Flameful Confessions

GreenPepperBurger · October 2010

I guess I can see a sort of O'Keefe resemblance in Sea's icon. But I like it.

calindi · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : Oh my gosh! LOL It is an orchid, dirty mind! I was actually thinking about changing it to my picture soon. Of my face... not my vagina.
Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

Hahaha.... oh man, I LITERALLY laughed out loud at this one!

Hey, I'm a big fan of Georgia O'Keefe and she's got lots of flower/genitalia images.

Goldlie11 · October 2010

Confession:

1. I have to agree that some of the older regs morphed into being mean. I was around before most of them got here (with a different screen name). And saw them go from fair to mean. They weren't mean to me, but I was still shocked at some of the things that I read.

2. I stand by that looking at wedding stuff doesn't make you BSC. I will say that it is a waste of time.

3. I was offended when I read GPB's statement. I think that making blanket statements like, I judge under 1 carat is silly.

4. I can't stand when people talk about the ring being a reflection of being able to afford a wedding. Considering this is a recession, FI and I are doing pretty well for an under one carat couple. In less than a year, we have been able to save about $14,000 towards the wedding. Not to mention that we pay all of our bills on time and have no debt other than some student loans. We also have extra money in savings not earmarked for the wedding. So, blanket statements about rings and what they mean annoy me. I've known people with way more money than me who wear only a plain gold band or rings that are smaller than mine. Not everyone is obsessed with diamonds. Get with it people.

GreenPepperBurger · October 2010

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[QUOTE]Confession: 3. I was offended when I read GPB's statement.
Posted by Goldlie11[/QUOTE]

I said, <em><strong>I</strong></em> would be upset if my ring was under a carat. I didn't say that everyone's ring should be over a carat. It's really not about the ring - I get that. It's just a personal thing. Wasn't this supposed to be a "judge-free zone" of confessions?

SeaTea02 · October 2010

I was not trying to channel Ms. O'Keefe, promise. It is just my favorite flower... now we can talk about Freud and what that might mean.

Goldlie11 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : I said, I would be upset if my ring was under a carat. I didn't say that everyone's ring should be over a carat. It's really not about the ring - I get that. It's just a personal thing. Wasn't this supposed to be a "judge-free zone" of confessions?
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]
I was just being honest. That doesn't make you a bad person, but I did get a little offended. I don't see how that means I judged you. <div><div>
</div><div>I was just about to edit to make it clear that my last confession (number 4) had nothing to do with you or your comment.</div></div>

HeartOverMind · October 2010

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[QUOTE]I was not trying to channel Ms. O'Keefe, promise. It is just my favorite flower... <strong>now we can talk about Freud and what that might mean.
</strong>Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

Your pic reminds me of a vagina, too! So according to Freud, that would make me a lesbian???

cruisebunny7 · October 2010

Here's a big confession.

I HATE the "typical" bride who becomes engaged after 2.5 years of dating,gets her dress at David's Bridal, has a bachlorette party covered in male parts, then gets married on a random Saturday and fly off to Sandals for their honeymoon. UGH. I LOATHE those brides, I see them every freaking day and I hate them. It's not a jealousy thing, just a "how can you be such a sheep" thing. OHH and I also can't stand the stupid Bride and Groom T-Shirts they wear to the airport, NO it does not get you an upgrade, NO I don't know nor care that you are on your honeymoon and NO your Bridezilla attitude gets you no where with me. I was a ticket agent and gate agent before I was an FA....I have seen and heard it all y'all....7 years in this industry and I am surprised I still have a soul.

I have only been on the board for a short time but I like y'all so far. I am used to drama and it does not effect me anymore. Nothing you say will break my heart.

OK my one BSC thing....We know where we want to get married and have our reception as well as who we want to cater...only because we LOVE LOVE LOVE the food. That's it though...no money has passed hands, no plans drawn up...just ideas tossed between us and our families.

Thank's y'all...I feel MUCH better.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]Here's a big confession. <strong> I HATE the "typical" bride who becomes engaged after 2.5 years of dating,gets her dress at David's Bridal, has a bachlorette party covered in male parts, then gets married on a random Saturday and fly off to Sandals for their honeymoon. UGH. I LOATHE those brides, I see them every freaking day and I hate them. It's not a jealousy thing, just a "how can you be such a sheep" thing. </strong> OHH and I also can't stand the stupid Bride and Groom T-Shirts they wear to the airport, NO it does not get you an upgrade, NO I don't know nor care that you are on your honeymoon and NO your Bridezilla attitude gets you no where with me. I was a ticket agent and gate agent before I was an FA....I have seen and heard it all y'all....7 years in this industry and I am surprised I still have a soul. I have only been on the board for a short time but I like y'all so far. I am used to drama and it does not effect me anymore. Nothing you say will break my heart. OK my one BSC thing....We know where we want to get married and have our reception as well as who we want to cater...only because we LOVE LOVE LOVE the food. That's it though...no money has passed hands, no plans drawn up...just ideas tossed between us and our families. Thank's y'all...I feel MUCH better.
Posted by cruisebunny7[/QUOTE]

Oh, me too! The thing that's most important to me about my wedding/engagement ring/honeymoon/bachelorette party/etc is that they all be unique.

SeaTea02 · October 2010

But I want a bride and groom t-shirt! lol

I wont expect upgrades for it though.

cruisebunny7 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]But I want a bride and groom t-shirt! lol I wont expect upgrades for it though.
Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

You can...just don't wear them on my flights and we will be cool as cake.

<img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />

I talk a big game...I will have luggage tags lol

Ana_2985 · October 2010

Nothing makes me roll my eyes/want to hurl more than hearing women talk about anything wedding related (their ring/their dress/their theme or decor) as unique. I don't care how personalized it is, chances are it's not unique. It's practically impossible. And who cares? Why does it matter if your ring or dress looks like anyone else's? (These questions and comments are not directed to any one in particular.)

I think it's silly when brides say that want a dress that people will remember. I can't comprehend that desire at all. Why does it matter if your dress is "unforgettable"? What will happen if people can't describe your dress a year from now?

I feel some people use their wedding to live out their "I'm a reality-star" fantasy.

Narwhal · October 2010

I hate it when people try so hard to be unique in general.

If you are trying so hard to be different that you aren't even doing what you really want to do, you aren't really that unique after all.

Goldlie11 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]Nothing makes me roll my eyes/want to hurl more than hearing women talk about anything wedding related (their ring/their dress/their theme or decor) as unique. I don't care how personalized it is, chances are it's not unique. It's practically impossible. And who cares? Why does it matter if your ring or dress looks like anyone else's? (These questions and comments are not directed to any one in particular.) I think it's silly when brides say that want a dress that people will remember. I can't comprehend that desire at all. Why does it matter if your dress is "unforgettable"? What will happen if people can't describe your dress a year from now? I feel some people use their wedding to live out their "I'm a reality-star" fantasy.
Posted by Ana_2985[/QUOTE]
Ana FTW!<div>
</div><div>Seriously, there was a girl complaining on some board that someone "stole" her wedding colors. Really? I'm pretty sure there isn't a combination out there that has never been done. </div>

Ana_2985 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]I hate it when people try so hard to be unique in general. If you are trying so hard to be different that you aren't even doing what you really want to do, you aren't really that unique after all.
Posted by Narwhal[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

desertsun · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : I think you have done a really good job of being respectful on the boards. I wouldn't hold a grudge on here either. It is the internet!
Posted by SeaTea02[/QUOTE]

n Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_flameful-confessions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:b145acd0-1b13-4cf0-90d2-2fcf74d3d049Post:09574a98-6820-4f7d-9f31-b50816b152fa">Re: Flameful Confessions</a>:
[QUOTE]Acro and Desert - adaptation is the name of the game, and you both have done a beautiful job in welcoming new faces while maintaining old friendships, in my opinion. There are others who have also been gracious, too, but some simply would prefer the board remain as it was, and it's obvious dynamics change on a public board like this.
Posted by calindi[/QUOTE]

Thanks, Cate and SeaTea, for your nice comments! Much appreciated!

jemmini6 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : I said, I would be upset if my ring was under a carat. I didn't say that everyone's ring should be over a carat. It's really not about the ring - I get that. It's just a personal thing. Wasn't this supposed to be a "judge-free zone" of confessions?
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]

GPB, have you tried on a 1 carat ring? When I was looking at rings online, I thought 1 carat looked the best in all the settings and it's the size I was stuck on looking at, but when I actually put one on my finger, it looked ridiculous on me. Way too big for my hands and way too tall of a setting since II don't ever wear rings.

Obviously not saying there is anything wrong at all with wanting one, just saying you really should try it on to see if you like it. I ended up choosing a .5 carat and think it's just the right size for me.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]I hate it when people try so hard to be unique in general. I<strong>f you are trying so hard to be different that you aren't even doing what you really want to do, you aren't really that unique after all.</strong>
Posted by Narwhal[/QUOTE]

You could say the same thing about tradition. If you're doing something because it's just tradition and not because it's how you really want it, then what's the point?

I just think weddings should reflect the couple, and no two are alike, so they really should be unique in at least some respects.

Narwhal · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : <strong>You could say the same thing about tradition. If you're doing something because it's just tradition and not because it's how you really want it, then what's the point?</strong> I just think weddings should reflect the couple, and no two are alike, so they really should be unique in at least some respects.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

<div>The point is that it is traditional. The point of being unique is to be unique but if everyone else is trying to be so unique then you really aren't unique at all.</div>

GreenPepperBurger · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : GPB, have you tried on a 1 carat ring? When I was looking at rings online, I thought 1 carat looked the best in all the settings and it's the size I was stuck on looking at, but when I actually put one on my finger, it looked ridiculous on me. Way too big for my hands and way too tall of a setting since II don't ever wear rings. Obviously not saying there is anything wrong at all with wanting one, just saying you really should try it on to see if you like it. I ended up choosing a .5 carat and think it's just the right size for me.
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

All the rings I've tried on were in the 1-1.5 carat range, and I thought they looked perfect - not too big, not too small. I have smallish hands, but long(er) fingers, and the smaller stones appeared to be very tiny.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : GPB, have you tried on a 1 carat ring? When I was looking at rings online, I thought 1 carat looked the best in all the settings and it's the size I was stuck on looking at, but when I actually put one on my finger, it looked ridiculous on me. Way too big for my hands and way too tall of a setting since II don't ever wear rings. Obviously not saying there is anything wrong at all with wanting one, just saying you really should try it on to see if you like it. I ended up choosing a .5 carat and think it's just the right size for me.
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

Jemmini, what's your finger size? That makes a big difference. I have short, stocky fingers, and anything smaller than about 1.5 carats just made them look stockier.

It depends on the cut of the stone, too, though. Like, a 2 carat round looks a good deal bigger than a 2 carat cushion, etc.

Ana_2985 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : You could say the same thing about tradition. If you're doing something because it's just tradition and not because it's how you really want it, then what's the point? I just think weddings should reflect the couple, and no two are alike, so they really should be unique in at least some respects.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

Traditional and unique are not opposites. You can but untraditional but you're still probably not going to be unique.

You're right- no two couples are a like. And that's just about as unique as you're going to get.

I just think "unique" is so over-used and more often than not it's used incorrectly.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : The point is that it is traditional. The point of being unique just to be unique but if everyone else is trying to be so unique then you really aren't unique at all.
Posted by Narwhal[/QUOTE]

There's a pretty big difference between being unique "just to be unique" and being unique as a side effect of doing what reflects you. I can see that I mis-worded my post when I said that my main criteria is to be unique. Yes, I want my wedding to be unique, but only because I'm not a traditional person, and a traditional wedding would basically be a lie. I want my wedding to reflect BF and me. There will be parts that are traditional, too.

desertsun · October 2010

I judge people who buy expensive dresses. Like over $2kish. You're wearing it ONCE.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : Traditional and unique are not opposites. You can but untraditional but you're still probably not going to be unique. You're right- no two couples are a like. And that's just about as unique as you're going to get. <strong>I just think "unique" is so over-used and more often than not it's used incorrectly.</strong>
Posted by Ana_2985[/QUOTE]

That's true. I guess, technically, every wedding is "unique" since there are no two exactly alike.

I guess "personalized" would be a better word.

Narwhal · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : There's a pretty big difference between being unique "just to be unique" and being unique as a side effect of doing what reflects you. I can see that I mis-worded my post when I said that my main criteria is to be unique. Yes, I want my wedding to be unique, but only because I'm not a traditional person, and a traditional wedding would basically be a lie. I want my wedding to reflect BF and me. There will be parts that are traditional, too.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>My post wasn't directed towards you.</div><div>
</div><div>I don't have a problem with people being different, I just don't like to see them trying so hard to achieve it that they miss the mark.

</div>

loves2shop4shoes · October 2010

FWIW, I wear a ring size 7. I have sort of chubby fingers. I don't think my 1ct looks huge at all.

Elle1036 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : My post wasn't directed towards you. I don't have a problem with people being different, I just don't like to see them trying so hard to achieve it that they miss the mark.
Posted by Narwhal[/QUOTE]

No worries, I didn't take it personally. Your post just made me realize that I needed to clarify what I meant.

jemmini6 · October 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flameful Confessions : Jemmini, what's your finger size? That makes a big difference. I have short, stocky fingers, and anything smaller than about 1.5 carats just made them look stockier. It depends on the cut of the stone, too, though. Like, a 2 carat round looks a good deal bigger than a 2 carat cushion, etc.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

My ring is a 5.5. I also think a lot of why I thought a 1 carat looked too big is that I literally never wear rings, so I think going from nothing to a 1 carat was too big of a leap. I really liked the size of the .75 carat stone, but the setting was so much higher than the .5 carat. If they could've done the .75 stone in the .5 setting, it would've been perfect, but they said that it needs more 'support' or something for the next stone size. Oh well, I love my .5 carat ring because it fits "me".

Ana_2985 · October 2010

Yes, personalized is a much better description, IMO.

I just don't get it though. I think that NOT going to Sandals for your honeymoon because all of the sheep do it is just as stupid as going to Sandals because it's a common HM thing to do.

I'm a big fan of doing whatever you want regardless of whether it's cool/trendy/traditional or not. I really dislike when people like a band/TV show/fashion trend only until it becomes super popular. God forbid you're just like everyone else. It's so annoying when people feel the need to point out how ahead of the trend they were.

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