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  • sarawifenowsarawifenow member
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    edited April 2015
    MagicInk said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 


    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)




    I am fine with plays that feature nudity. For me it is absolutely the context of the strip club. I view plays as I view tv and movies with nudity--those are actors on the stage/screen. In a strip club, they are real women who are there for the sole purpose of sexual entertainment.

     

    I do want to say that I have absolutely nothing against strippers. They have way more confidence and skill then I ever could!

     

    Edited because words are hard.

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  • chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?


    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
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  • MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 


    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 


    Sounds more like you have a problem with the shitty men you're (or your FI) is friends with then the strip clubs and strippers in them.

    I have never picked up a girl at a strip club to fuck her. The strippers I worked with did not go home with dudes from the club cause that's an excellent way to get your self killed/raped/chained up in someone's basement as a pet.

    That guy, bragging about banging strippers, he'd do the same to any woman. He doesn't respect women. They're sexual objects available for the taking. All women. Sex workers are just the easiest to treat like garbage. Society already views them as such.
    Like I said in my initial post -- the strip club thing is a red herring. It's rarely ever really about that, but it makes a nice excuse.
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  • MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.


    Extremely. 
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  • MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?


    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 


    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 
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  • MadHops21MadHops21 member
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    edited April 2015
    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.

    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
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  • MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 


    These guys are fucking disgusting and don't respect women. I can't believe you interact with them and are fine with your FI interacting with them. This is just fucking disgusting.
  • sarawifenowsarawifenow member
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    edited April 2015
    littlepep said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 


    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 




    ETF There should be a box here-------------------------------------------------------

     

    Yeah but are they consenting to having there picture sent to all of the guys' friends?

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  • MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    These guys are fucking disgusting and don't respect women. I can't believe you interact with them and are fine with your FI interacting with them. This is just fucking disgusting.

    I said in another post that FI does't hang out with them anymore. And I don't interact with them. I say hello when I visit FI at work. It is fucking digusting, and I had FI delete the photo (he was going to anyway). FI works with them, so he has to interact with them. He has a newer position in the back of the warehouse so he doesn't have to talk to them, but he still works on their cars because money is money. He doesn't want to hang with them, they usually drop the car off and leave but this was just a quick oil change and diagnosis. 
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  • MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 


    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.
  • littlepep said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 


    Yeah but are they consenting to having there picture sent to all of the guys' friends?



    Probably not. I think her point was that her being in that room has nothing to do with her profession. She could have been a woman who works as an attorney they met at a bar and she decided to go up there.

    Likewise, if a guy is going to take a picture of a woman in that situation, he's going to take a picture of her regardless of her profession.

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  • MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 


    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 


    Yeah but are they consenting to having there picture sent to all of the guys' friends?

    Right that is disgusting and highly inappropriate. I was just speaking from the perspective of guys picking girls up a strip club. That kind of thing could happen anywhere. 
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  • littlepep said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 


    Yeah but are they consenting to having there picture sent to all of the guys' friends?

    Right that is disgusting and highly inappropriate. I was just speaking from the perspective of guys picking girls up a strip club. That kind of thing could happen anywhere. 


    I agree and would have had the same comment regardless of where the girl came from.
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  • MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.


    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 
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  • MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    These guys are fucking disgusting and don't respect women. I can't believe you interact with them and are fine with your FI interacting with them. This is just fucking disgusting.
    I said in another post that FI does't hang out with them anymore. And I don't interact with them. I say hello when I visit FI at work. It is fucking digusting, and I had FI delete the photo (he was going to anyway). FI works with them, so he has to interact with them. He has a newer position in the back of the warehouse so he doesn't have to talk to them, but he still works on their cars because money is money. He doesn't want to hang with them, they usually drop the car off and leave but this was just a quick oil change and diagnosis. 

    Yeah I definitely think your problem is not with strip clubs, because what you've described is not a strip club or stripper "thing".  It's more that these guys he works with are scumbags.  

    Those would be people who I would consider strictly coworkers, and would not participate in any type of social interaction (let alone a bachelor party) with them just on the basis of integrity and not associating with disgusting human beings.

    And even if someone did take your FI to a strip club for his bachelor party, that doesn't mean he'll fall into the actions of his coworkers.
  • AlisonM23 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    These guys are fucking disgusting and don't respect women. I can't believe you interact with them and are fine with your FI interacting with them. This is just fucking disgusting.
    I said in another post that FI does't hang out with them anymore. And I don't interact with them. I say hello when I visit FI at work. It is fucking digusting, and I had FI delete the photo (he was going to anyway). FI works with them, so he has to interact with them. He has a newer position in the back of the warehouse so he doesn't have to talk to them, but he still works on their cars because money is money. He doesn't want to hang with them, they usually drop the car off and leave but this was just a quick oil change and diagnosis. 
    Yeah I definitely think your problem is not with strip clubs, because what you've described is not a strip club or stripper "thing".  It's more that these guys he works with are scumbags.  

    Those would be people who I would consider strictly coworkers, and would not participate in any type of social interaction (let alone a bachelor party) with them just on the basis of integrity and not associating with disgusting human beings.

    And even if someone did take your FI to a strip club for his bachelor party, that doesn't mean he'll fall into the actions of his coworkers.


    He used to hang with these people and see them at parties and around the town, and he helps them with their cars still, so they aren't strictly coworkers. He will talk to them and text them, just not join them in their adventures to strip clubs or bars or anything. They will probably end up at his bachelor's party, and FI will be sure no strip club will be attended during that time. We've discussed it before as a couple. 
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  • MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.
    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 



    I don't think you're being thrown under the bus. I think we are just trying to challenge your idea that this has anything to do with whether or not a woman takes her clothes off on stage and that if your FI were to see a woman dance naked his behavior hence forth could be traced back to being in a strip club.

    Like, let's say my SO or your FI cheats on either of us with a stripper. It would be easy to suddenly blame all strippers for that behavior. But did he cheat because she's a stripper or did he cheat and she just happens to be a stripper?

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  • MadHops21 said:

    AlisonM23 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    These guys are fucking disgusting and don't respect women. I can't believe you interact with them and are fine with your FI interacting with them. This is just fucking disgusting.
    I said in another post that FI does't hang out with them anymore. And I don't interact with them. I say hello when I visit FI at work. It is fucking digusting, and I had FI delete the photo (he was going to anyway). FI works with them, so he has to interact with them. He has a newer position in the back of the warehouse so he doesn't have to talk to them, but he still works on their cars because money is money. He doesn't want to hang with them, they usually drop the car off and leave but this was just a quick oil change and diagnosis. 
    Yeah I definitely think your problem is not with strip clubs, because what you've described is not a strip club or stripper "thing".  It's more that these guys he works with are scumbags.  

    Those would be people who I would consider strictly coworkers, and would not participate in any type of social interaction (let alone a bachelor party) with them just on the basis of integrity and not associating with disgusting human beings.

    And even if someone did take your FI to a strip club for his bachelor party, that doesn't mean he'll fall into the actions of his coworkers.
    He used to hang with these people and see them at parties and around the town, and he helps them with their cars still, so they aren't strictly coworkers. He will talk to them and text them, just not join them in their adventures to strip clubs or bars or anything. They will probably end up at his bachelor's party, and FI will be sure no strip club will be attended during that time. We've discussed it before as a couple. 

    Ok so theyre your fiancées friends. If you were really so disgusted I think you'd realize that your problem isn't with the strip clubs it's with these people. The strip club is the most moral thing about this whole scenario. Are these people invited to your wedding if they are going to the bachelor party?

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  • redoryx said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.
    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 



    I don't think you're being thrown under the bus. I think we are just trying to challenge your idea that this has anything to do with whether or not a woman takes her clothes off on stage and that if your FI were to see a woman dance naked his behavior hence forth could be traced back to being in a strip club.

    Like, let's say my SO or your FI cheats on either of us with a stripper. It would be easy to suddenly blame all strippers for that behavior. But did he cheat because she's a stripper or did he cheat and she just happens to be a stripper?

    I would never blame said stripper for her profession if FI cheated, I would blame her and her alone. But since I'm surrounded by this stigma of strip clubs, this is how I feel. Like I said before, if I had lived in another area and know better people, I would probably be okay with it. With where I'm at right now, I don't like it. Maybe once we get older and different friends and coworkers, then I'll even go to one. But right now in my life, I can't. 
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  • redoryx said:

    littlepep said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    See but IMO this sounds a lot like people who are consenting to activities. If a girl agrees to go to a hotel with a guy, that's because she wants to and would do it regardless of her occupation, KWIM? It's not like guys can only find a girl to go to a hotel with them if they're at a strip club. 

    Yeah but are they consenting to having there picture sent to all of the guys' friends?



    Probably not. I think her point was that her being in that room has nothing to do with her profession. She could have been a woman who works as an attorney they met at a bar and she decided to go up there.

    Likewise, if a guy is going to take a picture of a woman in that situation, he's going to take a picture of her regardless of her profession.

    But them being stripeprs makes it more OK. In the minds of these sick fucks. Strippers deserve it. If they didn't want to be treated this way they'd hold more respectable jobs.

    It's step 1. Step 2 will be the drunk girl. Then the girl in the short skirt. The girl he buys dinner. The girl who isn't a virgin already. The girl who smiled. The girl who...existed. They'll work their way up the ladder of "women it's ok to disrespect" because at the core they believe it's all women. But strippers are currently the easiest to justify. Cause they're not real people.

    Do I really note that I don't believe any of this shit?
  • MadHops21 said:

    redoryx said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    SNIP
    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 



    I don't think you're being thrown under the bus. I think we are just trying to challenge your idea that this has anything to do with whether or not a woman takes her clothes off on stage and that if your FI were to see a woman dance naked his behavior hence forth could be traced back to being in a strip club.

    Like, let's say my SO or your FI cheats on either of us with a stripper. It would be easy to suddenly blame all strippers for that behavior. But did he cheat because she's a stripper or did he cheat and she just happens to be a stripper?

    I would never blame said stripper for her profession if FI cheated, I would blame her and her alone. But since I'm surrounded by this stigma of strip clubs, this is how I feel. Like I said before, if I had lived in another area and know better people, I would probably be okay with it. With where I'm at right now, I don't like it. Maybe once we get older and different friends and coworkers, then I'll even go to one. But right now in my life, I can't. 




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  • MadHops21 said:

    redoryx said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.
    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 



    I don't think you're being thrown under the bus. I think we are just trying to challenge your idea that this has anything to do with whether or not a woman takes her clothes off on stage and that if your FI were to see a woman dance naked his behavior hence forth could be traced back to being in a strip club.

    Like, let's say my SO or your FI cheats on either of us with a stripper. It would be easy to suddenly blame all strippers for that behavior. But did he cheat because she's a stripper or did he cheat and she just happens to be a stripper?



    I would never blame said stripper for her profession if FI cheated, I would blame her and her alone
    . But since I'm surrounded by this stigma of strip clubs, this is how I feel. Like I said before, if I had lived in another area and know better people, I would probably be okay with it. With where I'm at right now, I don't like it. Maybe once we get older and different friends and coworkers, then I'll even go to one. But right now in my life, I can't. 

    Wait. Hold up, I think you're missing someone else that would need blaming here.
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  • MadHops21 said:

    redoryx said:

    MadHops21 said:

    MagicInk said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    chibiyui said:

    MadHops21 said:

    So I'm wondering anti-strip club people, what about plays that feature nudity? 

    I've been in a few plays where I have been butt ass naked on stage. Way more naked then I have ever been swinging around a pole. 

    Would that acceptable or would you not see those plays or insist your SO not see those plays? Is it just the context of a strip club or is it the (near) naked lady? (I never did full nude, topless only, I know others who work in bikini bars depending on their state laws)
    I don't know anyone personally that has modeled for art nude, or starred in a play nude, or anything like that, but I would see it. Me and FI have been to Aruba and I have commented on another chick's ass to him because she was fit and had a nice body, but it's just the strip club that bothers me and the reputation that guys I know give it. 

    FI was working on a car the other day and me and his buddy were sitting next to the car, all 3 of us talking. Said buddy was talking about some strip club near the Indiana border, saying how FI will go there for his bachelor party and his past experiences with strippers and the sex they've had and so on. I personally don't know anyone that has gone to a strip club without leaving with a chick's number or hooking up with her. Yes, that's prostitution, but that's my experience, hence my feelings towards them. 

    If I was in another state with different friends, then I would probably feel different and more relaxed with them. I almost guarantee it since I'm fine with sending FI pics of ladies I find attractive or pointing out a sexy lady at the beach. Just not comfortable with strip clubs. 
    Is it possible that these guys are lying?  

    Cause, depending on how many guys you know who claim this, I feel like they're probably lying or exaggerating. Unless they are at the worlds sleaziest strip club, no way that many guys are sexing or getting phone numbers from strippers.


    .....Also, how many of those phone numbers were actually fake?
    Apparently not that many, FI will get sent pics of said strippers in a hotel room with the guys. I guess it's sort of like a game for some of them? 

    Fi was sent of one pic of one of the strippers on the hotel floor, completely naked, about to perform on it. It was....weird, like a trophy pic or something.

    Some of these guys will go to the same strip clubs over and over and become friendly with the people there. I just don't know how many are fake numbers. The fact that they do this and then talk about my FI going makes me queasy. Some of these guys are just dirty. 
    This is disgusting and I am not talking about the stripper. What your friends are doing is sickening.
    As much as I am not one who would want to end or come between my husbands platonic relationships, Those motherfuckers would have to go.

    I'm worried how your FI can be friends with such toxic people.
    He doesn't so much hang with them anymore. He works with them, but doesn't really see them outside of work unless their car needs to be worked on. Makes me way more comfortable now. They have this whole clique at his job that goes out and gets drunk and go to strip clubs together. Some even come back to work drunk. I'm 23, FI is 25, his friends are around the same age group, albeit higher, but they love spending their money. I don't know how FI didn't get swept in, but he loves saving money and stock market, so I think I chose a winner. 

    ETA in regards to saving up money for a wedding and home and opening a college fund for future children we will have. He did that on his own, I teared up pretty bad. 
    Well I'm 28. My brothers are 20 and 22. They'd never take pictures of women they're about to fuck and pass around the pics as trophies because they aren't disgusting misogynists.

    What the fuck does money have to do with it? They fucking disrespecting these women. They're misogynistic assholes who think women are just for the taking. Are you say if your FI was more interested in spending money, he'd behave the same way? That's some fucked up shit.
    Though I never did say it's because they're young, it's because they're dumb and disgusting. I have other friends ~21 years old and they don't do this, they respect women. So, it's not an age thing but they are not married and in committed relationships and want to be known as "wild" or what the fuck ever he said. I don't agree with it, so I don't know why I'm being thrown under the bus. 

    If FI was more interested in spending money, he'd be buying cars and motorcycle parts and food. Strip clubs just aren't his thing. Or taking pictures of women without their permission, regardless of clothes or profession. Is that better worded? We do not condone these actions of his coworkers and friends, and he doesn't participate or want to. 



    I don't think you're being thrown under the bus. I think we are just trying to challenge your idea that this has anything to do with whether or not a woman takes her clothes off on stage and that if your FI were to see a woman dance naked his behavior hence forth could be traced back to being in a strip club.

    Like, let's say my SO or your FI cheats on either of us with a stripper. It would be easy to suddenly blame all strippers for that behavior. But did he cheat because she's a stripper or did he cheat and she just happens to be a stripper?

    I would never blame said stripper for her profession if FI cheated, I would blame her and her alone. But since I'm surrounded by this stigma of strip clubs, this is how I feel. Like I said before, if I had lived in another area and know better people, I would probably be okay with it. With where I'm at right now, I don't like it. Maybe once we get older and different friends and coworkers, then I'll even go to one. But right now in my life, I can't. 

    There is no stigma of strip clubs! There is your fiancé who receives porn from his scum bags who are taking pictures of women without their consent. And there is a huge difference between deleting the pic and saying "whoah dude not cool. Don't send me this" your fiancé is still friends with these assholes and you are the company you keep. I'd much rather my fi be hanging out with strippers than your fi friends

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    So, you're more worried about the people your FI hangs out with, because they go to strip clubs and then hook up with girls. Do you not trust your FI? 
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