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aragx6 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:94441e38-c52c-462a-914b-9916b6c85efb">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : So why would you want to devestate someone else by shooting their pet? I think someone has already said this, but just because something is legal doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. The quote Meg found from that thread is all I've seen from the thread in question but it made me sick reading it.
Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

I'm NOT sticking up for her, but to be fair she obviously feels the same way as you. Which is why she hasn't shot the dog.

baystateapple · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:972c0a6f-d521-4712-91aa-9f51e56027ce">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : *sigh* One day <strong>everyone</strong> will stop being so fucking concerned with how other people parent their children all the goddamn time and realize that just because you would do something doesn't mean that it's the only right way to do it.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]
I have friends in England and Australia who go through the exact same shiiit. Apparently mothers everywhere are douchecanoes to each other about their parenting skills.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:4ea50bc5-85c4-4eaa-93c4-750bdfa3d70b">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : The dog mauled you and you still haven't contacted the authorities?! Screw your landlord; why are you continuing to stay there? If this golden retriever has MAULED you, it should be euthanized because human aggression is never okay. Chasing cats? Chasing horses? Chewing on things. Pooping on the walk. It's a DOG. Those are all NORMAL DOG THINGS. And you said in the other thread that you offered to have a trainer work a SHOCK COLLAR to train him not to chase horses; I would turn you down too. Do you know how easy it is to damage a dog with e-collar training? Hunting dogs that work on e-collars need a VERY specific temperament and it requires a LOT of time and work to condition a dog to WEARING the collar, let alone trained to obey commands or understand concepts wearing one.
Posted by KellyBrian2013[/QUOTE]

He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times.

I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.

Habs2Hart · July 2012

Steffi - Anyone who sells a horse or who makes a bit of money teaching up downers can be a "pro", it doesn't really make them that. It's just what the USEF (or whatever governing body) has to keep the amateur rules apart. USEF is not legally binding and I believe the actual government would not consider it your profession and that is seperate that people who make their living off their livestock.

Megbo2012 · July 2012

If the dog actually mauled you that would have been in your original list of offenses, not completely forgotten. Give us a little credit.

aragx6 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:62401792-1de7-42da-96c5-7e96dc83704a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times. I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Yeah that's not a mauling. That's an excitable poorly trained dog. Big difference.

calixtine · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:7a7ede39-311f-42aa-b840-85d9cda71287">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I want to know why bear mace exists. I have watched 4 hours straight of mountain men and none of those motherfuckers have bear mace. They have motherfucking shotguns.
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

This made me snort. For serious, I'm pretty sure macing a bear just pisses it off more.

baystateapple · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:62401792-1de7-42da-96c5-7e96dc83704a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times. I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]
Knocking you down and jumping on you isn't the same as mauling. Mauling involves teeth, broken skin, and a mandatory call to the authorities.

The dog sounds unruly and its owners really should police it, get it some training, etc. But bear mace isn't going to fix it. If the dog isn't being trained properly, it's not going to realize it did something wrong. It's only going to know that it's in pain.

specialk84 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:62401792-1de7-42da-96c5-7e96dc83704a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times. I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>How about you just call the cops, and they can tell you whether it's a civil matter? I cannot understand why you don't do that.</div>

midgetthemighty · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:4c47b3b8-e713-45a5-82a9-3b068ac99196">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm NOT sticking up for her, but to be fair she obviously feels the same way as you. Which is why she hasn't shot the dog.
Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]

True.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:dbf9b89f-7602-4b53-b2aa-1623ba1e87b8">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'd smoked lots of pot at that point, at varying strengths. Good pot, bad pot, all pot. I wasn't very discriminatory about what kind of pot I smoked. I had no idea this shiitt was laced before I smoked it. Granted, I didn't know the guy (someone else did), so that should've been my first clue not to smoke it, but like I said, no one had a normal reaction to it, and we all were pretty heavy pot smokers at the time.
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]
I suppose it could happen, I've just never heard of it. For the most part drug dealers don't want to waste their money adding things to weed.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:94441e38-c52c-462a-914b-9916b6c85efb">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : So why would you want to devestate someone else by shooting their pet? I think someone has already said this, but just because something is legal doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. The quote Meg found from that thread is all I've seen from the thread in question but it made me sick reading it.
Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

I haven't shot the dog or killed it.

I just want the damn thing to stay the hell away from me, my animals, and my yard. That's it.

There are leash laws. My neighbors are law breaking lazy louses. I don't like their dog. I don't want to interact with their loose dog.

When I pay for the vet to come out because my horse needs his eye checked I don't want to have to deal with their stupid dog jumping on me, the vet, and chasing the horse while we're trying to work on him.

But, I haven't and won't kill him.

specialk84 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:ca8e7010-d75b-4c45-8fb1-965db401ecc1">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I haven't shot the dog or killed it. I just want the damn thing to stay the hell away from me, my animals, and my yard. That's it. <strong>There are leash laws.</strong> My neighbors are law breaking lazy louses. I don't like their dog. I don't want to interact with their loose dog. When I pay for the vet to come out because my horse needs his eye checked I don't want to have to deal with their stupid dog jumping on me, the vet, and chasing the horse while we're trying to work on him. But, I haven't and won't kill him.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>Do you know who enforces laws? Police officers. </div><div>
</div><div>Are they psychic in your county? How are they supposed to know the owners are breaking the law if no one tells them?</div>

aragx6 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:c014f4f2-3445-4b9f-b036-ea85d0e5cd51">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I suppose it could happen, I've just never heard of it. For the most part drug dealers don't want to waste their money adding things to weed.
Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]

This is sort of my thinking on the matter.

Anyway, Holly I'm not saying I don't believe you because crazier things have happened. I just think it's one of those things people throw around that doesn't, for most people, have any basis in reality. I'm glad there was nothing serious in it.

Actually, I kind of wonder <em>how</em> you lace it with something. Like I said X or coke or something would be easy, but this is like a plant -- I feel like ti would be hard to hide extras.

calixtine · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:62401792-1de7-42da-96c5-7e96dc83704a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times. I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

A mauling is what the miami zombie dude did to that homeless guy. What you experienced is being knocked down by an overly excited dog. You still have your face so that is not a mauling.

kroot87 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:cf1ce6ba-4b9b-4c24-9f63-0f98f0961d99">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : How about you just call the cops, and they can tell you whether it's a civil matter? I cannot understand why you don't do that.
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

This. There are so, so many options available to you. Even if the cops couldn't help you, they could put you in touch with animal control and they could provide you with some HUMANE options to keep the dog off your property. There is NO FVCKING EXCUSE for what you did. You are a vile human being.

For reals.

Lizzieyounce · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:93d9ccad-e624-4e02-b683-90c432960475">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yeah that's not a mauling. That's an excitable poorly trained dog. Big difference.
Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]

Yeah, mauling is having chunks of flesh bitten off, or your face demolished (like that lady who was attacked by that chimp), not getting tackled and licked by a poorly trained dog.

You're really reaching, steffiii.

KellyBrian2013 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:62401792-1de7-42da-96c5-7e96dc83704a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : He knocked me down and jumped all over me. Many times. I know they're normal dog behaviors, and I don't have, nor like, dogs. Period. My friend's dogs and my family's dogs are cute, they're nice. I have dog treats for my friend's dogs. But, I just don't like them.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

OMG. You need to learn what "mauling" is. When you have puncture wounds, are missing flesh, or dead - THAT'S a mauling.

What you described is an exuberant dog with not enough training on how to politely greet people... knocking you down is just a result of size. My friend's great dane knocks me down to say hello because he's overly friendly and doesn't realize his size (and that I'm short). Knocking down =/= mauling.

ArynBaker · July 2012

Steffi, I thought you have a lot of work to do. Why don't you go be productive instead of repeating yourself over and over. You're not going to change anyone's mind here.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:017a42c8-5a74-46b1-ac7f-d0ce1f3e56ce">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Do you know who enforces laws? Police officers. Are they psychic in your county? How are they supposed to know the owners are breaking the law if no one tells them?
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

I would assume that my attorney and the paralegal would be able to advise me about the situation better than a board of internet people.

Megbo2012 · July 2012

Steffi why haven't you thought to build a better fence or protect them in some other way? Clearly the dog is going to get out and you aren't doing anything to prevent him from getting at your animals except illegally macing him.

Rach I totally agree, H is a huge golden lover and he would be nothing short of livid if some b**tch maced our dog.

Rosie109 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:ca8e7010-d75b-4c45-8fb1-965db401ecc1">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I haven't shot the dog or killed it. <strong>I just want the damn thing to stay the hell away from me, my animals, and my yard</strong>. That's it. There are leash laws. My neighbors are law breaking lazy louses. I don't like their dog. I don't want to interact with their loose dog. When I pay for the vet to come out because my horse needs his eye checked I don't want to have to deal with their stupid dog jumping on me, the vet, and chasing the horse while we're trying to work on him. But, I haven't and won't kill him.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Aw no thats not it. You said before that you fantasized about killing it. You hoped a car would hit it. Thats not just wanting it to leave you alone, thats wishing death on the animal. An animal who doesn't have our thought process. You seriously are a head case.

[Deleted User] · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:8d6499b0-4862-40c7-8878-fa2e9ab3f55f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Anyway, Holly I'm not saying I don't believe you because crazier things have happened. I just think it's one of those things people throw around that doesn't, for most people, have any basis in reality. I'm glad there was nothing serious in it.
Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]
Ditto all this.

I guess you could add powder to it and it could blend in with the crystals. Or maybe you could soak it in something.

baystateapple · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:867628cd-5f06-48fd-a619-e2a0328b8248">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I would assume that my attorney and the paralegal would be able to advise me about the situation better than a board of internet people.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]
Uh, then why bring it up online?

You do realize that none of this would have happened if you had, oh, kept it to yourself? You KNOW TK is full of animal lovers. Even if you don't like dogs, many, many of us do. Did you really think that your macing a dog with bear mace would have been laughed off or taken sympathetically?

Beachy730 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:641d8006-df37-48dd-9ebc-2eb3d3cc6e4d">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I stand by my view that kids or babies should not be out at social type events at midnight. I think it's selfish of the parent to put their needs of just HAVING to socialize at that hour over the baby. If parents chose to fly or drive overnight so that the child would sleep most of the time instead of during the day, I would have no problem with that.
Posted by Beaniebeach[/QUOTE]

<div>I agree with all of this. </div><div>
</div><div>Babies in toddlers in non-kid movies has always been a pet peeve of mine. If I'm paying that much money to see a movie in a theater I want to be able to enjoy it. Not hear kids crying and talking. And especially at a loud ass action movie where it's likely to scare and wake up a sleeping baby, I absolutely think they don't belong. You want to fucking see it so bad, pay for a babysitter, wait for a more convenient time to see it when you can get a sitter, or go during the morning or day when it's less busy. </div><div>
</div><div>Yes it's a fucking tragedy what happened, and nobody is taking away from that. Completely aside from the tragedy I don't think kids belong in a movie theater. Clearly parents make their own decisions, and that is why we generally make the decision not to go to the theater. </div>

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:100db5df-7f27-4ad8-9eba-942fa6aef35c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Uh, then why bring it up online? You do realize that none of this would have happened if you had, oh, kept it to yourself? You KNOW TK is full of animal lovers. Even if you don't like dogs, many, many of us do. Did you really think that your macing a dog with bear mace would have been laughed off or taken sympathetically?
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

No, I'm just really pissed over the dog. It's a pretty major issue in my little world right now.

Megbo2012 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:100db5df-7f27-4ad8-9eba-942fa6aef35c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Uh, then why bring it up online? You do realize that none of this would have happened if you had, oh, kept it to yourself? You KNOW TK is full of animal lovers. Even if you don't like dogs, many, many of us do. <strong> Did you really think that your macing a dog with bear mace would have been laughed off or taken sympathetically?</strong>
Posted by baystateapple[/QUOTE]

<div>The way she wrote it it made me imagine her giggling while typing. </div><div>
</div><div>Steffi I'm waiting for you to address the fence issue I brought up. Or are you just writing another horribly thought out, asinine, contradicting novel?</div>

kroot87 · July 2012

Hangonafuckingsecond. You're consulting a goddamn motherfucking attorney about the dog but you won't contact the POLICE? Your attorney probably does think you're a freaking wackjob. Wtf, lady. The police enforce the laws. If there's a goddamn leash law in your county, they have the power to enforce it regardless of what your landlord says.

Lizzieyounce · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:1ddd11cc-19e3-4d8a-82a6-cab2a40e00ff">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Isn't there some saying about fences and neighbors? Your landlord is friends with the neighbors right? So tell the LL that he needs to chickenwire the fence to keep the dogs out, or that you are going to complain about the neighbors' dog. Then the LL and neighbor can work out whether to improve the fence or keep the dog in. In the meanwhile, try using an airhorn on the dog instead of fucking bear mace.
Posted by Liatris2010[/QUOTE]

Yep. Or here's a novel idea, Stefiii...BOARD THE HORSE ELSEWHERE.

Rosie109 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:2a62be3b-71d9-447a-a0dc-284a931607e0">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I doubt the owners know. They might notice the dog seems to be in pain, but if it's outside for awhile afterward, maybe not even that. I want to bear mace Steffi. Seriously. At least she has tear ducts that would help rinse her eyes from the terrible pain. I'm getting mad over that thread all over again.
Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]

She is an utter and complete dimwit.

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