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Sorry birthers...
Our president released his birth certificate today to shut you up:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
(Not a supporter by the way, but I'm glad he released it so people can move on to complaining about something else)
http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf
(Not a supporter by the way, but I'm glad he released it so people can move on to complaining about something else)
Married in Vegas - June 2011
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Re: Sorry birthers...
I'm sure now someone is going to say it's a fake and blah blah blah. It's ridiculous.
[QUOTE]I work with a woman who is convinced Obama isn't a citizen. I'm going to print this for her (but it won't do any good).
Posted by LesPaul[/QUOTE]
Those are the kind of people that don't want to believe, so no matter what you do, it's not real.
[QUOTE]I work with a woman who is convinced Obama isn't a citizen. I'm going to print this for her (but it won't do any good).
Posted by LesPaul[/QUOTE]
I just don't understand this. I really and truly don't.
Wow...this whole thing is simply ridiculous.
[QUOTE]can i ask why it matters where he is from? ive never understood that...
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]
You have to be a naturally born citizen to be President.
Edit - forgot some words...oops
[QUOTE]can i ask why it matters where he is from? ive never understood that...
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]
Their claim is that he wasn't born on US soil which would make him ineligible to be president.
Married in Vegas - June 2011
And even though this was released, I'm sure birthers will still find something to bitch about, probably that the document is fake or something equally stupid.
Ignorant redneck guy who works for H is like that. He is one of the most racist, stupid people I've ever met. He said once that Obama is a terrorist because his middle name is Hussein. For no other reason than that, and no amount of arguing that it's just a middle name that he didn't choose could convince him otherwise. So, some people choose to be that way regardless of the proof.
[QUOTE]See, my issue is, "natural born" was never relly defined by the writers of the Constitution. Many believe that it means you simply must be born a citizen, not later made one. Therefore, since his mother WAS a citizen of the U.S., so was he, no matter where he was born, he still should have been eligible. Some lawmakers disagree, but a citizen is a citizen.
Posted by Athsea[/QUOTE]
Good point. Do both parents have to be citizens for this to be true? Not that it matters because he is a naturally born citizen, I'm just curious in general.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sorry birthers... : Good point. Do both parents have to be citizens for this to be true? Not that it matters because he is a naturally born citizen, I'm just curious in general.
Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]
As far as I know, if you are norn in the US, you are a US citizen. This is where all the uproar about "anchor babies" comes from.
[QUOTE]See, my issue is, "natural born" was never relly defined by the writers of the Constitution. Many believe that it means you simply must be born a citizen, not later made one. Therefore, since his mother WAS a citizen of the U.S., so was he, no matter where he was born, he still should have been eligible. Some lawmakers disagree, but a citizen is a citizen.
Posted by Athsea[/QUOTE]
This is true. And it is very unlikely that this part of the Constitution will ever be tested by the courts because they are not supposed to be involved in political decisions, and deciding whether or not an individual is eligible to be president is nothing if not political.
generic blog link.
Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
In the case of United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a person becomes a citizen of the United States at the time of birth, by virtue of the first clause of the 14th Amendment, if that person is:
The Supreme Court has never explicitly ruled on whether children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents are entitled to birthright citizenship via the 14th Amendment,[5] although it has generally been assumed that they are.[6] A birth certificate (a.k.a Certificate of Live Birth for children born in certain states) issued by a U.S. state or territorial government is evidence of citizenship, and is usually accepted as proof of citizenship.
[QUOTE]hahahaha imagine if trump did become president haaahahahahah. thatd be hilarious, i bet theyd make a reality tv show out of it.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]
This would be terrible. TERRIBLE.
generic blog link.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sorry birthers... : I will laugh and laugh and laugh if it happens. And then I will start offering people smuggling services for Americans wishing to <strong>escape the threat of the combover</strong>.
Posted by rhonwynv[/QUOTE]
This is all that has run through my head. I cant look at that for 4 years, I refuse to watch his show! You'd think with all that money a stylist would say "look we need to chop that crap off"!
Gah.
[QUOTE]Good. I'm so sick of hearing about that. Now some will call it a conspiracy and say it's fake or something.
Posted by Y I Oughta[/QUOTE]
Yep, already got an email from my admin. Ugh.
Trump getting elected wouldn't be soooo bad. People over-estimate the amount of power the US President has. With the system of checks and balances, I still feel that Congress holds most of the power. And I don't care for Trump personally, but politically I think he would be quite capable as long as he didn't alienate all of our foreign allies.
[QUOTE]I'm beginning to become convinced that Donald Trump was a closet racist until recently when he's start spewing his crazy talk.
Posted by Birdie1483[/QUOTE]
Why do people think anyone who does not like Obama is a racist?
The guy's a first class idiot and full on attention whore who loves nothing more than to listen to the sound of his own voice.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Sorry birthers... : Why do people think anyone who does not like Obama is a racist?
Posted by crose29[/QUOTE]
It's not just that. He did an interview the other night and said some things (that I unfortunately can't remember now) that supported my opinion on this.
[QUOTE]If Donald Trump becomes President, I will eat my own hand. The guy's a first class idiot and full on attention whore who loves nothing more than to listen to the sound of his own voice.
Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]
I dont know how he could possible win. That would be surreal.