unpopular opinions?

mgietler76

"and, for the record, I do; I'm not suited to political office myself, but I am active politically and either volunteer with or donate to those organizations and candidates whose values I support."

This is what I meant, I was certainly not trying to bash you.

heyimbren

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : Seriously? And not just to you, I'm kind of in awe that people are saying "if you don't like it leave." I agree that if you hate where you live, you should leave - but more for your own personal happiness (and the happiness of those who have to listen to you complain) than because it's objectively the right thing to do. And it bugs me to hear people be 100% down on the country they live in, but I don't think that they have some moral obligation to leave. Nowhere is perfect. There are things I hate about living in Chile, there are things I dislike about the US.<strong> Talking about those things sometimes means that someone else will see my point and agree with me, and then that's one more person who's going to avoid doing that in the future and pass on the message.</strong> I don't have to run for office and enact a law; it's often just about trying to get people/society's behaviors to change. Or, frankly, sometimes you recognize that change is unrealistic, but something still bugs you - your only options are really to either get elected or shut up?
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

I strongly believe that act of criticism is part of civic responsibility- however, it bothers me when someone only complains and doesn't try to do anything about it. Criticism is a good thing,

laladypoet

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[QUOTE]Lala -- Saddam was evil, no dobut about it.  But if we let the ends justify the means, how do we ever draw a line?  Do we dispose every dictator?  Do we commit the resources to stopping every genocide?  These are largely open-ended questions.  I'm not even disagreeing with you, really; I don't have answers.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]
I was/am against the war too. and I had a problem with the fact that we went to the "wrong" country. I guess my point is, at least something good came out of it.

georgia_bride09

Celles, I see your point, and you later clarified what I was responding to in the first place. Carry on.



















pie war

laladypoet

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[QUOTE]My unpopular opinion:  I despise PETA with every bone in my body.  How can you claim to be "People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals" when you'd rather euthanize perfectly healthy animals then be bothered advertising & marketing these animals for adoptions?  It makes me sick.  <a href="http://www.petakillsanimals.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.petakillsanimals.com/</a>
Posted by pinkpinot[/QUOTE]
I'm not a fan of PETA either. other than the link you posted, which I haven't looked at yet, I think they hurt their cause with the way they handle issues. like that whale wars bullshiit.
I'm an ASPCA monthly donator though. love them.

laladypoet

also, I hate those "Truth" commercials. and not just cause I smoke.

Celles

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[QUOTE]"and, for the record, I do; I'm not suited to political office myself, but I am active politically and either volunteer with or donate to those organizations and candidates whose values I support." This is what I meant, I was certainly not trying to bash you.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

I don't feel bashed. :)  With the exception of Calypso, I think everyone has expressed themselves and their opinions intelligently and fairly.  I value the opposing viewpoints, especially those that force me to amend my own thinking.  That's what this country -- and any democracy, really -- is SUPPOSED to be about.

mgietler76

Everytime I saw a Truth commercial I either laughed or lit up afterwards

Celles

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I'm an ASPCA monthly donator though. love them.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

The Sarah McLachlan commercial makes me cry every time.

laladypoet

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : The Sarah McLachlan commercial makes me cry every time.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]
I CAN'T TALK ABOUT IT!

mandapanda78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : The Sarah McLachlan commercial makes me cry every time.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

<div>I scramble for the remote every time. I can't watch it. I can't!!</div>

mgietler76

Ditto on the Sarah McLachan, my FI laughs at me when I change it but I've totally caught him doing it!

emilyinchile

I have an unpopular opinion: I don't like my company's new building. Everyone's going into spasms of how new and modern and pretty and blablabla it is, which is all true, but we are missing things like curtains in my office (and today it's raining, but on other days the sun shines off the glass building next to my window and blinds me from 3-5pm), a water cooler (and the tap water tastes gross) and a working thermostat in my office/someone to come fix the broken one, meaning it's a brisk 64 degrees.

georgia_bride09

Oh. The Sarah McLachlan commercial. ::tear::

I hate PETA, but I like pita.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

Just because someone serves in political office doesn't mean they can make every change they see fit. I can't get elected to the county board of supervisors and get cracking on health care reform.

There are probably a lot of things Obama would love to change, but never will, because our government is based on checks and balances and mutual cooperation.

Bubbalub

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : The Sarah McLachlan commercial makes me cry every time.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

I run out of the room. I even volunteer at the Humane Society and work with the dogs and that commercial breaks my heart. I want to hug and kiss and give a home to every animal I see on it.

Chess pie sounds a bit gross to me. Although I love pecan pie I just think that, without the pecans, it's just a pie filled with sweetened lard. *shudder*

laladypoet

here's a funny re: that commercial.
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/update-sarah-mclachlan/1173607/

aprovencher21

I love pie.....almost all forms.

I hate PETA but donate monthly to ASPCA.

I think spanking your child in any way is detrimental to the child.  There are better ways to discipline and parent.

I'm very proud to be an American.

alehayes

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : The Sarah McLachlan commercial makes me cry every time.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Me too!

And I'm halfway on the "I Hate Pie" bandwagon too.  I don't like fruit pie (with the exception of rhubarb), but I like chess pie and chocolate pecan pie and French silk and pies like that.

Unlike Mery, I can't get enough chocolate :)

laladypoet

I have no problems with spankings.

alehayes

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[QUOTE]I have no problems with spankings.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

I always though I wouldn't want to spank my kids.  I didn't think it really did anything for me growing up, and I thought it was dumb.

And then I became a preschool teacher.  And now I think at an early age, some kids NEED spankings.  I have never seen so many spoiled rotten children who walk all over their parents/grandparents because at home they got NO discipline.  It's ridiculous.

If your child bites you every time you come to pick him up, I bet he wouldn't do it if you would have swatted his bottom the first time he did it.

Plus there's research out that says spanking can actually be beneficial between the ages of two and I think seven.  It helps keep children safe by associating certain potentially-harmful behaviors (like playing with the knobs on the stove) with the pain of a spanking, and they learn not to engage in that behavior.

georgia_bride09

I think the effectiveness of spanking depends on the child. I got spanked because sitting in my room by myself wasn't punishment. I'd just read or fall asleep on the bed. My sister, however, thought the world was ENDING if she had to go sit in her room and not play with her toys. Spankings did her no good. So I can't say whether or not I'll spank my kids because it may or may not be an effective punishment for each particular child.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I always though I wouldn't want to spank my kids.  I didn't think it really did anything for me growing up, and I thought it was dumb. And then I became a preschool teacher.  And now I think at an early age, some kids NEED spankings.  I have never seen so many spoiled rotten children who walk all over their parents/grandparents because at home they got NO discipline.  It's ridiculous. If your child bites you every time you come to pick him up, I bet he wouldn't do it if you would have swatted his bottom the first time he did it. Plus there's research out that says spanking can actually be beneficial between the ages of two and I think seven.  It helps keep children safe by associating certain potentially-harmful behaviors (like playing with the knobs on the stove) with the pain of a spanking, and they learn not to engage in that behavior.
Posted by alehayes[/QUOTE]

There are scientific studies that show specifically that spanking preschoolers is detrimental to their brain development.  You don't teach them to learn and instead teach fear.  I'm not saying discipline is wrong at all; however, there are real ways to handle behavioral problems without hitting. 

There are quite  a few recent studies that indicate a few negative effects spanking has on a child's development.  Also, if parents are trying to teach that violence is wrong, along with hitting, biting,etc. why would you use a teaching method that is violent??  Thats nonsensical.

I wasn't hit as a child and neither were my siblings.  If you wouldn't hit your dog to teach it a lesson why would you hit your kid?

laladypoet

where are these studies?

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]where are these studies?
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

Hold on....I'll go find them!!

aprovencher21

Here's one....

Straus, Murray A. and Mallie J. Paschall. Corporal Punishment by Mothers and Development of Children's Cognitive Ability: A Longitudinal Study of Two Nationally Representative Age Cohorts. Journal of Aggression Maltreatment & Trauma, 2009; 18 (5): 459 DOI:

aprovencher21

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1983895,00.html

Spanking makes kids more aggressive

tldh

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : yes, ok, Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. but can anyone say we didn't do a good thing by killing sadaam?
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

That's not the question that should be asked when going to war.  One of my poli sci profs in college was a military advisor for GHW Bush during the first gulf war.  He spelled out for us years ago why we didn't take out Saddam.  The man didn't give a twit about religions which actually stabilized the country.  Without him in power there is a risk of Syria or Iran (depending on Sunni or Shiite control) controlling Iraq's oil fields.  Now that we are leaving, this is still a huge risk. 

laladypoet

thanks I will check it out

aprovencher21

A. Grogan-Kaylor
Corporal Punishment and the Growth Trajectory of
Children's Antisocial Behavior
Child Maltreat, August 1, 2005; 10(3): 283 - 292.