Is reading comprehension that hard? At what point did I compare watching one's own cocktail in public and rapists breaking and entering? Jesus fucking Christ, is understanding the difference between the things we can control and the things we can't that fucking hard? I get that some posters aren't as bright as others but I've been pretty goddamn clear about the difference and I don't get what's hard to grasp. I'll continue to concern myself with personal safety and what exactly I consider people's own responsibilities to themselves. Not all of us are bumbling through life with blinders on. Some of us have a healthy grasp on what is and isn't within our control. I'm beyond tired of people not having an equally firm grasp on the same.
I have a question. You don't seem to like most of the people here. So...why the hell are you here? Because I'm pretty sure coming here just to stir up shit is against TOS and that's all you do.
I've actually seen this person say flat out she likes saying stuff to piss off the other posters because it's fun. I say we just collectively stop feeding the troll, I have yet to see her hop on a thread without the intent to just rile people up.
Aren't trolls just like the boogeyman? You ignore them and they go away?
I should have known that she would fucking be here with this bullshit again.
OP, I'm glad that you are feeling okay-ish today, and agree with other posters that you really should see a doctor. I'm sorry that an ignorant, piece of shit troll made you feel bad, and like you shouldn't seek medical help.
Is reading comprehension that hard? At what point did I compare watching one's own cocktail in public and rapists breaking and entering? Jesus fucking Christ, is understanding the difference between the things we can control and the things we can't that fucking hard? I get that some posters aren't as bright as others but I've been pretty goddamn clear about the difference and I don't get what's hard to grasp. I'll continue to concern myself with personal safety and what exactly I consider people's own responsibilities to themselves. Not all of us are bumbling through life with blinders on. Some of us have a healthy grasp on what is and isn't within our control. I'm beyond tired of people not having an equally firm grasp on the same.
I have a question. You don't seem to like most of the people here. So...why the hell are you here? Because I'm pretty sure coming here just to stir up shit is against TOS and that's all you do.
I've actually seen this person say flat out she likes saying stuff to piss off the other posters because it's fun. I say we just collectively stop feeding the troll, I have yet to see her hop on a thread without the intent to just rile people up.
Aren't trolls just like the boogeyman? You ignore them and they go away?
Yup lol. I've actually had that poster "ignored" for while now. There's an "Ignore" button on everyone's profile that makes their posts just not visible to you when you go on a discussion. I just see their name and a blank space, then a bunch of really fed-up replies to let me know that more shit-stirring is going on and blocking the posts was a good idea.
pinkrevenge said:
mrs4everhart said:
I'm going to cut your FI a ton of slack. Because I assume he wasn't sober either. And that's why you guys were in an Uber in the first place - because neither of you should have been driving. So I'm not sure why if getting home from the bar was an unsafe drive, why driving to the ER was any better of an idea. Second, still assuming he was intoxicated too, he probably wasn't making the best decisions ever. That's why there's a huge difference between being drunk and sober. I can imagine you feel violated in some way, as you should because some creepy fucker may have slipped you something. If you go to the ER today what are you hoping to accomplish? Let's say that you test positive from some drug that you didn't take yourself. Now what? If you're invested enough to try to get this incident to the police or the bar owner then proceed, sure. In a perfect world the bar will have surveillance footage, someone will sit through an hour or so of footage watching you, your drink(s), and everyone who came near it, then by a stroke of extreme luck the camera catches said creeper taking out a pill/powder/tincture, his/her face, the act of he or she putting it in your drink, your drinking the drink, etc. What are the odds? I run a bar. Our cameras are not there for the consumer, they are there to protect our assets. Meaning they are located over cash registers, store rooms, liquor storage, coolers and offices. This is the arrangement in most bars with cameras. Sure, we have other cameras in other places, but it's rare they ever catch anything nefarious in great detail. And rarely, if ever, is the footage good enough to use in prosecution. So my question really goes back to how much effort do you want to put into this seriously? Be thankful you got home safely with your FI and not the drug-wielding creeper. Be thankful you feel okay this morning. And never, EVER leave your drink out of your sight or unattended ever, ever again. Because unless it was the bartender, you should have physical control over your beverage at all times. It's a sad world that we need to be that vigilant at all times, but that's just a fact. I watch women (and men) many nights of the week leave their drinks on the bar or at their table (usually with their purses too) to go to the bathroom or head to the dance floor and I get so damn frustrated. It's not that I don't want these women to be able to do this worry free, but it only takes a second to slip someone something and turn their night into a horror movie. Maybe I'm paranoid (okay, I am, I admit it) but I trust very few people and pretty much zero strangers. Count your lucky stars you're okay, call the bar and let them know in case they have other similar complaints from last night, and try to do something today to take your mind off creepy fuckers who suck at life.
I want to know what bar you run so I can avoid it at all costs. A woman believes she was drugged in a bar and you're response is "So? What do you hope to accomplish?"
You wouldn't want to know if someone is targeting your patrons? Using your bar as their place to be a sexual predator? What the ever-loving-FUCK? Edited - Piss off boxes. I'm sick of your shit. -----------------------------------------------------------
In my line of work, it's not about what wewant. Of course normal people who run bars/restaurants/venues don't want their patrons targeted for any number of reasons. I don't want run of the mill creepers, rapists, serial killers, pick pockets, thieves, gang bangers, 1%'ers, and a whole bunch of other fucktards who will ruin my night or anyone else's coming through the door.
But that's just it. I don't have control over what scumbags do. So in fact, I have to assume that the lowest common denominators out there are targeting my patrons. What I want is for my patrons to assume the same. It's not enough for me to be vigilant for them. Or my security staff. Because the many individuals through the door will always greatly out number us. The majority of them will be normal, law-abiding citizens out for the night for a good time. But unfortunately most dirtbags don't announce their intentions at the front door.
I don't want to have to assign blame after the fact. That's always been my point. It's too late then. I'm well aware of who is at fault for drugging someone, raping someone, mugging someone, etc. Why should it have to get to that point if it's at all avoidable? As I've now said repeatedly, not every situation is within our control, but fuck me running, we as adults should try our hardest to avoid the ones we can.
With this thread in mind, I really paid attention, more so than usual, last night while working. Literally hundreds through the door and countless unattended drinks (that weren't trash), coats, purses, cell phones. No one has the right to tamper with these things. But what the fuck? Why would any reasonable, responsible person, man or woman, leave their shit just sitting out? I don't get it. I watched drunken random hookups between strangers that had god-only-knows-what-consequences. Being the stone cold sober person in a room full of intoxicated people night after night, year after year, is a real education and I can say with much certainty, many people do not factor their own safety in to a night out with friends. That's all I've been saying. And it wasn't to attack the OP, or even assume what happened to her, because even she doesn't know. But I sincerely hope everyone reading this takes a moment and thinks over what their responsibility to their own safety really, truly is. Because there are some real fucked up people out their, and they live to make others their victim. Why ever give them opportunity if it can be helped?
As I've now said repeatedly, not every situation is within our control, but fuck me running, we as adults should try our hardest to avoid the ones we can.
The thing is, your comment sound like you assume that the OP wasn't vigilant and didn't try to avoid this. We don't know the circumstances in which she was drugged. Someone may have bumped into her and she turned her head for a split second in a reflex. There are so many innocuous things that probably happened, and these are all things that could easily happen to any one of us.
There is a little thing called decency here that you are disgustingly lacking. I have a dear friend in the hospital fighting for his life right now. He had just started dating a new woman who turned out to be not-so-nice. What was a simple visit to someone's apartment ended with a gunshot wound to his lung and having his skull bashed in. I hope and pray that if someone you love is ever in a situation like OP or my friend that you'd find it in your heart to simply be there for them and offer words of support and encouragement .
In my line of work, it's not about what wewant. Of course normal people who run bars/restaurants/venues don't want their patrons targeted for any number of reasons. I don't want run of the mill creepers, rapists, serial killers, pick pockets, thieves, gang bangers, 1%'ers, and a whole bunch of other fucktards who will ruin my night or anyone else's coming through the door.
But that's just it. I don't have control over what scumbags do. So in fact, I have to assume that the lowest common denominators out there are targeting my patrons. What I want is for my patrons to assume the same. It's not enough for me to be vigilant for them. Or my security staff. Because the many individuals through the door will always greatly out number us. The majority of them will be normal, law-abiding citizens out for the night for a good time. But unfortunately most dirtbags don't announce their intentions at the front door.
I don't want to have to assign blame after the fact. That's always been my point. It's too late then. I'm well aware of who is at fault for drugging someone, raping someone, mugging someone, etc. Why should it have to get to that point if it's at all avoidable? As I've now said repeatedly, not every situation is within our control, but fuck me running, we as adults should try our hardest to avoid the ones we can.
With this thread in mind, I really paid attention, more so than usual, last night while working. Literally hundreds through the door and countless unattended drinks (that weren't trash), coats, purses, cell phones. No one has the right to tamper with these things. But what the fuck? Why would any reasonable, responsible person, man or woman, leave their shit just sitting out? I don't get it. I watched drunken random hookups between strangers that had god-only-knows-what-consequences. Being the stone cold sober person in a room full of intoxicated people night after night, year after year, is a real education and I can say with much certainty, many people do not factor their own safety in to a night out with friends. That's all I've been saying. And it wasn't to attack the OP, or even assume what happened to her, because even she doesn't know. But I sincerely hope everyone reading this takes a moment and thinks over what their responsibility to their own safety really, truly is. Because there are some real fucked up people out their, and they live to make others their victim. Why ever give them opportunity if it can be helped?
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I don't even know what to say that hasn't already been said. Just because someone isn't vigilantly watching their drink all night, they are giving someone the "opportunity" to drug and rape them? If that is how you really think, there is really no point in reasoning with you because as the saying goes, you can't fix stupid.
You give awful advice. It's obvious you don't care about anyone on these forums, and the feeling is mutual. Why are you still even here?
I'm going to cut your FI a ton of slack. Because I assume he wasn't sober either. And that's why you guys were in an Uber in the first place - because neither of you should have been driving. So I'm not sure why if getting home from the bar was an unsafe drive, why driving to the ER was any better of an idea. Second, still assuming he was intoxicated too, he probably wasn't making the best decisions ever. That's why there's a huge difference between being drunk and sober.
I can imagine you feel violated in some way, as you should because some creepy fucker may have slipped you something.
If you go to the ER today what are you hoping to accomplish? Let's say that you test positive from some drug that you didn't take yourself. Now what? If you're invested enough to try to get this incident to the police or the bar owner then proceed, sure.
In a perfect world the bar will have surveillance footage, someone will sit through an hour or so of footage watching you, your drink(s), and everyone who came near it, then by a stroke of extreme luck the camera catches said creeper taking out a pill/powder/tincture, his/her face, the act of he or she putting it in your drink, your drinking the drink, etc. What are the odds?
I run a bar. Our cameras are not there for the consumer, they are there to protect our assets. Meaning they are located over cash registers, store rooms, liquor storage, coolers and offices. This is the arrangement in most bars with cameras. Sure, we have other cameras in other places, but it's rare they ever catch anything nefarious in great detail. And rarely, if ever, is the footage good enough to use in prosecution. So my question really goes back to how much effort do you want to put into this seriously?
Be thankful you got home safely with your FI and not the drug-wielding creeper. Be thankful you feel okay this morning. And never, EVER leave your drink out of your sight or unattended ever, ever again. Because unless it was the bartender, you should have physical control over your beverage at all times. It's a sad world that we need to be that vigilant at all times, but that's just a fact. I watch women (and men) many nights of the week leave their drinks on the bar or at their table (usually with their purses too) to go to the bathroom or head to the dance floor and I get so damn frustrated. It's not that I don't want these women to be able to do this worry free, but it only takes a second to slip someone something and turn their night into a horror movie. Maybe I'm paranoid (okay, I am, I admit it) but I trust very few people and pretty much zero strangers.
Count your lucky stars you're okay, call the bar and let them know in case they have other similar complaints from last night, and try to do something today to take your mind off creepy fuckers who suck at life.
I want to know what bar you run so I can avoid it at all costs. A woman believes she was drugged in a bar and you're response is "So? What do you hope to accomplish?"
You wouldn't want to know if someone is targeting your patrons? Using your bar as their place to be a sexual predator? What the ever-loving-FUCK?
Edited - Piss off boxes. I'm sick of your shit. -----------------------------------------------------------
In my line of work, it's not about what wewant. Of course normal people who run bars/restaurants/venues don't want their patrons targeted for any number of reasons. I don't want run of the mill creepers, rapists, serial killers, pick pockets, thieves, gang bangers, 1%'ers, and a whole bunch of other fucktards who will ruin my night or anyone else's coming through the door.
But that's just it. I don't have control over what scumbags do. So in fact, I have to assume that the lowest common denominators out there are targeting my patrons. What I want is for my patrons to assume the same. It's not enough for me to be vigilant for them. Or my security staff. Because the many individuals through the door will always greatly out number us. The majority of them will be normal, law-abiding citizens out for the night for a good time. But unfortunately most dirtbags don't announce their intentions at the front door.
I don't want to have to assign blame after the fact. That's always been my point. It's too late then. I'm well aware of who is at fault for drugging someone, raping someone, mugging someone, etc. Why should it have to get to that point if it's at all avoidable? As I've now said repeatedly, not every situation is within our control, but fuck me running, we as adults should try our hardest to avoid the ones we can.
With this thread in mind, I really paid attention, more so than usual, last night while working. Literally hundreds through the door and countless unattended drinks (that weren't trash), coats, purses, cell phones. No one has the right to tamper with these things. But what the fuck? Why would any reasonable, responsible person, man or woman, leave their shit just sitting out? I don't get it. I watched drunken random hookups between strangers that had god-only-knows-what-consequences. Being the stone cold sober person in a room full of intoxicated people night after night, year after year, is a real education and I can say with much certainty, many people do not factor their own safety in to a night out with friends. That's all I've been saying. And it wasn't to attack the OP, or even assume what happened to her, because even she doesn't know. But I sincerely hope everyone reading this takes a moment and thinks over what their responsibility to their own safety really, truly is. Because there are some real fucked up people out their, and they live to make others their victim. Why ever give them opportunity if it can be helped?
I'm going to cut your FI a ton of slack. Because I assume he wasn't sober either. And that's why you guys were in an Uber in the first place - because neither of you should have been driving. So I'm not sure why if getting home from the bar was an unsafe drive, why driving to the ER was any better of an idea. Second, still assuming he was intoxicated too, he probably wasn't making the best decisions ever. That's why there's a huge difference between being drunk and sober.
I can imagine you feel violated in some way, as you should because some creepy fucker may have slipped you something.
If you go to the ER today what are you hoping to accomplish? Let's say that you test positive from some drug that you didn't take yourself. Now what? If you're invested enough to try to get this incident to the police or the bar owner then proceed, sure.
In a perfect world the bar will have surveillance footage, someone will sit through an hour or so of footage watching you, your drink(s), and everyone who came near it, then by a stroke of extreme luck the camera catches said creeper taking out a pill/powder/tincture, his/her face, the act of he or she putting it in your drink, your drinking the drink, etc. What are the odds?
I run a bar. Our cameras are not there for the consumer, they are there to protect our assets. Meaning they are located over cash registers, store rooms, liquor storage, coolers and offices. This is the arrangement in most bars with cameras. Sure, we have other cameras in other places, but it's rare they ever catch anything nefarious in great detail. And rarely, if ever, is the footage good enough to use in prosecution. So my question really goes back to how much effort do you want to put into this seriously?
Be thankful you got home safely with your FI and not the drug-wielding creeper. Be thankful you feel okay this morning. And never, EVER leave your drink out of your sight or unattended ever, ever again. Because unless it was the bartender, you should have physical control over your beverage at all times. It's a sad world that we need to be that vigilant at all times, but that's just a fact. I watch women (and men) many nights of the week leave their drinks on the bar or at their table (usually with their purses too) to go to the bathroom or head to the dance floor and I get so damn frustrated. It's not that I don't want these women to be able to do this worry free, but it only takes a second to slip someone something and turn their night into a horror movie. Maybe I'm paranoid (okay, I am, I admit it) but I trust very few people and pretty much zero strangers.
Count your lucky stars you're okay, call the bar and let them know in case they have other similar complaints from last night, and try to do something today to take your mind off creepy fuckers who suck at life.
I want to know what bar you run so I can avoid it at all costs. A woman believes she was drugged in a bar and you're response is "So? What do you hope to accomplish?"
You wouldn't want to know if someone is targeting your patrons? Using your bar as their place to be a sexual predator? What the ever-loving-FUCK?
Edited - Piss off boxes. I'm sick of your shit. -----------------------------------------------------------
In my line of work, it's not about what wewant. Of course normal people who run bars/restaurants/venues don't want their patrons targeted for any number of reasons. I don't want run of the mill creepers, rapists, serial killers, pick pockets, thieves, gang bangers, 1%'ers, and a whole bunch of other fucktards who will ruin my night or anyone else's coming through the door.
But that's just it. I don't have control over what scumbags do. So in fact, I have to assume that the lowest common denominators out there are targeting my patrons. What I want is for my patrons to assume the same. It's not enough for me to be vigilant for them. Or my security staff. Because the many individuals through the door will always greatly out number us. The majority of them will be normal, law-abiding citizens out for the night for a good time. But unfortunately most dirtbags don't announce their intentions at the front door.
I don't want to have to assign blame after the fact. That's always been my point. It's too late then. I'm well aware of who is at fault for drugging someone, raping someone, mugging someone, etc. Why should it have to get to that point if it's at all avoidable? As I've now said repeatedly, not every situation is within our control, but fuck me running, we as adults should try our hardest to avoid the ones we can.
With this thread in mind, I really paid attention, more so than usual, last night while working. Literally hundreds through the door and countless unattended drinks (that weren't trash), coats, purses, cell phones. No one has the right to tamper with these things. But what the fuck? Why would any reasonable, responsible person, man or woman, leave their shit just sitting out? I don't get it. I watched drunken random hookups between strangers that had god-only-knows-what-consequences. Being the stone cold sober person in a room full of intoxicated people night after night, year after year, is a real education and I can say with much certainty, many people do not factor their own safety in to a night out with friends. That's all I've been saying. And it wasn't to attack the OP, or even assume what happened to her, because even she doesn't know. But I sincerely hope everyone reading this takes a moment and thinks over what their responsibility to their own safety really, truly is. Because there are some real fucked up people out their, and they live to make others their victim. Why ever give them opportunity if it can be helped?
We have a winner! Finally, something I can agree with.............
I read the thread and am sorry to see some got nasty- no one deserves it. Part of your answer may be in this post to start: The total number of drinks. People do not all react to the same amount of alcohol before blacking out. Aside from being drugged deliberately, something we all fear but which occurs rarely by a stranger when you are clearly with someone and will leave with them ( thus leaving no opportunity for rape, MANY COMMON over the counter and prescription drugs lead to blackouts for some with as little as 3 drinks starting the process of cutting down oxygen carried in your blood. Ibuprophen even when in Midol or a mix for swollen or achy joints can do it. Prozac or Zoloft, Ambien and others that you may not have taken that day but still carry in your blood as it slowly decreases. I have seen patients. Come into the ER because they were walking around functioning and seeming drunk when a friend said, only 4 beers, and she opens a the cans and carries them around. Not drugged - but took Ibuprophen several times the day before and the same day, with what should be a safe dose every time. And drug screen. Shows only alcohol and Ibuprophen was in the blood. Did you take anything within 2 days before it happened? If so, this is a warning. I hope you can track down a cause. Not knowing is scary as hell. Sorry it happened. Feel better.
I guess you all are the experts at what goes on in bars, not me, despite my nearly 20 years in the business.
You all are right. People should go through life however they choose then stand back and let victimization wash all over them instead of trying their hardest to avoid fucked up situations as best as possible. Sure.
Meanwhile, I'll be trying to decide how best to deal with the likes of many of you. Because I'm often the one dealing with drunken, unruly young women, attempting to do the right thing after they've been abandoned in the bar by their "friends." Hmm, girl can't tell me her name or where she lives, should I put her in a cab? Hmm, maybe call detox so she can wake up scared, hung over, alone in a strange place with a big ass bill to pay? Do I let her wander off in to the cold, dark night likes she's drunkenly reminded me repeatedly is her right? Do I let the strange guy take her home, since he's truly "only trying to help." Because this is reality. In every town and city, most weekends of the year. It might not be y'all's reality but I invite you to go to the club and not drink. Just watch. Learn. It'll make your head spin.
When you've pulled enough vomit covered chicks out of the bathroom after last call, waited for detox to show up, dealt with the police enough times in date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc., come tell me that people should be able to behave however they'd like with alcohol, consequence free.
Someone can be clutching their drink 100% of the time and still get drugged. In a crowded bar, people bump into each other all the time. It would be easy to run into someone and put something in their drink while you're doing the whole slam into them/apologize maneuver. Or, someone bumps into them from the side, they glance that way to say, "It's okay. No problem," and another person on their other side puts the drug in their drink. You cannot look at your glass 100% of the time, even if you're holding it.
I'm not even going to touch the victim blaming. Yes, you need to be aware of your surroundings, but that doesn't mean it's anyone's fault OTHER THAN THE CRIMINAL if someone ends up raped, drugged, etc.
It doesn't even surprise me that she's saying these things. Everyone else is wrong; she's always right. Blah blah fucking blah.
I know you decided against going to the hospital, but I would still recommend doing so, or at least seeing your regular physician. Here is why:
While it's too late to determine if the episode was caused by a drug, it would be worth explaining your symptoms to a doctor. There could be an underlying condition that either caused the episode or was exacerbated by the alcohol.
I am NOT saying you weren't drugged; I'm simply offering another explanation because I care about your health and want you explore every possibility. Make sure to stress that you've had alcohol before and this was NOT a normal response.
I guess you all are the experts at what goes on in bars, not me, despite my nearly 20 years in the business.
You all are right. People should go through life however they choose then stand back and let victimization wash all over them instead of trying their hardest to avoid fucked up situations as best as possible. Sure.
Meanwhile, I'll be trying to decide how best to deal with the likes of many of you. Because I'm often the one dealing with drunken, unruly young women, attempting to do the right thing after they've been abandoned in the bar by their "friends." Hmm, girl can't tell me her name or where she lives, should I put her in a cab? Hmm, maybe call detox so she can wake up scared, hung over, alone in a strange place with a big ass bill to pay? Do I let her wander off in to the cold, dark night likes she's drunkenly reminded me repeatedly is her right? Do I let the strange guy take her home, since he's truly "only trying to help." Because this is reality. In every town and city, most weekends of the year. It might not be y'all's reality but I invite you to go to the club and not drink. Just watch. Learn. It'll make your head spin.
When you've pulled enough vomit covered chicks out of the bathroom after last call, waited for detox to show up, dealt with the police enough times in date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc., come tell me that people should be able to behave however they'd like with alcohol, consequence free.
Good luck with it. You'll fucking need it.
I AM the police who deals with the date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc. We are not disputing the fact that many people don't take care of themselves they way they should when they're drinking. WE ARE disputing the tone of your posts when you make it sound like the OP should've just known better and protected herself more.
I get it. It sucks dealing with the same things over and over, every single night. Lordy lordy, do I get it. But if you can't muster up a bit of compassion, maybe it's time to find a job that actually lets you have a soul.
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
Re: Someone On My Side?
OP, I'm glad that you are feeling okay-ish today, and agree with other posters that you really should see a doctor. I'm sorry that an ignorant, piece of shit troll made you feel bad, and like you shouldn't seek medical help.
I can imagine you feel violated in some way, as you should because some creepy fucker may have slipped you something.
If you go to the ER today what are you hoping to accomplish? Let's say that you test positive from some drug that you didn't take yourself. Now what? If you're invested enough to try to get this incident to the police or the bar owner then proceed, sure.
In a perfect world the bar will have surveillance footage, someone will sit through an hour or so of footage watching you, your drink(s), and everyone who came near it, then by a stroke of extreme luck the camera catches said creeper taking out a pill/powder/tincture, his/her face, the act of he or she putting it in your drink, your drinking the drink, etc. What are the odds?
I run a bar. Our cameras are not there for the consumer, they are there to protect our assets. Meaning they are located over cash registers, store rooms, liquor storage, coolers and offices. This is the arrangement in most bars with cameras. Sure, we have other cameras in other places, but it's rare they ever catch anything nefarious in great detail. And rarely, if ever, is the footage good enough to use in prosecution. So my question really goes back to how much effort do you want to put into this seriously?
Be thankful you got home safely with your FI and not the drug-wielding creeper. Be thankful you feel okay this morning. And never, EVER leave your drink out of your sight or unattended ever, ever again. Because unless it was the bartender, you should have physical control over your beverage at all times. It's a sad world that we need to be that vigilant at all times, but that's just a fact. I watch women (and men) many nights of the week leave their drinks on the bar or at their table (usually with their purses too) to go to the bathroom or head to the dance floor and I get so damn frustrated. It's not that I don't want these women to be able to do this worry free, but it only takes a second to slip someone something and turn their night into a horror movie. Maybe I'm paranoid (okay, I am, I admit it) but I trust very few people and pretty much zero strangers.
Count your lucky stars you're okay, call the bar and let them know in case they have other similar complaints from last night, and try to do something today to take your mind off creepy fuckers who suck at life.
I want to know what bar you run so I can avoid it at all costs. A woman believes she was drugged in a bar and you're response is "So? What do you hope to accomplish?"
You wouldn't want to know if someone is targeting your patrons? Using your bar as their place to be a sexual predator? What the ever-loving-FUCK?
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In my line of work, it's not about what we want. Of course normal people who run bars/restaurants/venues don't want their patrons targeted for any number of reasons. I don't want run of the mill creepers, rapists, serial killers, pick pockets, thieves, gang bangers, 1%'ers, and a whole bunch of other fucktards who will ruin my night or anyone else's coming through the door.
People do not all react to the same amount of alcohol before blacking out. Aside from being drugged deliberately, something we all fear but which occurs rarely by a stranger when you are clearly with someone and will leave with them ( thus leaving no opportunity for rape, MANY COMMON over the counter and prescription drugs lead to blackouts for some with as little as 3 drinks starting the process of cutting down oxygen carried in your blood.
Ibuprophen even when in Midol or a mix for swollen or achy joints can do it. Prozac or Zoloft, Ambien and others that you may not have taken that day but still carry in your blood as it slowly decreases. I have seen patients. Come into the ER because they were walking around functioning and seeming drunk when a friend said, only 4 beers, and she opens a the cans and carries them around. Not drugged - but took Ibuprophen several times the day before and the same day, with what should be a safe dose every time. And drug screen. Shows only alcohol and Ibuprophen was in the blood.
Did you take anything within 2 days before it happened? If so, this is a warning.
I hope you can track down a cause. Not knowing is scary as hell.
Sorry it happened. Feel better.
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Formerly martha1818
ETA: until this vile waste decides to skaddadle on its own, if we ignore it, it will get bored and go away eventually.
I AM the police who deals with the date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc. We are not disputing the fact that many people don't take care of themselves they way they should when they're drinking. WE ARE disputing the tone of your posts when you make it sound like the OP should've just known better and protected herself more.
I get it. It sucks dealing with the same things over and over, every single night. Lordy lordy, do I get it. But if you can't muster up a bit of compassion, maybe it's time to find a job that actually lets you have a soul.
I'm the fuck out.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
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Why are you still here? Seriously. Why?
I'm the fuck out.