Anyone watch Pretty Little Liars? POSSIBLE SPOILERS

littlepep · March 2015

hicoco said:
@knotriley, love your GIF! haha! That's a really interesting idea and I hadn't heard it before..I feel like it could even fit with Toby hating the girls because he lost his mom, maybe Mrs. D wasn't there for her. MAYBE Toby and Bethany were twins and Mrs. D and Toby's mom were sisters!! That would make some sense.

That's interesting. I've definitely thought that could be a possibility. I just feel like there are so many loose ends I have no idea how they will tie it together.

Like what about Sarah Harvey? And who the hell is Bethany anyway?

blabla89 · March 2015

littlepep said:

hicoco said:
@knotriley, love your GIF! haha! That's a really interesting idea and I hadn't heard it before..I feel like it could even fit with Toby hating the girls because he lost his mom, maybe Mrs. D wasn't there for her. MAYBE Toby and Bethany were twins and Mrs. D and Toby's mom were sisters!! That would make some sense.
That's interesting. I've definitely thought that could be a possibility. I just feel like there are so many loose ends I have no idea how they will tie it together.

Like what about Sarah Harvey? And who the hell is Bethany anyway?

Yeah, that was weird. We haven't heard anything about Sarah Harvey before or since, have we?

GoldenPenguin · March 2015

What about Jenna?! She's been non-existent lately, but the whole thing against the Liars was because of what they "did" to Jenna, remember? And isn't Toby Jenna's brother?

blabla89 · March 2015

GoldenPenguin said:
What about Jenna?! She's been non-existent lately, but the whole thing against the Liars was because of what they "did" to Jenna, remember? And isn't Toby Jenna's brother?

He's her stepbrother, but he hated her because she made him have sex with her or something. She started going blind again (ostensibly making her less of a "threat" to the Liars) but it is weird that she hasn't been around since the Christmas party.

littlepep · March 2015

blabla89 said:

GoldenPenguin said:
What about Jenna?! She's been non-existent lately, but the whole thing against the Liars was because of what they "did" to Jenna, remember? And isn't Toby Jenna's brother?
He's her stepbrother, but he hated her because she made him have sex with her or something. She started going blind again (ostensibly making her less of a "threat" to the Liars) but it is weird that she hasn't been around since the Christmas party.

I think part of that was because the actress had a baby. I also think that weird girl Sydney that looks like Jenna is super sketchy. I mean what's her deal? The clearly picked her because she looks like Jenna. I feel like Jenna has more of a purpose in the story. At least I hope.

blabla89 · March 2015

littlepep said:

blabla89 said:

GoldenPenguin said:
What about Jenna?! She's been non-existent lately, but the whole thing against the Liars was because of what they "did" to Jenna, remember? And isn't Toby Jenna's brother?
He's her stepbrother, but he hated her because she made him have sex with her or something. She started going blind again (ostensibly making her less of a "threat" to the Liars) but it is weird that she hasn't been around since the Christmas party.
I think part of that was because the actress had a baby. I also think that weird girl Sydney that looks like Jenna is super sketchy. I mean what's her deal? The clearly picked her because she looks like Jenna. I feel like Jenna has more of a purpose in the story. At least I hope.

Oh yeah...Sydney weirds me the fuck out. Did they ever find out what she was doing in the woods with Jenna?

GoldenPenguin · March 2015

Agreed about Sydney. There had to be more to that whole thing.

thisismynickname2 · March 2015

You guys are bringing up names that make me think, "Who? What?" That's how confused I am. People actually make spreadsheets over this? I don't blame them much....

knottie9c5ed33df4bbd226 · March 2015

I still don't know who Sarah Harvey is. How did I miss that?

littlepep · March 2015

thisismynickname said:
You guys are bringing up names that make me think, "Who? What?" That's how confused I am. People actually make spreadsheets over this? I don't blame them much....

Ha I know. I can't keep up. When the bloggers write about, remember in Season 2, Episode 13 blah, blah, blah happened. I'm like what?! No. I mean these people must seriously re-watch every episode.

Maybe once it's all said and done, I'll re-watch, but I don't see a point now.

blabla89 · March 2015

@hicoco she was the another girl who disappeared, and the Liars met up with her four friends. IIRC they were trying to figure out who was buried in Allison's grave so they looked up other girls who had disappeared.

lovegood90 · March 2015

Um. .so what the hell WAS that?!

AlexisA01 · March 2015

I'm very pissed....who is Charles and wtf....

blabla89 · March 2015

I had a feeling it would be a cop out with the twin theory - but admittedly it wasn't in the way I expected. Didn't watch the episodes but my facebook is currently exploding...so much for no spoilers.

ETA: I am curious to see how they wrap it all up and whether they really do tie up all the loose ends. And I'm kind of bummed that there are only 10 more episodes.

emmaaa · March 2015

I immediately said, "Who the fuck is Charles?!"

It is interesting and apparently there is a whole story of why he hates everyone?

And I'm guessing he is Jason's twin, is that right? Maybe his parents were ashamed of him because he was "deformed" and that's why he wears a mask and is obsessed with Phantom of the Opera?

thisismynickname2 · March 2015

Yeah it looks to me like this Charles guy is Jason's twin.

Think all five girls will get out of jail now that they've seen Mona alive? Or is Tanner gonna be all, "Oh, I'm sure they faked this and this was before she was killed." These cops are nuts.

littlepep · March 2015

I am so confused by the whole thing. I need to read the internet, but I've already seen some bizarre theories.

I really hope Charles is someone we know, but I feel like a lot of those older guys are dead. ha.

knottie9c5ed33df4bbd226 · March 2015

Right before we saw the home video, I was wondering if it was going to be Ian. It's got to be Jason's twin or maybe Jason's twin/brother died and Jason has a split personality now? Also, what's Andrew's connection? His family must own that farm (his last name is Campbell).

lovegood90 · March 2015

I read a theory that Charles is Jason's twin, but he always wanted to be a girl but his father wouldn't have it. So his family sent him to Radley and he became Bethany...and that's why he hates Alison because she has the life he wanted..and that's why there's a whole dollhouse obsession? Hmmm...so many theories out there!

littlepep · March 2015

lovegood90 said:
I read a theory that Charles is Jason's twin, but he always wanted to be a girl but his father wouldn't have it. So his family sent him to Radley and he became Bethany...and that's why he hates Alison because she has the life he wanted..and that's why there's a whole dollhouse obsession? Hmmm...so many theories out there!

I've read variations of this theory. It's just doesn't click with me. Bethany is the dead girl in the grave so she's a different person. I guess I could buy the theory that Charles wanted to be a girl and that's why he hates Alison, but it just seems off. Are we really thinking Mr and Mrs D are that terrible to send their kid away for wanting to be a girl? And the kids in that video were at least 3 so presumably Jason remembers having a twin.

littlepep · March 2015

hicoco said:
Right before we saw the home video, I was wondering if it was going to be Ian. It's got to be Jason's twin or maybe Jason's twin/brother died and Jason has a split personality now? Also, what's Andrew's connection? His family must own that farm (his last name is Campbell).

Yeah he has some relation, but I still think he's just a minion. No way he is Charles because if Charles is Jason's twin that makes him Spencer's half sister. And Andrew had a thing with Spencer a while back.

knottie9c5ed33df4bbd226 · March 2015

I don't think PLL will go that route..maybe they will, but I would be surprised. That's pretty heavy. Right now I am thinking it's going to be the exact same as the book but with Jason instead of Alison. I can see the twin going after Ali and Spencer (his sisters), but not the other girls. What's the motive?

blabla89 · March 2015

hicoco said:
I don't think PLL will go that route..maybe they will, but I would be surprised. That's pretty heavy. Right now I am thinking it's going to be the exact same as the book but with Jason instead of Alison. I can see the twin going after Ali and Spencer (his sisters), but not the other girls. What's the motive?

My guess is it will have something to do with the parents and taking it out on the girls.

ETA: I hope we're going to find out more of the parents' secrets, because I find it intriguing and it seems like they have a lot of them.

knottie9c5ed33df4bbd226 · March 2015

Sort of like a Freddy Krueger type thing haha!

GoldenPenguin · March 2015

I felt like the episode itself was really well done, but the "GIANT A REVEAL" was a huge letdown.

I hope "Charles" is actually someone we actually know, because if not, it's going to be really dumb - what has his motivation been this whole time?

psiloveyouu · March 2015

littlepep said:

lovegood90 said:
I read a theory that Charles is Jason's twin, but he always wanted to be a girl but his father wouldn't have it. So his family sent him to Radley and he became Bethany...and that's why he hates Alison because she has the life he wanted..and that's why there's a whole dollhouse obsession? Hmmm...so many theories out there!
I've read variations of this theory. It's just doesn't click with me. Bethany is the dead girl in the grave so she's a different person. I guess I could buy the theory that Charles wanted to be a girl and that's why he hates Alison, but it just seems off. Are we really thinking Mr and Mrs D are that terrible to send their kid away for wanting to be a girl? And the kids in that video were at least 3 so presumably Jason remembers having a twin.

My first thought after watching was that Charles identified as a girl and became "Bethany." I see what you're saying about a dead body being a grave, but if Bethany was reported missing and then found dead why have we never seen what she looks like? None of it adds up to me, I'm interested to see where they'll take this.

littlepep · March 2015

GoldenPenguin said:
I felt like the episode itself was really well done, but the "GIANT A REVEAL" was a huge letdown.

I hope "Charles" is actually someone we actually know, because if not, it's going to be really dumb - what has his motivation been this whole time?

I was more pumped that Mona was alive than anything else haha. Crazy Mona brings me so much joy!

littlepep · March 2015

psiloveyouu said:

littlepep said:

lovegood90 said:
I read a theory that Charles is Jason's twin, but he always wanted to be a girl but his father wouldn't have it. So his family sent him to Radley and he became Bethany...and that's why he hates Alison because she has the life he wanted..and that's why there's a whole dollhouse obsession? Hmmm...so many theories out there!
I've read variations of this theory. It's just doesn't click with me. Bethany is the dead girl in the grave so she's a different person. I guess I could buy the theory that Charles wanted to be a girl and that's why he hates Alison, but it just seems off. Are we really thinking Mr and Mrs D are that terrible to send their kid away for wanting to be a girl? And the kids in that video were at least 3 so presumably Jason remembers having a twin.
My first thought after watching was that Charles identified as a girl and became "Bethany." I see what you're saying about a dead body being a grave, but if Bethany was reported missing and then found dead why have we never seen what she looks like? None of it adds up to me, I'm interested to see where they'll take this.

Agreed. There's so much confusion left still.

emmaaa · March 2015

Oh yeah! I was excited Mona was still alive!

thisismynickname2 · March 2015

I also want to say that the entire episode was creepy as hell.

- Walled in: creepy

- Mona with a mask: creepy

- Mona acting like Ali/Stepford Wife: creepy

- Watching while you sleep: creepy

- MANNEQUINS AT PROM: CREEPY

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