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Non-wedding, LONG post, southern birthday post-party woes... Am I crazy?



Long time lurker, didn’t know where else to ask a question…
I don’t want mean comments about anyone’s behavior, just want to know if I’m
crazy for feeling the way I do. Non-wedding talk, will try to make it short as
possible but it’s long!<?xml:namespace prefix = "o" ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" />



5 people involved: Me, BF, BF’s bestie (house-owner), BF’s
bestie’s GF (house-resider), my bestie



For BF’s big blowout birthday party, BF’s bestie offered up
his house/land for us to have a LOT of people out, plus lots of room for outdoor
games. Even though we got other offers for where we could have the party, we
went with that because they are such good friends. (This was about 6 weeks
ago.)



Flashback, 4 weeks ago Saturday – we meet BF’s bestie’s new
GF. We were not introduced, and I didn’t know her name until they were official
on Facebook this past Wednesday. Since we were not introduced, we assumed this
was his “flavor of the day” (to put nicely,) so it was a surprise to everyone
in our group of friends when she moved in with him 2 days later.



Not trying to brag, but BF and I really did bust our booties
to make sure everything would go great on the day of. We went to set up
everything at 10 AM for the party at 6 PM, I cooked mac and cheese, mashed
potatoes, stuffed jalapenos, cookies, and watermelon, and my mom brought beans,
chips, dips, and brownies. Bestie brought cheesecake (his birthday cake.)
(Bestie was large part in party-planning.) (The meat was brought by the men –
crawfish, gator, brisket, and ribs.)



The morning of, as we were prepping, house-owner was a
totally @$$hole to me! Very few people get along with him, but I always
tolerated him for the fact that he is BF’s bestfriend… He spoke condescendingly
to me, acted like I was a child, and when I was explaining something to him
about our margarita machine rental, in front of the rental people, he said, “I
don’t even understand what you’re saying, but I don’t care.”



When I was preparing food in the house, I accidentally
called his GF by the wrong name (I mixed up 2 letters in her name, wasn’t an ex’s
name or anything.) House-owner corrected me nicely, and asked her the question
I had asked him, and she obviously had heard me get her name wrong and rudely
answered the question. I let it go.



After food, drinks, and some games, I was finally having fun
not worrying about the food and set up. I met with BF, who admitted he had
never eaten anything through the whole evening because he was too busy. I took
him in the house to make him a plate, where some people were hanging out. I
made him a plate of mac and cheese and mashed potatoes while I heated up
brisket, and the house-owner’s GF said, “I would put some salt and pepper on
the mac and cheese and mashed potatoes if I were you, they aren’t very good and
I didn’t like them.” (This, I clearly heard – she was standing next to me.)



I said, “That is kind of insulting… You don’t know who made
those, and it was me, and I’m standing right here.”



She said, “Well, I meant that I LIKED them, but…”



I have no idea what she tried to back track and say, because
smoke was already pouring from my ears. If you don’t like someone’s food – DON’T
EAT IT. I told BF I was going to step outside and would be back, I had said all
that needed to be said, and didn’t want it to escalate any more.



I stepped outside, spoke to bestie about what happened, and
she told me that earlier in the night, she had a conversation with house-owner’s
GF, in which she thanked house-owner’s GF for letting us throw the party at
their house, and she replied with an eye roll, “Well, it wasn’t really my idea…”



When that conversation was relayed to me, I no longer felt
welcome at their home, even though it was a party I was hosting. But because I
did not hear her say that, I was not mad at her, only upset that I felt that
our party wasn’t wanted at their place. I only wished that we had been told
sooner.



As I was walking back to the house, BF walked out and said
some choice words about the GF who offended me (and he is NEVER one to bash on
a friend, but he completely was, like I had never heard him.) When I relayed
what I had heard, he said that we would pack up our stuff and leave (it was
after midnight at this point, and many other people had left, so no scene had
to be made.)



As I was getting our cooler from the shop, house-owner walks
in and asks me if everything is okay, and I said “Not really” as I was walking
out the door. He relayed the message into the kitchen (where bestie was standing)
that I was throwing things around the shop, huffing and puffing, rolling my
eyes at him, etc. I would be honest if I did any of these things, but I really
was trying to leave without causing a scene, and I was already walking out the door
as he was walking in and asked me the question.



When that was relayed back to me and BF, his exact words
were, “We will go settle this right now.” (Uh oh… didn’t know what that meant.)



He called house owner out of the house, so it was just us 3,
and asked what the deal was and what was going on. I am paraphrasing the
conversation, although the sentences were said… I know I’m forgetting part of
the conversation. House owner: ‘What are you talking about? Is there something
going on?’ *Me and BF stare* House owner: ‘Ohhhh, yeah, [house-owner’s GF] said
you got upset that she said your food wasn’t that good, but she said she was
sorry and felt bad.’ Me: ‘Not really an apology if she doesn’t say it to me.’
House owner: ‘Well, you shouldn’t get mad about that.’ Me: ‘I’m not mad about
that, I have heard that she wasn’t cool with us having this party out here.’ HO:
‘Well, this is MY house, and she doesn’t have a say.’ Me: ‘I understand that,
but you have to realize how uncomfortable that makes us feel out here.’ HO: ‘Well,
who told you that she said that?’ Me: ‘That doesn’t matter, I’m not mad that she
said it, I’m saying if there was a problem, it should have been made clear to
us before the party.’ HO: ‘Well, if you won’t tell who told you, that how do I
know that it’s true?’ Me: ‘So you’re saying I made it up?’ HO: ‘I’ll get [HO
GF] up here right now and we will talk about this like adults.’ Me: ‘Sure, call
her up here!’



(At some point in this conversation, he also said, “[HO GF]
doesn’t know how to talk to drunk people… I had 4 8oz margaritas from 2 PM-12
AM, so no, I would not say I was drunk… At all… Or even had a buzz… Because I
was the DD for BF)



He calls her from the campfire, where she is sitting and
drinking from the margarita machine I paid for…



HO: ‘Did you say something to someone that you weren’t cool
with the party being here?’



[This is the part during a rap song when it’s edited and all
you hear are “bleep”s… Calling me vicious names, yelling at all 3 of us, “talking
it out like an adult”]



BF finally steps in and tells her to calm down, I can’t get
a sentence out, finally her BF shoves her into the house, accusing me of
upsetting her (at this point, no one has yelled except for house-owner and his
GF… at each other.) I said that I couldn’t explain because she wouldn’t let me
get a word in, and she rips the door back open to yell at me, “Then finish what
you were ******* saying!”



I raised my voice to say, “No, you walked away and finished
this!”



House-owner said that they were going to bed, but I said I
was going to get my stuff out of the kitchen and we would leave. My girlfriends
helped me clean the kitchen and take my stuff to the car, all the while we can
hear the 2 of them screaming at each other in the back bedroom, and finally
house-owner’s sister comes out and asked me what happened (I have been friends
with her for about 10-15 years). I was completely calm and explained what
happened, and she also said that the GF was sorry that she insulted my food.
She then explained that she is only 19 (???) and has had a rough life, been
kicked out of her parents’ house and already been to jail, that that’s just the
way she is, very blunt, etc. I said I was only upset about the food comment,
but after HO and his GF had treated me throughout the day already, we truly
didn’t feel comfortable being there and we were ready to leave. We left soon
after…



By the time I got home, HO had posted a Facebook status… “All
that was said were your mashed potatoes and mac and cheese were bland, no need
to tell lies and cause drama!”



I ignored it, the next morning I posted a thank you to
everyone who helped out (including him for letting us use his place.) He
commented that everything was great until the drama at the end of the night, it
would be nice if adults would just be adults and talk their problems out
(Remember the night before when we called her up to talk to us and she started
screaming and cussing? Yeah…)



He sent me a long message on facebook that said my drama was
completely uncalled for, it was dumb to get upset that she didn’t like my food,
and that I shouldn’t have made up a lie to start drama and say she didn’t want
us there. Also shouldn’t have caused a rift between BF and HO.



At this point, I truly believe it is a man vs. woman thing.
I don’t think a man will ever understand what it is to have her food insulted
by another woman. I could defend myself to him all day (as a woman,) and he will
defend her (as a man.) Am I crazy for getting upset about these things? Should
I feel bad? BF acts like they will get over it, they are guys, but he has
publicly called me out on FB twice now (without tagging me, but of course
everyone knows it is me.) Is it a southern woman thing to be upset that her cooking was insulted?



Maybe it is a cultural difference: BF and I are Caucasian,
HO and his GF are Mexican. Also, both guys are 29, I am 24, she is 19… I have
heard that her age just makes her immature, but I’m just trying to not be crazy
myself…



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Re: Non-wedding, LONG post, southern birthday post-party woes... Am I crazy?

  • Ooof. SO MUCH DRAMA.

    All I'll say is that I know plenty of 19 year olds FAR more mature than any of the people in this story. 
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  • I don't think it's a "woman thing" to be upset about having your food insulted. I'm a woman and pretty damn good at cooking so I pride myself on it. But everyone has their own tastes. If someone didn't like my food I'd just think, "Good then don't eat it. More for me!" and move on. I see no reason to get upset over such a silly thing or to fight with someone you just met. 

    I know you said you weren't drunk but to me the whole situation sounds like a bunch of drunk drama llamas blowing things out of proportion and getting crazy for no reason. 

    And it was a lot of "he said and then she told me, and then I heard her say" etc. I could hardly follow all the she-said-nonsense. No idea why you would base anything on rumors and gossip at a party. Wow. 

    And I don't think insulting food is part of the Mexican culture, but ok. 
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  • I admit that I didn't follow the whole post but here goes...

    It seems to me that the GF knew you cooked the food and intended to insult you, and the issue here is the deliberate rudeness and not the fact that she insulted your cooking. It could just as well have been your choice of drinks, your friends, your dress that she insulted. It doesn't really matter what it was about, she was being rude. The house owner should understand that.

    But it sounds like he's determined to defend this girl, regardless of logic. Drama breeds drama, and these kind of people attract each other, so don't expect that to change as long as they're together.
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  • This is, quite possibly, one of the most childish things I've seen posted on here. So what, she insulted your mashed potatoes. They're fucking mashed potatoes. MASHED POTATOES. Is this going to matter next week? I should fucking hope not. 

    I wouldn't blame her age either. You acted like a child as well. The whole screaming/arguing could've been avoided by saying "Y'know, it's clear that we're both pretty heated. I'm just going to collect my belongings and leave. We can chat about this another day if you choose." Someone can't fight with you if you choose not to fight. You chose, 100% to argue with her and the homeowner. 

    And the Facebook stuff... your thank you could be construed as a ding on her - as benign as you made it to be. "Well, she's being a total bitch. I'm just going to ignore her and send out a thank you. See how she likes that!" Yeah, Facebook is just text. Nobody knows your inflection or meaning behind your words and let's face it. Facebook is the best place to blow things up. Passive aggressive statuses all over that fucking thing. 

    I would've walked away from her at the first sign of trouble. Wouldn't even be slightly worth my time. I'm sure you standing around, relaying messages through the boyfriend and homeowner didn't help matters at all. If anything, that just added fuel to the fire.
    jwaggs said:



    Long time lurker, didn’t know where else to ask a question…
    I don’t want mean comments about anyone’s behavior, just want to know if I’m
    crazy for feeling the way I do. Non-wedding talk, will try to make it short as
    possible but it’s long!



    5 people involved: Me, BF, BF’s bestie (house-owner), BF’s
    bestie’s GF (house-resider), my bestie



    For BF’s big blowout birthday party, BF’s bestie offered up
    his house/land for us to have a LOT of people out, plus lots of room for outdoor
    games. Even though we got other offers for where we could have the party, we
    went with that because they are such good friends. (This was about 6 weeks
    ago.)



    Flashback, 4 weeks ago Saturday – we meet BF’s bestie’s new
    GF. We were not introduced, and I didn’t know her name until they were official
    on Facebook this past Wednesday. Since we were not introduced, we assumed this
    was his “flavor of the day” (to put nicely,) so it was a surprise to everyone
    in our group of friends when she moved in with him 2 days later.



    Not trying to brag, but BF and I really did bust our booties
    to make sure everything would go great on the day of. We went to set up
    everything at 10 AM for the party at 6 PM, I cooked mac and cheese, mashed
    potatoes, stuffed jalapenos, cookies, and watermelon, and my mom brought beans,
    chips, dips, and brownies. Bestie brought cheesecake (his birthday cake.)
    (Bestie was large part in party-planning.) (The meat was brought by the men –
    crawfish, gator, brisket, and ribs.)



    The morning of, as we were prepping, house-owner was a
    totally @$$hole to me! Very few people get along with him, but I always
    tolerated him for the fact that he is BF’s bestfriend… He spoke condescendingly
    to me, acted like I was a child, and when I was explaining something to him
    about our margarita machine rental, in front of the rental people, he said, “I
    don’t even understand what you’re saying, but I don’t care.”



    When I was preparing food in the house, I accidentally
    called his GF by the wrong name (I mixed up 2 letters in her name, wasn’t an ex’s
    name or anything.) House-owner corrected me nicely, and asked her the question
    I had asked him, and she obviously had heard me get her name wrong and rudely
    answered the question. I let it go.



    After food, drinks, and some games, I was finally having fun
    not worrying about the food and set up. I met with BF, who admitted he had
    never eaten anything through the whole evening because he was too busy. I took
    him in the house to make him a plate, where some people were hanging out. I
    made him a plate of mac and cheese and mashed potatoes while I heated up
    brisket, and the house-owner’s GF said, “I would put some salt and pepper on
    the mac and cheese and mashed potatoes if I were you, they aren’t very good and
    I didn’t like them.” (This, I clearly heard – she was standing next to me.)



    I said, “That is kind of insulting… You don’t know who made
    those, and it was me, and I’m standing right here.”



    She said, “Well, I meant that I LIKED them, but…”



    I have no idea what she tried to back track and say, because
    smoke was already pouring from my ears. If you don’t like someone’s food – DON’T
    EAT IT. I told BF I was going to step outside and would be back, I had said all
    that needed to be said, and didn’t want it to escalate any more.



    I stepped outside, spoke to bestie about what happened, and
    she told me that earlier in the night, she had a conversation with house-owner’s
    GF, in which she thanked house-owner’s GF for letting us throw the party at
    their house, and she replied with an eye roll, “Well, it wasn’t really my idea…”



    When that conversation was relayed to me, I no longer felt
    welcome at their home, even though it was a party I was hosting. But because I
    did not hear her say that, I was not mad at her, only upset that I felt that
    our party wasn’t wanted at their place. I only wished that we had been told
    sooner.



    As I was walking back to the house, BF walked out and said
    some choice words about the GF who offended me (and he is NEVER one to bash on
    a friend, but he completely was, like I had never heard him.) When I relayed
    what I had heard, he said that we would pack up our stuff and leave (it was
    after midnight at this point, and many other people had left, so no scene had
    to be made.)



    As I was getting our cooler from the shop, house-owner walks
    in and asks me if everything is okay, and I said “Not really” as I was walking
    out the door. He relayed the message into the kitchen (where bestie was standing)
    that I was throwing things around the shop, huffing and puffing, rolling my
    eyes at him, etc. I would be honest if I did any of these things, but I really
    was trying to leave without causing a scene, and I was already walking out the door
    as he was walking in and asked me the question.



    When that was relayed back to me and BF, his exact words
    were, “We will go settle this right now.” (Uh oh… didn’t know what that meant.)



    He called house owner out of the house, so it was just us 3,
    and asked what the deal was and what was going on. I am paraphrasing the
    conversation, although the sentences were said… I know I’m forgetting part of
    the conversation. House owner: ‘What are you talking about? Is there something
    going on?’ *Me and BF stare* House owner: ‘Ohhhh, yeah, [house-owner’s GF] said
    you got upset that she said your food wasn’t that good, but she said she was
    sorry and felt bad.’ Me: ‘Not really an apology if she doesn’t say it to me.’
    House owner: ‘Well, you shouldn’t get mad about that.’ Me: ‘I’m not mad about
    that, I have heard that she wasn’t cool with us having this party out here.’ HO:
    ‘Well, this is MY house, and she doesn’t have a say.’ Me: ‘I understand that,
    but you have to realize how uncomfortable that makes us feel out here.’ HO: ‘Well,
    who told you that she said that?’ Me: ‘That doesn’t matter, I’m not mad that she
    said it, I’m saying if there was a problem, it should have been made clear to
    us before the party.’ HO: ‘Well, if you won’t tell who told you, that how do I
    know that it’s true?’ Me: ‘So you’re saying I made it up?’ HO: ‘I’ll get [HO
    GF] up here right now and we will talk about this like adults.’ Me: ‘Sure, call
    her up here!’



    (At some point in this conversation, he also said, “[HO GF]
    doesn’t know how to talk to drunk people… I had 4 8oz margaritas from 2 PM-12
    AM, so no, I would not say I was drunk… At all… Or even had a buzz… Because I
    was the DD for BF)



    He calls her from the campfire, where she is sitting and
    drinking from the margarita machine I paid for…



    HO: ‘Did you say something to someone that you weren’t cool
    with the party being here?’



    [This is the part during a rap song when it’s edited and all
    you hear are “bleep”s… Calling me vicious names, yelling at all 3 of us, “talking
    it out like an adult”]



    BF finally steps in and tells her to calm down, I can’t get
    a sentence out, finally her BF shoves her into the house, accusing me of
    upsetting her (at this point, no one has yelled except for house-owner and his
    GF… at each other.) I said that I couldn’t explain because she wouldn’t let me
    get a word in, and she rips the door back open to yell at me, “Then finish what
    you were ******* saying!”



    I raised my voice to say, “No, you walked away and finished
    this!”



    House-owner said that they were going to bed, but I said I
    was going to get my stuff out of the kitchen and we would leave. My girlfriends
    helped me clean the kitchen and take my stuff to the car, all the while we can
    hear the 2 of them screaming at each other in the back bedroom, and finally
    house-owner’s sister comes out and asked me what happened (I have been friends
    with her for about 10-15 years). I was completely calm and explained what
    happened, and she also said that the GF was sorry that she insulted my food.
    She then explained that she is only 19 (???) and has had a rough life, been
    kicked out of her parents’ house and already been to jail, that that’s just the
    way she is, very blunt, etc. I said I was only upset about the food comment,
    but after HO and his GF had treated me throughout the day already, we truly
    didn’t feel comfortable being there and we were ready to leave. We left soon
    after…



    By the time I got home, HO had posted a Facebook status… “All
    that was said were your mashed potatoes and mac and cheese were bland, no need
    to tell lies and cause drama!”



    I ignored it, the next morning I posted a thank you to
    everyone who helped out (including him for letting us use his place.) He
    commented that everything was great until the drama at the end of the night, it
    would be nice if adults would just be adults and talk their problems out
    (Remember the night before when we called her up to talk to us and she started
    screaming and cussing? Yeah…)



    He sent me a long message on facebook that said my drama was
    completely uncalled for, it was dumb to get upset that she didn’t like my food,
    and that I shouldn’t have made up a lie to start drama and say she didn’t want
    us there. Also shouldn’t have caused a rift between BF and HO.



    At this point, I truly believe it is a man vs. woman thing.
    I don’t think a man will ever understand what it is to have her food insulted
    by another woman. I could defend myself to him all day (as a woman,) and he will
    defend her (as a man.) Am I crazy for getting upset about these things? Should
    I feel bad? BF acts like they will get over it, they are guys, but he has
    publicly called me out on FB twice now (without tagging me, but of course
    everyone knows it is me.) Is it a southern woman thing to be upset that her cooking was insulted?



    Maybe it is a cultural difference: BF and I are Caucasian,
    HO and his GF are Mexican. Also, both guys are 29, I am 24, she is 19… I have
    heard that her age just makes her immature, but I’m just trying to not be crazy
    myself…





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  • What in the actual fuck.

    What are you wanting us to say? You all need to learn how to let things that don't at all matter (which is everything in this story) go.


  • Is it a southern woman thing to be upset that her cooking was insulted?

    No, I think that's a pretty normal thing to be upset about that for approximately a minute and a half. It's an adult thing to let it go. I don't think being southern, a woman, or Caucasian has anything to do with it.

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    edited April 2015

    You should probably stay off facebook.

     

    Edit: I also recommend that next time you host a party at someone else's house make sure you actually like the person and don't use the reason of the house owner being your SO's 'bestie.' There was obviously tension before the party even started and you should have just walked away and hosted it at a state park or something.

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  • You guys, careful. She explicitly said she didn't want mean comments on anyone's (assuming she's included in anyone) behavior. She's gonna be sooooo mad.

    You're right. We totes should have let her be her drama llama self. 

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  • I think the solution would be about a teaspoon of dry ground mustard, and a half teaspoon of finely minced garlic, added to the cheese sauce.  I rarely add additional salt to the macaroni and cheese, but find the mustard gives the cheddar a nice sharp flavor that isn't obvious or overwhelming. 


    If you didn't use cheddar, but used American processed cheese, than it's absolutely beyond me, and I would have to agree that you were completely in the wrong. 
    Amen lady. That's how I do my mac and cheese too. Dry mustard and a pinch of nutmeg. Delish!
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  • I feel like I need a plethora of highlighters to figure out all the he-said-she-said bull in here. 


    But... the "all women get upset if someone doesn't like their food" bs is just that. BS. Southerner here. I've cooked my share of family potluck banquet dishes, and rather more than a few of them have been less-than-stellar on the seasoning front, because I am very cautious about overseasoning and as a result consistently underseasoned before FI came along and taught me better. If you can't handle someone not liking a dish of yours, get out of the kitchen and call the barbecue restaurant instead.

     
    **SITDB!**
     
    Hey I have this issue too. My boyfriend taught me how to appreciate salt and the joy it brings to dishes by adding just the right amount. I always get nervous about over seasoning things and since I've started dating him I've learned better. Cooking is fun!
     
    P.S. Really learned how much impact salt has when I made coconut curry butternut squash soup. Add a little and you get 'taste', add some more and you bring out the flavors of the chicken stock. Add a little bit more and you've got a beautiful blend of curry flavors, earthy butternut squash, and the creaminess of the coconut milk. Yum!
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  • Oh but I agree with @novella1186. Sounds like yall were a bunch of drunk drama llamas. I'm not going to put all the blame on you because it sounds like they were being drama llamas as well. None of this seems like stuff worth fighting over. 
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  • I had to stop reading. Chill pills need to be passed out like pez dispensers to the entire lot of you. There isn't a single person in this who wasn't acting like a total ass.

    I feel like I just watched a Family Guy episode that was nothing but animated buttholes farting. And near the end of what I could stomach I was seeing Jersey Shore in my head.


    I just realized that her username is one of the girls from jersey shore, right?
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  • The best part was when I said I didn't want mean comments and got them anyway :) Keep em coming, already got insulted a few times over the weekend... Women on women crime - no wonder I don't post on this too often! Thanks for more insults after a bad weekend! Keep em coming!

  • I think the solution would be about a teaspoon of dry ground mustard, and a half teaspoon of finely minced garlic, added to the cheese sauce.  I rarely add additional salt to the macaroni and cheese, but find the mustard gives the cheddar a nice sharp flavor that isn't obvious or overwhelming. 


    If you didn't use cheddar, but used American processed cheese, than it's absolutely beyond me, and I would have to agree that you were completely in the wrong. 
    All of this. Annabelle knows best.

    And being the self-proclaimed macaroni and cheese connoisseur that I am, a blend of cheeses can give a complex bouquet of flavors. Try a blend of smoked gouda, gruyere, asiago, and sharp cheddar. And it's a big mistake to use anything lower than 2% milk when making your cheese sauce.

    Perhaps if you had done those things, you would have avoided this whole mess in the first place.
    Dude. Heavy cream. Like, alfredo except with cheddar. That shit is the BEST.
    Ditto this! Also, carmelised onions on top. Bonus if they are deep fat fried for crispiness and crunchy bacon as well.
  • Yes, you are being crazy. You're being crazy for letting such petty nonsense get you all riled up and crazy for thinking it could have anything to do with them being Mexican. WTF?

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