Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
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Why are you still here? Seriously. Why?
This is what I'm wondering... like, here's the thing. This is an internet community. Communities have norms. Communities attract like minded people. There are literally countless communities that subscribe to different sets of norms all over the internet (and in real life), so why is this person wasting her time railing against people who obviously just are not on the same page as her, for better or for worse? It would be like if someone was really anti-gay and came into this community and started saying a bunch of homophobic shit- that would not change anyone's mind, it would not add anything to the richness of discussion in this community, and on top of it all, it wouldn't even be that hard to find a different community that is open to that kind of nonsense, so why not just take it somewhere else?
I guess the only logical conclusion is that she enjoys being and antagonist. Which is annoying for us, but ultimately way more sad for her.
ETA: So overall my point is, in life sometimes you just don't click with a certain social group, and so you move on. No shame in that, and I don't see how this is any different. It's just embarrassing for her that she can't gracefully accept that she's not adding anything that the people here value and find other more receptive people to talk to.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
I'm just gonna put it out there that exposing people's info on TK, even if they are an asshole volcano, is not ok and will get you banned. I don't recommend it.
I'm just gonna put it out there that exposing people's info on TK, even if they are an asshole volcano, is not ok and will get you banned. I don't recommend it.
I would never do such a thing, just giving her a fair warning in a way that she would understand.
I'm just gonna put it out there that exposing people's info on TK, even if they are an asshole volcano, is not ok and will get you banned. I don't recommend it.
I never said I would do it
Don't worry, I know that. I don't think anyone who has participated in this conversation would. But, there are lots of lurkers on this site who have no scruples, and the reminder has to be put out every now and again.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
I'll be straight right back - I'm not the least bit concerned. If I were, I'd probably have used an assumed name. I don't scare easily. But I don't think veiled threats are allowed by TOS standards, are they?
Anyone that interested in weaseling their way in to my personal life needs a hobby. Seriously. Or they need to grow the fuck up. Or both.
I'm just gonna put it out there that exposing people's info on TK, even if they are an asshole volcano, is not ok and will get you banned. I don't recommend it.
I never said I would do it
Don't worry, I know that. I don't think anyone who has participated in this conversation would. But, there are lots of lurkers on this site who have no scruples, and the reminder has to be put out every now and again.
Exactly! It happens to trolls all the time on lots of different forums on the Internet. I could have put it sweeter, but I don't really care about the emotions of people perpetuating rape culture.
Do you guys remember when anonymous revealed the names and personal info of a big KKK website or something? I don't remember the exact info. There are a lot of online vigilantes that just love revenge.
Mods, I'm wondering- are trolls even allowed on the forums? What are the actual rules here?
Trolls are not allowed. She has been spoken to by an admin and felt that her bullshit doesn't meet the definition of trolling to her satisfaction.
Answers to her questions that do not justify her bullshit are not to her satisfaction.
Good thing I don't give a flying fuck about her satisfaction. There has been back-and-forth between mods and administration about her. It's being worked on. I know the ignore function doesn't work flawlessly right now, but the best way to shut her the fuck up is to not respond to the shit-spatter that comes from her keyboard, or test the ignore function out.
I know it is really hard to ignore her incendiary garbage, I have a hard time with it too, but she'll be gone soon enough. Eyes on the prize, babies. It's going to be a good fucking day.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
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Why are you still here? Seriously. Why?
This is what I'm wondering... like, here's the thing. This is an internet community. Communities have norms. Communities attract like minded people. There are literally countless communities that subscribe to different sets of norms all over the internet (and in real life), so why is this person wasting her time railing against people who obviously just are not on the same page as her, for better or for worse? It would be like if someone was really anti-gay and came into this community and started saying a bunch of homophobic shit- that would not change anyone's mind, it would not add anything to the richness of discussion in this community, and on top of it all, it wouldn't even be that hard to find a different community that is open to that kind of nonsense, so why not just take it somewhere else?
I guess the only logical conclusion is that she enjoys being and antagonist. Which is annoying for us, but ultimately way more sad for her.
ETA: So overall my point is, in life sometimes you just don't click with a certain social group, and so you move on. No shame in that, and I don't see how this is any different. It's just embarrassing for her that she can't gracefully accept that she's not adding anything that the people here value and find other more receptive people to talk to.
That's the thing that annoys me the most out of any of it. This is an awesome community, with people who have tons of different opinions. I love hearing the different opinions. I even love when people flat-out disagree with me cuz it makes me think of other perspectives, and I love the discussions that ensue.
But when you come in here spewing trash-filled ignorant bullshit that is so extremely harmful to people (and I can't even tell you how raged out I am about how the OP said this garbage affected her in a negative way) then you need to get the fuck out. Seriously. There is no room for that level of vile fucktardery, and you need. To fucking. Leave. Like yesterday.
(Obviously I mean the hypothetical "you" and we all know who that is aimed at, I don't mean "you" as in you, themosthappy91)
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I guess you all are the experts at what goes on in bars, not me, despite my nearly 20 years in the business.
You all are right. People should go through life however they choose then stand back and let victimization wash all over them instead of trying their hardest to avoid fucked up situations as best as possible. Sure.
Meanwhile, I'll be trying to decide how best to deal with the likes of many of you. Because I'm often the one dealing with drunken, unruly young women, attempting to do the right thing after they've been abandoned in the bar by their "friends." Hmm, girl can't tell me her name or where she lives, should I put her in a cab? Hmm, maybe call detox so she can wake up scared, hung over, alone in a strange place with a big ass bill to pay? Do I let her wander off in to the cold, dark night likes she's drunkenly reminded me repeatedly is her right? Do I let the strange guy take her home, since he's truly "only trying to help." Because this is reality. In every town and city, most weekends of the year. It might not be y'all's reality but I invite you to go to the club and not drink. Just watch. Learn. It'll make your head spin.
When you've pulled enough vomit covered chicks out of the bathroom after last call, waited for detox to show up, dealt with the police enough times in date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc., come tell me that people should be able to behave however they'd like with alcohol, consequence free.
Good luck with it. You'll fucking need it.
Yeah, because you are the only one who has worked in a bar. You are the only one here who could ever possibly know what drunk people are like.
I guess you all are the experts at what goes on in bars, not me, despite my nearly 20 years in the business.
You all are right. People should go through life however they choose then stand back and let victimization wash all over them instead of trying their hardest to avoid fucked up situations as best as possible. Sure.
Meanwhile, I'll be trying to decide how best to deal with the likes of many of you. Because I'm often the one dealing with drunken, unruly young women, attempting to do the right thing after they've been abandoned in the bar by their "friends." Hmm, girl can't tell me her name or where she lives, should I put her in a cab? Hmm, maybe call detox so she can wake up scared, hung over, alone in a strange place with a big ass bill to pay? Do I let her wander off in to the cold, dark night likes she's drunkenly reminded me repeatedly is her right? Do I let the strange guy take her home, since he's truly "only trying to help." Because this is reality. In every town and city, most weekends of the year. It might not be y'all's reality but I invite you to go to the club and not drink. Just watch. Learn. It'll make your head spin.
When you've pulled enough vomit covered chicks out of the bathroom after last call, waited for detox to show up, dealt with the police enough times in date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc., come tell me that people should be able to behave however they'd like with alcohol, consequence free.
Good luck with it. You'll fucking need it.
Yeah, because you are the only one who has worked in a bar. You are the only one here who could ever possibly know what drunk people are like.
And it's not even what the OP was asking! She never said "hey guys, think I got drugged. Whoopsie doodles, must not have been paying attention. Did anyone know it's a dumb idea to let a strange man watch my drink while I go to the bathroom?" For crying out loud, she's not stupid.
Yea, censoring dissenting opinions on the Internet is totally the way to go! What a fucking joke! Thumbs up!
You should funnel your totally justified anger into a letter to your congressman, because your first amendment rights are being violated! Serves us all right, how dare we censor your troll bullshit. How fucking dare we? We will surely learn a great lesson from this.
OP, all I can say is that I hope that seeing how EVERYONE reacted with disgust to those extremely ignorant, harmful, victim-blaming comments by one very unfortunate poster helps you realize that insinuating in anyway that you did something wrong in your situation is just false and awful.
You did nothing wrong. You have nothing to feel embarrassed or guilty about. I understand those feelings, because I felt the same way when my ex broke into my house and attacked me-- that I had somehow let it happen and should have done more-- but in reality it was 110% his fault for being such a psycho. You are amazing, and you did nothing wrong. I hope you're feeling better.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
That's what I was implying and how I took your comment! I thought maybe the way I wrote it would give her some perspective, but she's too stupid.
I'm not even going to quote the bullshit that I will be referring to in this post. I felt like I was about to vomit reading all of your posts everhart. You say some of the most vile and disgusting things I have ever heard and read.
First of all, everyone knows they should be aware of their surroundings and vigilant in situations that could be unsafe. We know that. Everyone gets that. The difference is when you are in a situation and you think you're safe but it turns out you're not. People get taken advantage of all the time.
I hope I never set foot in your bar if you say you have WITNESSED this type of victimization on many accounts but never did anything to step in. You could have called the asshole out, you could have take someone's drink and replaced it with another, you could warn the person before leaving with someone you know will hurt them.
And yes, trolling is against TOS and when you admit that you say things that are controversial or that your know will get people riled up, that's called stirring the pot, that is trolling. Whether you agree with the definition as deemed by TK is against the issue. I disagree with a few laws on the books but I follow them regardless because you know what? Those are the laws. The TOS are the only rules that have to be followed around here, even if you disagree with the definition of the word.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
Yeah, the same thought crossed my mind. Some messed up shit has happened for way, way less.
Everhart through all your bullshit posts not a one conveys a "sorry that happened to you" or any empathy whatsoever. If this were a discussion on rape culture without any reference to a specific circumstance, things would be a little different but this is a post from someone that just had this happen to them and this is not appropriate at all.
Like, if someone were to post that their house burned down would you be posting well gosh, didn't you know that Christmas trees start fires all the time and you shouldn't forget to turn the lights off? Without knowing if that's even what happened? Seriously, fuck off.
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mrs4everhart Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to. In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
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It's absolutely poor taste. By everything that has been discussed here, being any kind of victim isn't a joking matter. Whether you're actually wishing it on her deep down or not, you still said it would be the best kind of karma. So slow your roll.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
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It's absolutely poor taste. By everything that has been discussed here, being any kind of victim isn't a joking matter. Whether you're actually wishing it on her deep down or not, you still said it would be the best kind of karma. So slow your roll.
You what's in poor taste? Your victim blaming bullshit statement "Use it as a learning experience. You probably don't need eight drinks in a night. Watch your drinks and your company."
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions.
It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves.
That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone.
I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll.
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It's absolutely poor taste. By everything that has been discussed here, being any kind of victim isn't a joking matter. Whether you're actually wishing it on her deep down or not, you still said it would be the best kind of karma. So slow your roll.
I've been silent on this so far because almost everyone has said what I would have said. OP, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I can't imagine how scary that was for you. I agree with PP that you should still consider letting a doctor check you out.
To the above, I have seen things said in this thread that were extremely hurtful, ignorant and in 'poor taste' that are far worse than just saying someone should get a taste of their own medicine. If it's in poor taste for someone to experience what they're actually preaching, then so be it. I've never claimed to be the most tasteful of this group. In my opinion, it's far worse to approach someone who was violated against and say "Well that's what you get for acting like a raging alcohlic by having more than one glass of wine in an evening." Why don't we just tell a rape victim "Well stop looking like a slut and offenders won't bother you."
I feel like you're in a way telling us to not stoop to others' levels, and no, two wrongs do not make a right, but I feel like you're pointing a finger at the wrong person here.
Hugs to the OP. Hope you are feeling better. Please stop being embarrassed. You went through something scary and tons of women on here came to tell you - IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT and we are behind you.
I also just want to point out that many people in the bar and restaurant business have love and compassion for their clients. I happen to have met my boss and my husband at the same bar. It's owned by a family, the bartenders are long time employees - and they all take a personal interest in the safety of their staff and patrons. Many of the regulars stay late to walk the bartenders to their cars. Many of the bartenders will cover drinks if they are left unattended. When someone can't drive and is trying to make the wrong decision by doing so - a friendly ride is often offered or a phone call is made to make sure they get home with a loved one.
I was drunk as shit Saturday night - and winning hundreds of dollars at some of the state lottery game. So cash and drink in hand as my husband was on the other side of the bar - I'm sure I could have looked like an easy target. And guess what? I never once felt unsafe. Know why? I know that even at my worst, I am surrounded by the best. And god forbid something should happen to me or someone else there - it wouldn't be with some bitch like everhart watching from behind the bar and blaming me.
Hugs to the OP. Hope you are feeling better. Please stop being embarrassed. You went through something scary and tons of women on here came to tell you - IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT and we are behind you.
I also just want to point out that many people in the bar and restaurant business have love and compassion for their clients. I happen to have met my boss and my husband at the same bar. It's owned by a family, the bartenders are long time employees - and they all take a personal interest in the safety of their staff and patrons. Many of the regulars stay late to walk the bartenders to their cars. Many of the bartenders will cover drinks if they are left unattended. When someone can't drive and is trying to make the wrong decision by doing so - a friendly ride is often offered or a phone call is made to make sure they get home with a loved one.
I was drunk as shit Saturday night - and winning hundreds of dollars at some of the state lottery game. So cash and drink in hand as my husband was on the other side of the bar - I'm sure I could have looked like an easy target. And guess what? I never once felt unsafe. Know why? I know that even at my worst, I am surrounded by the best. And god forbid something should happen to me or someone else there - it wouldn't be with some bitch like everhart watching from behind the bar and blaming me.
I'm glad you brought this up because it's so true. I worked as a bartender for a while. I took a serious interest in the safety of the people who came to that bar, as did the other employees, whether those patrons were regulars or not. A lady once came in who had one drink and there was a bad interaction with her medication, so she could hardly stand up. Luckily her friend was there to drive her home, but the manager was worried about this lady getting down the front stairs safely, so I watched him pick her up and carry her (she was a regular and they all knew each other pretty well, so she really appreciated the lift lol) and make sure she was in the car safely and buckled in before he came back inside. This was just one of so so so very many examples.
People who have character, morals, a conscience, and a heart, don't just stand back as a bartender and watch women get drugged and/or attacked and say "whoops! too bad! But I see it all the time so no big deal." If you see it all the time then you should be reporting it all the time and intervening all the time. Or you're just a vile piece of shit with no soul. But that's just my opinion.
@novella1186, I think what she was talking about was that she sees unattended drinks all the time. At least that looked like part of what she was saying.
@novella1186, I think what she was talking about was that she sees unattended drinks all the time. At least that looked like part of what she was saying.
Either way, the troll has been vanquished.
To be honest, it got to the point that I skimmed over most of what she was saying because I didn't feel like having my brain assaulted with such dumbassery.
I'm late to this, but I just have a couple of things to say.
I'd like to repeat the support that has been thrown your way. I've never been drugged so I don't know first hand what it feels like, BUT your initial post immediately made me think "Drugged". You chose not to go get tested, but it might be a good idea to see a doctor to rule out something medical, just in case. It might also help with your peace of mind if it turns out to be something medical as opposed to a more nefarious situation. Mrsdee, you have absolutely 0 reason, none whatsoever, to be ashamed or embarrassed. I think it is brave you shared your story, and may help somebody else who gets in a future situation like this to have seen the advice in this thread so far. I'm sending you all of the love and hugs I can through this post. I'm glad this has generated some good conversation between you and your FI, and I'm so glad he's being supportive and understanding. I'm also glad that the overwhelming majority of theknotties have rallied to give your their support as well.
I will also add, everhart, I think you are a monster. I've only been on the forums for a couple of months, and have spent most of that time lurking. The first few times I saw a lot of hate poured at you, I did some digging and read some past posts of yours. I went from "Meh - I don't understand why everybody is so mean to this chick.... she threw herself a PPD, whatevs. I don't have the time or energy to be invested in having an opinion." to "Wow. This woman spends so much time spewing negativity, shrouded in long winded posts and haughty 'I'm an adult, I'm above all this' rhetoric." to "Wow. This woman is truly a wretched human being." Why are you even here? I feel like everything you post is a giant attention seeking "LOOK AT ME GUYS! OVER HERE! LOOK LOOK LOOK!!!!!!" at best and a giant setback for women/slap in the face at worst. I hate to even add to ANY of the attention given to you in this thread already, but I had to address this. I actually went from actively TRYING to like you because I felt so many were dog-piled on the everhart hate wagon, but you seriously make it next to impossible. So seriously. Get off of your sanctimonious, self-righteous high horse. Discard that soap box. And seriously, go away. I've not seen a single post by you that is helpful in any way. By and large, I've seen time and again that this is a very supportive community, and you are an absolute scab.
I guess you all are the experts at what goes on in bars, not me, despite my nearly 20 years in the business.
You all are right. People should go through life however they choose then stand back and let victimization wash all over them instead of trying their hardest to avoid fucked up situations as best as possible. Sure.
Meanwhile, I'll be trying to decide how best to deal with the likes of many of you. Because I'm often the one dealing with drunken, unruly young women, attempting to do the right thing after they've been abandoned in the bar by their "friends." Hmm, girl can't tell me her name or where she lives, should I put her in a cab? Hmm, maybe call detox so she can wake up scared, hung over, alone in a strange place with a big ass bill to pay? Do I let her wander off in to the cold, dark night likes she's drunkenly reminded me repeatedly is her right? Do I let the strange guy take her home, since he's truly "only trying to help." Because this is reality. In every town and city, most weekends of the year. It might not be y'all's reality but I invite you to go to the club and not drink. Just watch. Learn. It'll make your head spin.
When you've pulled enough vomit covered chicks out of the bathroom after last call, waited for detox to show up, dealt with the police enough times in date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc., come tell me that people should be able to behave however they'd like with alcohol, consequence free.
Good luck with it. You'll fucking need it.
I AM the police who deals with the date rape cases, assaults and batteries, thefts, brawls, etc. We are not disputing the fact that many people don't take care of themselves they way they should when they're drinking. WE ARE disputing the tone of your posts when you make it sound like the OP should've just known better and protected herself more.
I get it. It sucks dealing with the same things over and over, every single night. Lordy lordy, do I get it. But if you can't muster up a bit of compassion, maybe it's time to find a job that actually lets you have a soul.
Officer Composer, THANK YOU!!!!!!
I can't love this post enough. Bless you.
And as soon as I read the first line I pictured this, lol
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
@novella1186, I think what she was talking about was that she sees unattended drinks all the time. At least that looked like part of what she was saying.
Re: Someone On My Side?
I'm the fuck out.
I'm the fuck out.
I'll be straight right back - I'm not the least bit concerned. If I were, I'd probably have used an assumed name. I don't scare easily. But I don't think veiled threats are allowed by TOS standards, are they?
Anyone that interested in weaseling their way in to my personal life needs a hobby. Seriously. Or they need to grow the fuck up. Or both.
Exactly! It happens to trolls all the time on lots of different forums on the Internet. I could have put it sweeter, but I don't really care about the emotions of people perpetuating rape culture.
Do you guys remember when anonymous revealed the names and personal info of a big KKK website or something? I don't remember the exact info. There are a lot of online vigilantes that just love revenge.
I'm the fuck out.
Just going to be straight with you, because this has happened before. People have posted on here, pissed of the ladies here and personal information has leaked, and shit has gone down. There are a lot of computer savvy people here. I am just helping you to avoid fucked up situations. Because it is your job to make sure you don't piss off internet people who can figure out who you are pretty easily, and get to your facebook and anyone on your friend's list and figure out who you are married to.
In my 20+ years of experience with internet, I can't sit here and let you allow victimization eventually wash over you when you push people too far who can easily access your shit. You are asking for your personal information being leaked by just being here with stupid opinions. It really would be the best karma though...her being victimized after complaining victims are really just sabatoging themselves. That is horrible. That kind of comment is much worse than one person having a differing opinion than you. Absolutely atrocious to wish that kind of ill upon someone. I'm just saying it would be ironic if someone found her info online and shared it because according to her logic, that would be her own fault, right? Am I going to do that? No. Am I wishing any kind of ill-will on her, even though she is an asshat? No. So slow your roll. <p><p> It's absolutely poor taste. By everything that has been discussed here, being any kind of victim isn't a joking matter. Whether you're actually wishing it on her deep down or not, you still said it would be the best kind of karma. So slow your roll.
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My preemptive strike against not having boxes.
I've been silent on this so far because almost everyone has said what I would have said. OP, I'm so sorry this happened to you. I can't imagine how scary that was for you. I agree with PP that you should still consider letting a doctor check you out.
To the above, I have seen things said in this thread that were extremely hurtful, ignorant and in 'poor taste' that are far worse than just saying someone should get a taste of their own medicine. If it's in poor taste for someone to experience what they're actually preaching, then so be it. I've never claimed to be the most tasteful of this group. In my opinion, it's far worse to approach someone who was violated against and say "Well that's what you get for acting like a raging alcohlic by having more than one glass of wine in an evening." Why don't we just tell a rape victim "Well stop looking like a slut and offenders won't bother you."
I feel like you're in a way telling us to not stoop to others' levels, and no, two wrongs do not make a right, but I feel like you're pointing a finger at the wrong person here.
Either way, the troll has been vanquished.
I'm the fuck out.
I'd like to repeat the support that has been thrown your way. I've never been drugged so I don't know first hand what it feels like, BUT your initial post immediately made me think "Drugged". You chose not to go get tested, but it might be a good idea to see a doctor to rule out something medical, just in case. It might also help with your peace of mind if it turns out to be something medical as opposed to a more nefarious situation.
Mrsdee, you have absolutely 0 reason, none whatsoever, to be ashamed or embarrassed. I think it is brave you shared your story, and may help somebody else who gets in a future situation like this to have seen the advice in this thread so far. I'm sending you all of the love and hugs I can through this post. I'm glad this has generated some good conversation between you and your FI, and I'm so glad he's being supportive and understanding. I'm also glad that the overwhelming majority of theknotties have rallied to give your their support as well.
I will also add, everhart, I think you are a monster. I've only been on the forums for a couple of months, and have spent most of that time lurking. The first few times I saw a lot of hate poured at you, I did some digging and read some past posts of yours. I went from "Meh - I don't understand why everybody is so mean to this chick.... she threw herself a PPD, whatevs. I don't have the time or energy to be invested in having an opinion." to "Wow. This woman spends so much time spewing negativity, shrouded in long winded posts and haughty 'I'm an adult, I'm above all this' rhetoric." to "Wow. This woman is truly a wretched human being."
Why are you even here? I feel like everything you post is a giant attention seeking "LOOK AT ME GUYS! OVER HERE! LOOK LOOK LOOK!!!!!!" at best and a giant setback for women/slap in the face at worst. I hate to even add to ANY of the attention given to you in this thread already, but I had to address this. I actually went from actively TRYING to like you because I felt so many were dog-piled on the everhart hate wagon, but you seriously make it next to impossible. So seriously. Get off of your sanctimonious, self-righteous high horse. Discard that soap box. And seriously, go away. I've not seen a single post by you that is helpful in any way. By and large, I've seen time and again that this is a very supportive community, and you are an absolute scab.
I can't love this post enough. Bless you.
And as soon as I read the first line I pictured this, lol
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."