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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I have never ever heard of someone getting violent after smoking pot....like ever!
    Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

    I have, but it wasn't out of character for them.  It was their own personality, not the pot.
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    [QUOTE]OMG ANNA! YOU ARE INSANELY AWESOME AT THIS! TY!!
    Posted by NatesGirl16[/QUOTE]
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I absolutely do know that one drink of alcohol can impair an individual. I'm LEAD trained by the ABC (Alcholic Beverage Control). In California, it's required by law that if you work in an establishment that sells alcohol, either on-site (bar/restaurant) or off-site (7-11/grocery store), you have to be certified.
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, to work in a bar, restaurant (that serves alcohol) and liquor store we have to have Smart Serve certification. I have to have my card on me at all times when I'm working and it can be requested, if I don't have it I can get fined. We're also supposed to guess people's weight and base how many drinks they can have after their weight.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : *applause* I also think it's obnoxious to assume all prostitutes are some sad down trodden women forced into a life style because of circumstance (or strippers for that matter) and to pity them. That's simply not the case all the time. Some of these women are very much in control and empowered. They're comfortable using their bodies for income and shouldn't be judged for it. It's just like the teaching your kids to swim analogy Donna Martin used when trying to get the school board to allow condoms to be available at school. It's going to happen anyway, so why not make it safe? "If you build a pool, and you know your kids are going to swim, you can build all the fences you want. But if you know they’re going to jump in the pool, don’t you think you should teach your kids how to swim?" - Oh how I love you Donna Martin.  
    Posted by kcullen37[/QUOTE]

    I wasn't assuming that ALL of them are abused but I would think it's wrong to assume that most aren't. A great deal of people in that lifestyle do happen to have been abused, not all, but many.

    I don't see this is like giving condoms to kids which I have no problem with. People will always break the law but it isn't a good excuse for removing the law.
  • 90% of cocaine users used marijuana before trying cocaine

    And more than 95% of heroin users are said to have used pot first.

    Sure that doesnt mean that all pot smoker will go on to other  drugs, but it does suggest that those who do go on to other drugs did in fact start with pot.  i dont think those statistics should be dismissed.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yeah, to work in a bar, restaurant (that serves alcohol) and liquor store we have to have Smart Serve certification. I have to have my card on me at all times when I'm working and it can be requested, if I don't have it I can get fined. <strong>We're also supposed to guess people's weight and base how many drinks they can have after their weight.</strong>
    Posted by avsfan33[/QUOTE]


    Seriously? What kind of a bar do you work in?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I bought a pair yesterday...well they're really more like jeggings.  But they came with the black leggings I was buying - it was a 2 pack - so it's really not my fault.  And my six year old niece says they look fabulous on me.  LOL who am I to argue, the kid's got style ;) Edited -for spelling
    Posted by sherrbearr22[/QUOTE]

    I am jealous! But maybe not so much if they fit like jeggings. Are they tight?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yeah, to work in a bar, restaurant (that serves alcohol) and liquor store we have to have Smart Serve certification. I have to have my card on me at all times when I'm working and it can be requested, if I don't have it I can get fined. We're also supposed to guess people's weight and base how many drinks they can have after their weight.
    Posted by avsfan33[/QUOTE]

    Yup.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I'm fairly certain that there are a lot of men doing this anyway, regardless of whether they are picking up a hooker or going on a date.
    Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

    Yes, but that doesn't mean society has to lower it's standards to meet those men. Society should treat men and women as equals and suggesting this is a good and fine practice sends the wrong message to people.

    Maybe I'm just a lot older than people here which would account for the different opinion. :)
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    [QUOTE]90% of cocaine users used marijuana before trying cocaine And more than 95% of heroin users are said to have used pot first. Sure that doesnt mean that all pot smoker will go on to other  drugs, but it does suggest that those who do go on to other drugs did in fact start with pot.  i dont think those statistics should be dismissed.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]


    I dont think they should be dismissed, but dont you think pot is probably the first drug that most people who try drugs start with?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I haven't either, but I am guessing it could happen especially if it was laced). That being said, I have seen a ton of people who get violent after drinking. I think the same response could happen with alcohol, and is more likelyto happen with booze than pot.
    Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]

    100% agreed!!!

    I would rather see someone smoke a joint than get shiit-faced drunk and turn into a raging a-hole. 

    You smoke a joint and get all mellowed and buzzed out....and if you smoke a lot of it, the effects are intensified.

    You have a few glasses of alcohol and you get buzzed out too....if you keep drinking, you now become wasted and the more you drink the nastier of a person you can become. 

     

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    [QUOTE]90% of cocaine users used marijuana before trying cocaine And more than 95% of heroin users are said to have used pot first. Sure that doesnt mean that all pot smoker will go on to other  drugs, but it does suggest that those who do go on to other drugs did in fact start with pot.  i dont think those statistics should be dismissed.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Blue, are there similar statistics on how many people used alcohol before moving on to coke or heroin?  I would be surprised if there wasn't an equally strong correlation between alcohol and coke/heroine as marijuana and coke/heroine.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yes, but that doesn't mean society has to lower it's standards to meet those men. Society should treat men and women as equals and suggesting this is a good and fine practice sends the wrong message to people. Maybe I'm just a lot older than people here which would account for the different opinion. :)
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

    1) There are male prostitutes.

    2) No one is saying prostitution is a good and fine practice. I certainly wouldn't do it, regardless of any history of abuse I may have. However, I think that legalizing it would protect those people who chose to do it.

    2) I don't see what age has to do with any opinion stated in this thread.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : People do this all the time with anyone. Even for dating, if a guy is attracted to blondes with long legs and green eyes, then he's probably not going to ask a girl out on a date if she's short, brunette and has brown eyes. ETA: Mara beat me to it.  : )
    Posted by LessThanZero[/QUOTE]

    Again, yes they do but I don't think the governent should send the message to kids everywhere that it's ok to do so. I just can't agree. I am familiar with all the reasons people believe in it and I knew I wouldn't be popular.

    I stick with my opinion but I respect all of you too.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Im sorry, but that sentence really fvucking irked me and I would like you to explain what you meant there.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Oh god, I just saw what you saw.  That would have irked me, too.  

    I didn't mean it in a demeaning way towards your friends by any means.  I just meant we've obviously had different experiences with pot and how the people around us respond to it.  

    This did make me think of a question, though:  Do you notice any difference in the drug use/productivity between people you know from work and people you know through H, school or anywhere outside of work?  I only ask because working in restaraunts/bars for over 10 years, I've seen a lot of people that will smoke, snort or drink whatever they can get their hands on after a shift.  When I talk about my experiences, I'm more talking about the close friends I have, because I really can't speak to where the true drug addicts I have known started.  Well, I can for a few...but not all. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Seriously? What kind of a bar do you work in?
    Posted by crose29[/QUOTE]

    It's Ontario law.  You have to recognize any sign of impairment and count how many drinks each customer drank and prevent them from leaving the establishment drunk.

    Seriously, Ontario sucks for working in a bar or owning one.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yes, but that doesn't mean society has to lower it's standards to meet those men. Society should treat men and women as equals and suggesting this is a good and fine practice sends the wrong message to people. Maybe I'm just a lot older than people here which would account for the different opinion. :)
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]
    Actually, its an evolutionary practice. In order to create the fittest offspring that will survive, humans and animals often choose their mates based on physical characteristics that indicate hearty stock and fertility. Passing a law that says you have to love someone for who they are before you have sex with them is actually going agains evolution and can potentially lead to a society full of physically weak people who have little chance of survival. I'm not saying its right that the chick with the biggest boobs gets the most guys, but their instincts are telling them subconciously that she can provide better for their kids...
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I dont think they should be dismissed, but dont you think pot is probably the first drug that most people who try drugs start with?
    Posted by crose29[/QUOTE]

    Yes, which was my whole point and my reasoning behind not making it legal.
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    [QUOTE]90% of cocaine users used marijuana before trying cocaine And more than 95% of heroin users are said to have used pot first. Sure that doesnt mean that all pot smoker will go on to other  drugs, but it does suggest that those who do go on to other drugs did in fact start with pot.  i dont think those statistics should be dismissed.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I don't think those statistic should be dismissed either but that doesn't account for the fact that there are some people who will beceome addicts and others who won't. The fact that marijuana is probably one of the easiests and cheapest drugs to get, while also being less harmful (then say, meth) and not clinically addictive, it makes sense that that would be the first thing most people would try.

    But I still don't buy that marijuana is a "gateway" drug and it leads some people into doing harder drugs. People who are prone to being addicts are going to be addicts whether marijuana exists or not.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) <strong>Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car.</strong>    I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

    Blsuh, I think a lot of men do that anyway.  At least if they're paying for it, it's expected.

    Also, I'm not saying men can't be prositiutes.  If I'm going to pay for sex, he had better damn well look like Channing Tatum.

    (I do get what you're saying.  I just don't see it that way.)
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yes, but that doesn't mean society has to lower it's standards to meet those men. <strong>Society should treat men and women as equals and suggesting this is a good and fine practice sends the wrong message to people. </strong>Maybe I'm just a lot older than people here which would account for the different opinion. :)
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]
    This is all good and dandy, but get real. It's not going to happen as long as we live in a society that places a high value on looks and give unfettered support to magazines like Vogue, Cosmo, GQ and designers like Bebe, Versace, and whoever else uses models that are 6' and 90lbs.

    And it's not just men that do that - women are just as guilty.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Blue, are there similar statistics on how many people used alcohol before moving on to coke or heroin?  I would be surprised if there wasn't an equally strong correlation between alcohol and coke/heroine as marijuana and coke/heroine.
    Posted by TheCranberry[/QUOTE]

    Im sure there are.  It would make sense.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : 100% agreed!!! I would rather see someone smoke a joint than get shiit-faced drunk and turn into a raging a-hole.  You smoke a joint and get all mellowed and buzzed out....and if you smoke a lot of it, the effects are intensified. You have a few glasses of alcohol and you get buzzed out too....if you keep drinking, you now become wasted and the more you drink the nastier of a person you can become. 
    Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

    People react differently to everything. Just because I become a sad weepy drunk doesn't mean FI will. For me, the reaction I have to drinking depends on WHAT I'm drinking.

    Also, any drugs and alcohol are seen as "bad" to your body. It's an intruder, which is why people have the reactions they do.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Blue, are there similar statistics on how many people used alcohol before moving on to coke or heroin?  I would be surprised if there wasn't an equally strong correlation between alcohol and coke/heroine as marijuana and coke/heroine.
    Posted by TheCranberry[/QUOTE]

    Exactly. Those people tend to move on to harder drugs because pot is not enough for them. I am not saying that there cannot be consequences from marijuana use, because whether it is food, gambling, alcohol, pot, or heroin addiction, there is always consequences. I am just saying that pot did not cause them to move on to other drugs. Like Cranberry said, I would think the statistics for alcohol would probably be the same.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I wasn't assuming that ALL of them are abused but I would think it's wrong to assume that most aren't. A great deal of people in that lifestyle do happen to have been abused, not all, but many. I don't see this is like giving condoms to kids which I have no problem with. People will always break the law but it isn't a good excuse for removing the law.
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

    I wasn't addressing you.

    The condom analogy is simply that if people are going to do something anyway (have sex, hire a hooker, jump in a pool), why not make it safe? Prostitution isn't going to go away obviously. Why not make it safe for the sex workers and clients by making them get regularly tested for STDs, use protection each and every time and ensure their personal safety and give them the choice to leave the business if and when they choose? I don't see what damage it does to our society to legalize it, like at all.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I wasn't assuming that ALL of them are abused but I would think it's wrong to assume that most aren't. A great deal of people in that lifestyle do happen to have been abused, not all, but many. I don't see this is like giving condoms to kids which I have no problem with. People will always break the law but it isn't a good excuse for removing the law.
    Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

    No one is talking about making street prostitution legal. The idea is to take prostitution <em>off</em> the streets by legalizing, regulating and taxing it -- most likely in the form of brothels and discreet call services. I suppose solicitation could be legal in specifically zoned red light districts... but even then, prostitutes would be required to be licensed and with clean bills of health. Legal prostitution would replace pimps with managers and johns with clients, as well as empower prostitutes through unions. Presumably, it would also give them access to "normal" job benefits like health insurance and retirement planning. The point is to create an alternative outlet for this kind of thing, NOT to suddenly turn a blind eye to all of the abuses that you've described in previous posts.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_opinions-6?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:f726adca-42c1-4c91-86dd-53a5a2a089a5Post:41c07db7-d02c-425c-9a7e-baadfe2ae47c">Re: Opinions</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Considering I know the dealer who grows their own, yes.
    Posted by avsfan33[/QUOTE]

    Okay, just asking.  I've only seen someone flip out once and he found out a few days later that the guy he bought off of laced the bag. 
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    edited April 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_opinions-6?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:f726adca-42c1-4c91-86dd-53a5a2a089a5Post:07434132-1b96-44b9-b838-2ec6e2ec21d3">Re: Opinions</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Yeah, you wouldn't say it's slavery because it's not.  Not even close.  There are literally MILLIONS of things in America that objectify women.  I think you're getting a little over the top with the comparisons. 
    Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

    I didn't compare it to slavery, you said that. I agreed it wasn't. It is buying and selling a person as in their body, I did not mean that you literally got to keep the person. Perhaps we have different wording for things but it is referred to women selling their bodies when they are prostitutes. (at least were I am from)

    Yes, millions of things objectify women and I think it's a sad comment on society. Just because it's widespread doesn't mean it's right. I actually thing society is off mark on a number of things on that topic.

    EDIT: As I mentioned before I am well aware of all the reasons people have for legalizing it. I still don't agree that it should be legalized. I suppose because I am aware of the opposing arguements I don't think I'll be changing my opinion. It's an informed opinion as I assume everyone else's to be as well. SO, I just agree to disagree. :)
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_opinions-6?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:f726adca-42c1-4c91-86dd-53a5a2a089a5Post:5841a06b-cb88-452b-b9d6-c3145a6e1d02">Re: Opinions</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Oh god, I just saw what you saw.  That would have irked me, too.   I didn't mean it in a demeaning way towards your friends by any means.  I just meant we've obviously had different experiences with pot and how the people around us respond to it.   This did make me think of a question, though:  Do you notice any difference in the drug use/productivity between people you know from work and people you know through H, school or anywhere outside of work?  I only ask because working in restaraunts/bars for over 10 years, I've seen a lot of people that will smoke, snort or drink whatever they can get their hands on after a shift.  When I talk about my experiences, I'm more talking about the close friends I have, because I really can't speak to where the true drug addicts I have known started.  Well, I can for a few...but not all. 
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    I know a lot of addicts from all different areas of my life.  Some co-workers, some family, some friends.  Some use drugs socially (not that I agree with it but they dont have a "problem" per se) and some are full blown addicts.  They all had different life experiences and all ended up in the same place.

    I think you may be right that we run with "different types of people".  You are 22 and I am in my 30's.  My friends do not go out partying, they have families etc.  So I guess we are at different places in our lives.  But my friends that were smoking pot every day of their lives in their 20's are big fcking losers now in their 30's with no significant job or relationships and are still smoking pot everyday of their lives, and most in their moms basement.
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  • I'm more interested in how many pot smokers stop at pot. (Although I don't think there's an accurate way to measure this.)

    Or how the statistics Blue listed would change if pot didn't exist.
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