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StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:c0c0cd0a-4f71-47d6-b6bb-4cecfb64baea">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Steffi -- Just out of curiousity, did you mace the dog while it was casually walking around your property? Or when it was actively chasing your horse? NOT THAT EITHER IS OKAY. I'm just curious.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

Only when it was chasing the horse or cats. I carried a whip around the property to protect myself. I also carried my 15' whip around when doing farm chores and used that to defend my mare while she ate.

I consider getting knocked down and the dog jumping on me while I'm laying there and not being able to get up because he keeps knocking me down as a mauling. I'm not overly fond of being knocked on my ass in the gravel when I'm dressed for work.

OliveOilsMom · July 2012

Steffi all you had to do was call the cops. When the landlord said he would enact the nusiance clause in your contract, then you go to the lawyer to block your eviction! Technically, you could stop paying your rent, then file for bankruptcy and your landlord would still have a hell of a time kicking you out of the house! Kicking any tenant out of a property is much harder than it sounds.

Also, you are an evil person.

Meegles4 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:f3f7d218-42db-4f8f-ae60-3edc0ac0bdfa">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : <strong>That's what no one seems to be reading here - I offered to pay for a trainer, I took the dog home, I took the dog to the BFF/Landlord.</strong> The dog was a civil matter and on the property I live on he is welcome at all times. The landlord thinks the horse chasing is funny. I then consulted an attorney after my cat had injuries, dog chased horse unmercifully into a lather, I got thrown, and I got knocked down going out to my car on my way to work a few times. I desperately wanted out of my lease and wanted to leave. As it stands, we are out next month.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Nowhere in this does it say "I called animal control." Why didn't you do that? I'd think the worst the landlord could do if they were pissed b/c you called animal control is evict you, and it sounds like that'd be welcome anyways since you were wanting out because of all this.

Megbo2012 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:f3f7d218-42db-4f8f-ae60-3edc0ac0bdfa">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : That's what no one seems to be reading here - I offered to pay for a trainer, I took the dog home, I took the dog to the BFF/Landlord. The dog was a civil matter and on the property I live on he is welcome at all times. The landlord thinks the horse chasing is funny. I then consulted an attorney after my cat had injuries, dog chased horse unmercifully into a lather, I got thrown, and I got knocked down going out to my car on my way to work a few times. I desperately wanted out of my lease and wanted to leave. As it stands, we are out next month.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>I read it. But it took awhile since I kept rolling my eyes. </div>

kroot87 · July 2012

Steffi, I'm sure everyone has read that you made other efforts prior to macing the dog. However, "well, I tried this, this, and this.. time to mace the dog!" is not a rational thinking pattern. It's incredibly cruel. Get an airhorn, get a dog whistle. There are so many humane options to make the dog "uncomfortable" enough on your property to stay away without torturing it.

ErinG93 · July 2012

Oh god, the whip. THIS JUST GETS BETTER.

musicalsunlight · July 2012

Ohmyfucking god If you say that you whipped the dog I am gonna freak out.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:1368daba-04bf-47c8-8470-b639fb0036c6">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Yep. Eff the landlord. If a dog injures one of my cats, I'm calling the cops. Then if the landlord tries to evict me over that, fine. I'll gladly leave.
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]

She never threatened to evict me - just my animals.

calixtine · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:a0ad173a-9bee-47d1-94bc-1b0e11f0894f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Only when it was chasing the horse or cats. I carried a whip around the property to protect myself. I also carried my 15' whip around when doing farm chores and used that to defend my mare while she ate. I consider getting knocked down and the dog jumping on me while I'm laying there and not being able to get up because he keeps knocking me down as a mauling. I'm not overly fond of being knocked on my ass in the gravel when I'm dressed for work.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Jesus. So you maced AND whipped this dog now?

Megbo2012 · July 2012

And what is it you did with this whip? I'm sure we're all dying to know...

baystateapple · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:a0ad173a-9bee-47d1-94bc-1b0e11f0894f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Only when it was chasing the horse or cats. I carried a whip around the property to protect myself. <strong>I also carried my 15' whip around when doing farm chores and used that to defend my mare while she ate.</strong> I consider getting knocked down and the dog jumping on me while I'm laying there and not being able to get up because he keeps knocking me down as a mauling. I'm not overly fond of being knocked on my ass in the gravel when I'm dressed for work.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]
What the motherfuck?!

Steffi -- I DGAF what YOU consider "mauling" to be. Yours is not the opinion that the law considers. Thank God.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:34a88722-3db1-471c-aca3-155c1e1b32f5">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Wait ... did you also use the whip against the dog?
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

No, I never hit the dog with the whip. I'm not really evil.

StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:7491e993-7036-4ac6-80c3-3b9fe712dd3f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]And what is it you did with this whip? I'm sure we're all dying to know...
Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

Let's see - I ride horses. I worked pickup at the rodeo. I ride Dressage and Jumpers.

I've probably got 15 whips hanging around the house ranging from 30" to 15'

midgetthemighty · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:a0ad173a-9bee-47d1-94bc-1b0e11f0894f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Only when it was chasing the horse or cats. I carried a whip around the property to protect myself. I also carried my 15' whip around when doing farm chores and used that to defend my mare while she ate. I consider getting knocked down and the dog jumping on me while I'm laying there and not being able to get up because he keeps knocking me down as a mauling. I'm not overly fond of being knocked on my ass in the gravel when I'm dressed for work.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div class="header"><h2 class="me">maul</h2><span> </span><span class="pronset"> <span style="display:none;" class="show_ipapr"><span class="prondelim">/</span><span class="pron">mɔl</span><span class="prondelim">/</span> <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/IPA_pron_key.html" target="_blank" class="questionmark" rel="nofollow"></a><span style="display:inline;" class="pron_toggle"><a title="Click to show spelled" class="pronlink">Show Spelled</a></span></span><span style="display:inline;" class="show_spellpr"><span class="prondelim">[</span><span class="pron">mawl</span><span class="prondelim">]</span> <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/help/luna/Spell_pron_key.html" target="_blank" class="questionmark" rel="nofollow"></a><span style="display:inline;" class="pron_toggle"><a title="Click to show IPA" class="pronlink">Show IPA</a></span></span></span> </div><div class="body"><div class="pbk"><span class="pg"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">noun</span> </span></span><div class="luna-Ent"><span class="dnindex"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">1.</span> </span></span><div class="dndata"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">a</span> <span>heavy</span> <span>hammer,</span> <span>as</span> <span>for</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">driving</span> <span>stakes</span> <span>or</span> <span>wedges.</span> </span></div></div><div class="luna-Ent"><span class="dnindex"><span><span>2.</span> </span></span><div class="dndata"><span class="labset"><span class="ital-inline"><span><span>Archaic</span> </span></span><span>. </span></span><span><span>a</span> <span>heavy</span> <span>club</span> <span>or</span> <span>mace.</span>
<div class="pbk"><span class="pg"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">verb</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">(used</span> <span>with</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">object)</span> </span></span><div class="luna-Ent"><span class="dnindex"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">3.</span> </span></span><div class="dndata"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">to</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">handle</span> <span>or</span> <span>use</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">roughly:</span> </span><span class="ital-inline"><span><span>The</span> <span>book</span> <span>was</span> <span>badly</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">mauled</span> <span>by</span> <span>its</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">borrowers.</span> </span></span></div></div><div class="luna-Ent"><span class="dnindex"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">4.</span> </span></span><div class="dndata"><span><span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">to</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">injure</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">by</span> <span>a</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">rough</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">beating,</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">shoving,</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">or</span> <span>the</span> <span>like;</span> <span>bruise:</span> </span><span class="ital-inline"><span><span>to</span> <span>be</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">mauled</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">by</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">an</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">angry</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">crowd.</span> </span></span></div></div><div class="luna-Ent"><span class="dnindex"><span><span>5.</span> </span></span><div class="dndata"><span><span>to</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">split</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">with</span> <span>a</span> <span>maul</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">and</span> <span>wedge,</span> <span>as</span> <span>a</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">wooden</span> <span style="color:#333333;cursor:default;">rail.</span>

Nowhere in there do I see "over excited dog jumps on person". </span></div></div></div></span></div></div></div></div>

jessicabessica · July 2012

Steffi, please call the police and/or animal control. Your neighbors sound irresponsible, they're not doing their dog any favors. You landlord thinks it's funny to watch a dog torment your animals? You LL and neighbor sound like horrible people. Don't punish the dog for their bad behavior. Have you asked your attorney about quiet enjoyment/breaking the lease early?

Oh, and because this is FFF, this week EJ has reminded me of a trying-too-hard with worse (if possible) advice version of Kristin #s.

specialk84 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:cbb8f104-3c06-4238-8660-86e7d2f6e89c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, I never hit the dog with the whip.<strong> I'm not really evil.</strong>
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>Liar.</div>

Meegles4 · July 2012

Point of clarification. When this dog has knocked you on your ass, has it actually bitten you? Or just knocked you down?

ErinG93 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:76835da6-7f46-46e4-9a1e-cb951d63f345">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Let's see - I ride horses. I worked pickup at the rodeo. I ride Dressage and Jumpers. I've probably got 15 whips hanging around the house ranging from 30" to 15'
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]<div>
I think we're aware that people with horses have whips. You made it sound like you used them on the dog.

</div>

Megbo2012 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:cbb8f104-3c06-4238-8660-86e7d2f6e89c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, I never hit the dog with the whip. <strong>I'm not really evil.</strong>
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>That's debatable. </div>

ahhhitsshannyn · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:cbb8f104-3c06-4238-8660-86e7d2f6e89c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, I never hit the dog with the whip. <strong>I'm not really evil.
</strong>Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Really? Because you said "I used that to defend my mare while eating." Sounds like you used it.

Megbo2012 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:76835da6-7f46-46e4-9a1e-cb951d63f345">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Let's see - I ride horses. I worked pickup at the rodeo. I ride Dressage and Jumpers. I've probably got 15 whips hanging around the house ranging from 30" to 15'
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>Thanks for the sass you fuuck!ng jackass</div>

Matty143 · July 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, I never hit the dog with the whip. I'm not really evil.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Shame on you.

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StefffiC · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:1698f403-ff7c-4bdc-8ec3-bda53d9dd1ea">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Really? Because you said "I used thayt to defend my mare while eating." Sounds like you used it.
Posted by ahhhitsshannyn[/QUOTE]

I cracked it and shook it at the dog, but no, I never hit the dog.

ArynBaker · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:cbb8f104-3c06-4238-8660-86e7d2f6e89c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, I never hit the dog with the whip. I'm not really evil.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>I don't know what world you live in but I can imagine bear mace hurts way more than a whip to the hind does. Mace in your eyes lasts for hours! And that's the human kind! </div>

specialk84 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:fa148432-90b6-4990-a0c0-c48b3f87764b">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Steffi - <strong>I'm really unclear as to why you've involved your lawyer in this and not the cops, and why after you've tried to resolve things with your landlord, and he's refused, you STILL haven't called the cops or animal control. Honestly? The only thing I can think is that you've got something going on at your own place that isn't entirely legal and you don't want to involve the authorities. Seriously, bear mace makes no sense.</strong> ETA: Also, it frankly shocks me that you'd resort to this. You've always seemed like someone who actually cares about animals (aside from the whole euthanizing your cats upon your death thing, where I actually sort of saw where you were coming from). I get you don't like dogs, but I would think your love of animals overall would make you have a somewhat more rational reaction than attacking it with mace. I don't like cats. Does that mean I go around taking extreme action when one scratches me? No. Because overall, I like animals and don't want to hurt them.
Posted by Meegles4[/QUOTE]

<div>I must have skipped over this earlier, but this is a good point. I wonder if Steffi has something going on at home she doesn't want the police to know about, since she seems to be going out of her way to not call them to do their jobs.</div>

Megbo2012 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:1698f403-ff7c-4bdc-8ec3-bda53d9dd1ea">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Really? Because you said "I used that to defend my mare while eating." Sounds like you used it.
Posted by ahhhitsshannyn[/QUOTE]

<div>That's exactly where I got that from. WTF else would that mean? Were you whipping crows that tried to steal some of the mare's food? Cometheeffon. </div>

chelseamb11 · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:7ef1071c-d795-4efc-b3ec-d145cce9d8d0">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : She never threatened to evict me - just my animals.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

That you weren't supposed to originally have there anyway IIRC?
Really?

WHY have you not answered the question as to why you haven't called the cops yet? That should have been the first thing if your neighbors/landlord were being so unaccomodating. That dog cannot help if its poorly trained. Inflicting pain onto it isn't going to help anything.

dumdumfroggie · July 2012

Steffi? Exactly how full of shiiit are you? Your stories gather more and more details as they roll on toward the end of the cliff. Anytime anyone mentions something, you have a one up story on them. And frankly, not long before your macing story, you were flamed horrible for wanting to "euth" your cats. How would you think sharing the macing story would go over any better? You had to have known it would cause drama. So, either you're a freaking liar who just wants more and more attention, or you're just so damn stupid it's not worth even acknowledging you.

specialk84 · July 2012

Steffi, why are you even trying to dig yourself out of this hole? You know you're not going to change anyone's mind about you, right? Are you stupid?

ahhhitsshannyn · July 2012

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-97?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:99bd8be1-e439-4dd8-9082-1789d0df1860Post:8207535d-a778-439b-88f5-02f573f4807b">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I must have skipped over this earlier, but this is a good point. I wonder if Steffi has something going on at home she doesn't want the police to know about, since she seems to be going out of her way to not call them to do their jobs.
Posted by specialk84[/QUOTE]

Good theory. SINCE SHE STILL HASN'T FUCKING ANSWERED WHY NO COPS OR ANIMAL CONTROL WAS CALLED. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCCK.

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