beauty.
[QUOTE]I judge a poster who tells me she doesn't go and talk about our board and me but then goes and does it anyway. No worries, I'm done being a mod...I don't get paid to do it and at 40 I'm done with your sht.
Posted by ukyankee[/QUOTE]
You don't really seem done
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I respect your "some day parenting style" - however, I guarantee you'd never notice Jocelyn in church because she's that good of a kid. To me, that means I'm doing it right.
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
Youre "some day parenting style" is a titch insulting. You're acting like I sit on a throne and judge parents. I do have nieces and nephews. Their parents raise their children the same way I intend to.
I'm glad you parenting method works. I don't have to agree with it.
[QUOTE]I judge people who don't get their feet done in the summer but INSIST on wearing sandals. No one wants to see your crusty toes. If you can't afford to get them done @ a shop, do them @ home. I also judge any knottie who is always saying that she doesn't have to pay a cent for her wedding. So what???
Posted by MISSCOURTNEY20[/QUOTE]
Thanks for calling me out, Miss Courtney!!! I went and got a mani/pedi during lunch thanks to your judging :) Now my toesies are all pretty and sparkly :)
Also, I am unfamiliar with the knottie that always says she doesn't have to pay for anything? What am I missing?
The thing about parenting is to always get better, how do you know I might not go to church on Sunday and TRY to let her sit without a crayon to see if she could do it? I'm always looking for new creative ideas to parent, and I also alter my parenting to get the best results from Jocelyn.
There are plenty of ways to parent a child correctly, none of which are wrong. Just different.
I hope that you can come to terms with that reality.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : This is the one that made me laugh. I guess if your kid is still wearing a diaper at 3, then it's time to teach them. Before that, I'm not sure they're really going to understand how to dress themselves. And again, I'm on the please put clothes on your baby before leaving the house. But not for the reason of 'teaching them'
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
I didn't mean that they need to learn to dress themselves, at all. That's clearly not what I said. I meant it sets an example, which you need to start with kids at a young age. And no, 6 month old isn't going to learn a lesson, but an 18 month old or 20 month old will learn that you need to get dressed before you go outside. It also sets an example for older siblings - the baby has to get ready so you can be appropriately dressed in public. Like Georgia said, it's part of a civilized society.
Not to mention that toddlers often stick their hands in their diapers if they aren't wearing pants, so I'm not sure why a parent would want that situation to occur...
40/112
[QUOTE]Did I say your some day parenting methods were wrong? Ummmm, NO. Did I say that I started to get insulted, but then decided that it was just a difference of opinion and that I respected it? Ummmmm, YES. Therefore, how would I think that you're on a high horse. It's not your parenting style now, but it will be some day. You're reading way too far into it. I've actually done nothing but respect your opinion but also offer a different view on how I raise my daughter. I am open to seeing your point of view, you however think only your way is correct. The thing about parenting is to always get better, how do you know I might not go to church on Sunday and TRY to let her sit without a crayon to see if she could do it? I'm always looking for new creative ideas to parent, and I also alter my parenting to get the best results from Jocelyn. There are plenty of ways to parent a child correctly, none of which are wrong. Just different.
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]
I just felt you were condescending, that's all. It's the internet, things aren't always written and read the way we mean them. Good to know you didn't mean it like that.
It's an I Judge thread. I'm sure someone on this board who read this will push their 8 year old in a stroller and think I'm an ass for disagreeing. Fine. Someone's feelings isn't going to stop me from disagreeing or judging. You can judge me for judging.
[QUOTE]As much as I would like to say the exact kind of parent I'm going to be, I can't say that I know exactly what kind of parent I'm going to be until I become a parent. I hope that you can come to terms with that reality.
Posted by JessAndTrav[/QUOTE]
I think that's a given.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I Judge : I just felt you were condescending, that's all. It's the internet, things aren't always written and read the way we mean them. Good to know you didn't mean it like that. It's an I Judge thread. I'm sure someone on this board who read this will push their 8 year old in a stroller and think I'm an ass for disagreeing. Fine. Someone's feelings isn't going to stop me from disagreeing or judging. You can judge me for judging.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]
No worries, judge away, it's your right. I wasn't being condescending at all though, promise.
And, the socks & shoes on infants thing? I think it looks ridiculous to put shoes on babies. And most of the time, they kick socks off. So why waste money on socks they're going to loose and shoes they can't walk in anyway? Personally, it looks like you're more concerned with appearances than what is practical, reasonable, and necessary for a baby.
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