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S/O Debate: Drugs
Do we handle drug crimes correctly? Would you decriminalize certain drugs? What would be a better deterrant? Do you judge people with a history of drug use?
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Re: S/O Debate: Drugs
I went to court when I was 20 over a misdemeanor drunk in public ticket (Mardi Gras in New Orleans) and everyone (almost) that saw the judge ahead of me was male, African American, and there for simple possession of marijuana. I thought it was the biggest waste of taxpayer money I'd ever seen. I really think resources can be directed at something much more worthwhile than arresting every person who smokes weed.
EDIT: I don't judge people with a history of drug abuse. I think there's way too much that goes into chemical dependancy for me to pass judgment on a person for that.
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no we don't handle drugs correctly. i'm on the fence on decriminializing certain drugs, and i am rarely on the fence about anything. i do not judge people with a drug history. often, they make the best substance abuse counselors.
[QUOTE]Do we handle drug crimes correctly? <strong>no</strong>
Would you decriminalize certain drugs? <strong>yes.</strong>
What would be a better deterrant? <strong>not sure. </strong>
Do you judge people with a history of drug use? <strong>not generally. I find everyone has vices in way or another. I do not find someone doing blow a few times worse than someone who gets drunk all the time.
Now, just like drinking, when it starts to consume your life, then I judge you. But not simply because you've done drugs at some point in your life
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Edit: I try not to judge people base din their pasts in general, but no I don't really care if someone I know has gottne into trouble for drugs.
Just call me "Brothel"
And betrothed, I'm disgusted with most of the comments that you have posted. I don't think I've ever read such judgmental comments in my life. I'm so lucky that the girls I speak to on theknot are nothing like you...I would've never come on here for ADVICE if I would've encountered a big a bitch as you. I genuinely feel awful for your children or your future children, and I think it would be irresponsible of YOU not to invest in their future therapy sessions starting now. Because trust me when I tell you honey, they're gonna need it. ~jcaruncho2010
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I don't judge people with a history of drug use. There are so many other factors involved.
I think we do a crappy job. I think if we decriminalized pot, it would free up resources to focus on more dangerous drugs. I also think we don't have harsh enough penalties for repeat offenders & dealers. I'd really like more work on prevention, instead of just seizing drugs.
And yep, I judge drug users. If pot were legal, I wouldn't judge that group, but as it's not - I do. I just don't see the need to do something that isn't legal. I also judge people who date/hand out with hardcore drug users. I just dont get it.
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I never (well, I like to say never, rarely is more honest) judge for drug abuse. there is absolutely a chemical dependency that is involved, and the body can go through some serious harm if a person quits cold turkey (valium is a commonly prescribed drug for people going through withdrawal). I've seen the effects of someone coming down from benzodiazepines (valium, xanax and the like, very addictive) and it was NOT PRETTY. I don't blame that person one bit for his addiction, even though he tried to punch me and kick me as I was helping tie him to the bed for his own safety. and as for starting drug abuse, peer pressure is very hard to back away from (all of us have gone through it, we know), and sometimes, the drug abuse is insidious (oh, just one more drink tonight, just one more pill...). then there comes the psychological dependency, which is often harder than the physiological. how many here have tried multiple times to quit tobacco? my mom has (and succeeded). my dad has (and failed). my FI has (and failed).
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I'm not as educated on harder drugs, so I don't know what I think about that...I'd be interested to see how other country's usage & drug-trade-related crime rates are doing...haven't a couple of places decriminalized harder drugs?
Personally, I don't think I'd use much marijuana in the future. I agree it's less dangerous than alcohol and nicotine, but it still interfered with my life to a limited extent. But whatever, that's not a good reason for making it illegal. TV and junk food are bad for you too, and those are legal.
Do I judge someone from a drug past, not necessarily. Situations are different. I was a 3 to 4 blunt a day person. You'd never, EVER catch me with it now, but before I had lil stack you could have classified me as a pot head. I judge parents who use drugs. I think it sends a horrible message. I should know, I grew up with two parents who smoked marijauna........I was even once told they'd prefer me to smoke weed then to smoke cigarrettes if I felt the need to smoke.
And re: judging - I judge active users. Not so much people who did in the past and no longer do.
Dresses may be easier to take in than let out, but guest lists are not. -- kate51485
[QUOTE]JK, there are a lot of places where any pot is still a crime. Personally, I think we waste a lot of helicopter fuel flying around looking for pot growing in KY. I either think pot should be legal or tobacco should be illeagle. I don't understand treating them differently. At least if it were legal it could be regulated and taxed to fund drug interdiction work against other drugs. And re: judging - I judge active users. Not so much people who did in the past and no longer do.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]
Right, I realize that. Sorry, I guess I didn't really complete my question. My specific question was do you mean decriminalize in the sense that MN has, or legalize completely?
Whatever you hatters be hattin. -Tay Prince
I don't smoke pot, but I think it should be legalized. I think there needs to be much heavier restrictions on prescription drugs such as oxycontin. My best friend is a pharmacist and has told me so many horror stories about people coming in with fake scrips or pharmacies being robbed just to get the drug.
[QUOTE]I would never judge anyone with a bad past or who has beaten a drug addiction because I was there once. I would judge an adult that does drugs as lifestyle choice and has no desire to change that. I don't smoke pot, but I think it should be legalized.
I think there needs to be much heavier restrictions on prescription drugs such as oxycontin. My best friend is a pharmacist and has told me so many horror stories about people coming in with fake scrips or pharmacies being robbed just to get the drug.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
It agree with that. My DH has a cousin who is married to a woman who is addicted to oxycontin. She is so bad just a few days ago she swallowed some jewerly and went to the ER to get some pain medication. She as been at every ER on Long Island in the last few months to get more. She is so bad she stole money and gift cards from MIL purse xmas day. She is a real winner and I do judge her.
People who has the proirities staight, yet will do drugs occasionally, I okay with.
Lauren, that's your thing. Oddly, since I don't know you in person, I don't really judge you. However, I judge one of my BMs who smokes occasionally. That "not in person" thing does NOT extend to anonymous use of harder drugs - I do still judge that. I guess it's because I would be ok with pot being legal?
Salt, there are pharmacies here that won't carry certain drugs, because of the risk of being robbed. (But, that's not just KY - I saw that posted at the Walgreen's in greater Boston when we were there for Thanksgiving.)
Dresses may be easier to take in than let out, but guest lists are not. -- kate51485
Whatever you hatters be hattin. -Tay Prince
I definitely think pot, at least, should be legal. Once upon a time I occassionally did a few drugs, but I'm really, really not into that anymore. I only judge people who use them in certain ways, like my ex-friend who had to smoke up every hour to get through her day, at work, school, wherever. In that case, I think you really need to stop. But it's the same as relying on cigarettes to get through the day, and probably just as harmful. Your choice, but I judge you. Moreso for pot, maybe, since it's "supposedly" non-addictive, though I don't really buy that.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O Debate: Drugs : It agree with that. My DH has a cousin who is married to a woman who is addicted to oxycontin. She is so bad just a few days ago she swallowed some jewerly and went to the ER to get some pain medication. She as been at every ER on Long Island in the last few months to get more. She is so bad she stole money and gift cards from MIL purse xmas day. She is a real winner and I do judge her. People who has the proirities staight, yet will do drugs occasionally, I okay with.
Posted by lyndausvi[/QUOTE]
I know people like this and I do judge them. Do what you want in your own home, and on your own time, but if you start hurting other people, I start judging you.
Just call me "Brothel"
And betrothed, I'm disgusted with most of the comments that you have posted. I don't think I've ever read such judgmental comments in my life. I'm so lucky that the girls I speak to on theknot are nothing like you...I would've never come on here for ADVICE if I would've encountered a big a bitch as you. I genuinely feel awful for your children or your future children, and I think it would be irresponsible of YOU not to invest in their future therapy sessions starting now. Because trust me when I tell you honey, they're gonna need it. ~jcaruncho2010
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If you put that much effort into stealing and making money why don't you put that effort into working hard at a REAL JOB? Urgh, people bother me.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: S/O Debate: Drugs : I know people like this and I do judge them. Do what you want in your own home, and on your own time, but if you start hurting other people, I start judging you.
Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]
Ditto. At least we live in St Thomas and do not have to deal with it. My MIL was about to called the cops on her butt. She does not put that crap. The cousin gave the money back. But he and his wife are no longer welcome in her home (or his sister's home for that matter)
ETA: They're also probably going by the wholesale price value, Vicodin is actually pretty cheap for pharmacies to buy, especially the generics.
Whatever you hatters be hattin. -Tay Prince