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Gap between ceremony/reception?

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Re: Gap between ceremony/reception?

  • DH and I are attending a wedding at the end of the month with a 2 pm ceremony, 6 pm cocktail hour, and 11 pm after party....so we're probably looking at a 3+ hour gap. Oh, and the wedding is in a beach town with limited parking near the church so we're supposed to get there early.

    This is a dear friend of mine from college, so we're going, but it's going to be a longggggg day. We actually are planning to take a nap in our hotel room in the interim....

    The one thing that I appreciate is that they're providing a shuttle from the hotel to/from the reception....
  • Our wedding is on a Saturday in July. The Catholic church ceremony is at 3 and should end by 4. We are expecting many people to drive 15 minutes to the hotel, drop off their cars, and get on a shuttle for the reception. The cocktail hour that starts at 6. There is a big festival in the area that may cause traffic and there may also be shore traffic as we live in NJ. I am hoping that it isn't too much of a gap.
    Yep, that's a two hour gap and pretty rude.

    This thread has gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I'd suggest you make a new post and try to get some logistical help with closing that gap. 
  • Our wedding is on a Saturday in July. The Catholic church ceremony is at 3 and should end by 4. We are expecting many people to drive 15 minutes to the hotel, drop off their cars, and get on a shuttle for the reception. The cocktail hour that starts at 6. There is a big festival in the area that may cause traffic and there may also be shore traffic as we live in NJ. I am hoping that it isn't too much of a gap.
    Yep, that's a two hour gap and pretty rude.

    This thread has gone off on a bit of a tangent, but I'd suggest you make a new post and try to get some logistical help with closing that gap. 
    This. You need to close this gap up.

    Also, if you can, I would try to get the shuttle to bring guests to the ceremony also (if you can guarantee check-in before 2 for your guests). It seems odd and unnecessary to drive to the hotel, check-in and get ready, drive to the ceremony, drive back to the hotel and grab the shuttle.
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  • I've been to a bunch of weddings with a gap. There seems to be 3 options on how to fill it:

    1. Go to a bar and end up accidentally getting wasted before the reception. Then leave the reception early because you're tired and drunk.
    2. Go to a coffee shop or some other place to sit, and sit uncomfortably until the reception, then show up at the reception in a bad mood and leave early because you're tired and irritated.
    3. Go home or to the hotel and sit/lay still to try to rest until the reception, then show up at the reception in a bad mood and tired and cranky and leave early. 
  • Our wedding is on a Saturday in July. The Catholic church ceremony is at 3 and should end by 4. We are expecting many people to drive 15 minutes to the hotel, drop off their cars, and get on a shuttle for the reception. The cocktail hour that starts at 6. There is a big festival in the area that may cause traffic and there may also be shore traffic as we live in NJ. I am hoping that it isn't too much of a gap.
    Your question is going to get lost in the shuffle. If you start a  new thread, you'll get more advice. 

    Looks like you have a 2 hour gap there, which isn't polite. You could close that gap by hosting a hospitality room at the hotel. It doesn't have to be complicated -coffee and donuts or soft drinks and cheese and crackers, a place to sit, and restrooms. All guests should be aware of this option. 


                       
  • edited August 2015
    Our wedding is on a Saturday in July. The Catholic church ceremony is at 3 and should end by 4. We are expecting many people to drive 15 minutes to the hotel, drop off their cars, and get on a shuttle for the reception. The cocktail hour that starts at 6. There is a big festival in the area that may cause traffic and there may also be shore traffic as we live in NJ. I am hoping that it isn't too much of a gap.
    Your question is going to get lost in the shuffle. If you start a  new thread, you'll get more advice. 

    Looks like you have a 2 hour gap there, which isn't polite. You could close that gap by hosting a hospitality room at the hotel. It doesn't have to be complicated -coffee and donuts or soft drinks and cheese and crackers, a place to sit, and restrooms. All guests should be aware of this option. 


    This. That is too long of a gap. What if I'm not staying at the hotel and don't want to take a shuttle. What do I do for the next 2 hours? You could host something at the hotel or move up your cocktail hour. 
  • I do honestly think it's rude to not attend a ceremony and still attend a reception. The ceremony is 
    To do otherwise is like, "I don't care about you saying your vows, but I do care about the free food and booze." 
    the most important part! I'd rather decline the entire day's worth of events than attend only an evening reception. 
    All the gapped events I've been to have been 2pm or 3pm ceremonies followed by a 5 or 6pm cocktail hour start time. Never anything as egregious as an 11am ceremony followed by a dinner reception. 

    Naturally, rudeness of guests would be negated by proper hosting, so there's that. 
    I have never attended a wedding for the free booze and food. Why would I do that? I can go out to eat and drink whatever I like for less than I give as a wedding gift. I go to weddings to celebrate the marriage of loved ones. I have only been invited to one wedding with a gap - and I went to the ceremony, not the reception. But if I chose the reception instead of the ceremony, it would have affected no one. The B & G didn't take attendance. 

    Their pocket book did.
    Yes, and they had already budgeted and paid for each guest that RSVP'd "Yes" to their event. . . whether or not that guest attended their ceremony AND the reception, or just the reception.  The costs to the couple would be the exact same.

    The only way the couple would end up over paying in this instance is if more guests attended the ceremony and then ditched the reception.  In that case the couple would have wasted money on food and booze that was never consumed.

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  • Our wedding is on a Saturday in July. The Catholic church ceremony is at 3 and should end by 4. We are expecting many people to drive 15 minutes to the hotel, drop off their cars, and get on a shuttle for the reception. The cocktail hour that starts at 6. There is a big festival in the area that may cause traffic and there may also be shore traffic as we live in NJ. I am hoping that it isn't too much of a gap.
    Your question is going to get lost in the shuffle. If you start a  new thread, you'll get more advice. 

    Looks like you have a 2 hour gap there, which isn't polite. You could close that gap by hosting a hospitality room at the hotel. It doesn't have to be complicated -coffee and donuts or soft drinks and cheese and crackers, a place to sit, and restrooms. All guests should be aware of this option. 


    This. That is too long of a gap. What if I'm not staying at the hotel and don't want to take a shuttle. What do I do for the next 2 hours? You could host something at the hotel or move up your cocktail hour. 
    Exactly. You expect people back at the hotel by 4:15...I'd expect you'd have a shuttle at 4:30 to the reception. Depending on how far away it is, cocktail hour should start as early as 4:31. :-)  Any guests not planning to drop off their car and take the shuttle will head directly to the reception...since there ceremony is over at 4pm, cocktail hour should start as soon as anyone arrives, so as early as 4:01pm if there's no travel time. 

    In a situation like this, where you expect people to arrive at cocktail hour in a staggered manner, I think it's fine to extend the cocktail hour to 1.5 hours. It could be from 4:15 to 5:45, then the reception starting at 5:45, for example. 
  • And no, I'd have no problem with someone attending the ceremony and not the reception. Why would I? That's the important part. The reception is the thank you. If you'd rather not receive a thank you in the form of a free fancy dinner and alcohol, that's your choice. But when people skip the part that actually IS all about the couple just to go get free dinner afterwards, that's just classless. If you can't see that, then go right ahead and do what you're doing, but there are plenty of people thinking that's just as big a faux pas as creating a gap between the ceremony and the reception.
    Free dinner?  Not when I'm shelling out $250+ as a gift, it's not!  It's a damned pricey dinner!

    I've only ever been to one gapped wedding, though, and I was a wedding party member in that one so I didn't have to deal with the gap.  So I've never had ot make the choice.  My friends and family have apparently mostly figured out how to do it properly.
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  • I'm sure nobody here plays by the "cover your plate" rule. If you declined a wedding for any reason, would you still send a gift?  If I'm very close to the couple and have to decline, I'm still sending something. My gift in honor of a couple's wedding does not reflect my expectation of getting food and booze in reciprocity.  So in my mind, a reception's still a free meal / night out. Heck, I'm drinking far more at wedding than I would on my own dime too. 
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  • I DON'T drink more at weddings than I do on my own dime.  It's exactly the same, if not less because I'm up dancing and mostly drinking water.

    I will often send gifts - if I'm close to the couple - if I can't make the wedding, but they're also likely not as much monetarily as they would be if I go.
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  • abcdevonn said:
    Not having a gap, never even heard of them until TK, but I've known friends who can't make the beginning of a ceremony so they just come to the reception instead...and I don't see why that's a problem. Like Kmmssg and Lyndausvi, I'd much rather have my friends and family just show up for the reception than not show up at all! Who cares if they miss the ceremony?! I'd much rather hang out with them at the reception and shake it on the dance floor than stick my nose in the air because they didn't take off work to stare at me getting married. 
    This. While I think it would be odd for guests to skip the ceremony for no reason when there is no gap (especially if the entire event is in one location), I would SO much rather have my friends and family at the reception vs. the ceremony, if they could only come to one part. I would not bat an eye if a guest had a valid reason to miss the ceremony, but could still come to the reception (due to work, childcare, travel time, etc.). We had a few guests show up to our ceremony as the processional was starting. So they waited outside until it was over. Did I notice? No. When I found out, did it matter to me? Not at all, because they were there to celebrate with me at the reception.

    And I agree with PPs - once you introduce a gap, you are no longer having one event; you've turned it in to two events. At which point guests should be able to decide to attend one or both. And the "free food" argument is ridiculous when you take into account how much money guests spend to attend a wedding. It's like saying I only attend conventions for the free swag.
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  • And the "free food" argument is ridiculous when you take into account how much money guests spend to attend a wedding. It's like saying I only attend conventions for the free swag.
    How much do they spend to attend a wedding? I was obviously talking about local weddings. I send a gift regardless of whether or not I attend, so for me, if the wedding is local, the cost difference between attending or not attending is 0.
  • And the "free food" argument is ridiculous when you take into account how much money guests spend to attend a wedding. It's like saying I only attend conventions for the free swag.
    How much do they spend to attend a wedding? I was obviously talking about local weddings. I send a gift regardless of whether or not I attend, so for me, if the wedding is local, the cost difference between attending or not attending is 0.
    We can't possibly answer this question because it varies from person to person, wedding to wedding, etc.

    But the minute you spend a single dollar to attend a wedding, that meal at the reception is no longer free.

    And your cost difference if you attend a local wedding vs. sending a gift is not zero- how much is it to ship the gift vs. the gas you use to get to and from the ceremony and reception?  Did you buy an outfit or any portion of an outfit to attend?  That's going to cost more than shipping a gift.  Do you require childcare to attend?  That costs more than shipping a gift.

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  • And the "free food" argument is ridiculous when you take into account how much money guests spend to attend a wedding. It's like saying I only attend conventions for the free swag.
    How much do they spend to attend a wedding? I was obviously talking about local weddings. I send a gift regardless of whether or not I attend, so for me, if the wedding is local, the cost difference between attending or not attending is 0.
    I went to a local wedding. It had a gap, the ceremony and reception were a half hour drive away from each other and there was a 2.5 hour gap. We spent $600 for this wedding. Just because it was local doesn't mean that money doesn't get spent. We had to pay for transportation, a babysitter, something to do before heading to the reception, wedding gift, shower gift etc.
  • abcdevonn said:
    Not having a gap, never even heard of them until TK, but I've known friends who can't make the beginning of a ceremony so they just come to the reception instead...and I don't see why that's a problem. Like Kmmssg and Lyndausvi, I'd much rather have my friends and family just show up for the reception than not show up at all! Who cares if they miss the ceremony?! I'd much rather hang out with them at the reception and shake it on the dance floor than stick my nose in the air because they didn't take off work to stare at me getting married. 
    This. While I think it would be odd for guests to skip the ceremony for no reason when there is no gap (especially if the entire event is in one location), I would SO much rather have my friends and family at the reception vs. the ceremony, if they could only come to one part. I would not bat an eye if a guest had a valid reason to miss the ceremony, but could still come to the reception (due to work, childcare, travel time, etc.). We had a few guests show up to our ceremony as the processional was starting. So they waited outside until it was over. Did I notice? No. When I found out, did it matter to me? Not at all, because they were there to celebrate with me at the reception.

    And I agree with PPs - once you introduce a gap, you are no longer having one event; you've turned it in to two events. At which point guests should be able to decide to attend one or both. And the "free food" argument is ridiculous when you take into account how much money guests spend to attend a wedding. It's like saying I only attend conventions for the free swag.
    I couldn't tell you if anyone skipped the ceremony and just attended the reception. . . but if I had had a sit down dinner with assigned seating I sure as hell would have been able to tell you who attended the ceremony and not the reception, and that would have pissed me off more because I would have had to pay per plate for the no shows at the reception.  It costs me basically nothing for a guest to skip my ceremony.

    But, I didn't have to worry about any of this shit!  Know why?  I didn't have a gap between my full Catholic Mass and my reception!

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  • Why is it obvious that you're talking about local weddings? Is the etiquette different if you travel to attend vs. a local wedding? Guests assume the responsibilty of their own travel cost, either way, most bring a gift (in my case I bring $$ in a card), dress up and take time out of their day even if they only attend part of it. They aren't doing that for a slice of prime rib and a few drinks.

    It's rude and classless to judge other guests reasons for attending the reception. I assume everyone is there for the same reason - because they care about the couple and want to celebrate the marriage.

    Because most people don't fly across the country and protest a gap by not showing up to the ceremony. I don't think it's rude or classless to judge guests at all, just as I don't think it's rude and classless to judge the hosts for having a gap. This isn't a "the guest is always right" scenario (as most seem to be among some) any more than it is for the B&G.

    But at this point, I'm just going to agree to disagree. Most in my circle don't have gaps in their weddings. But on the rare occasions that we've been invited to some, we pass on the whole thing or we attend the whole thing despite the gap. That's how we do it. Other guests do it differently, fine. But it's not any more rude of me to judge them than it is them to judge the B&G.


  • Why is it obvious that you're talking
    about local weddings? Is the etiquette different if you travel to attend
    vs. a local wedding? Guests assume the responsibilty of their own
    travel cost, either way, most bring a gift (in my case I bring $$ in a
    card), dress up and take time out of their day even if they only attend
    part of it. They aren't doing that for a slice of prime rib and a few
    drinks.

    It's
    rude and classless to judge other guests reasons for attending the
    reception. I assume everyone is there for the same reason - because they
    care about the couple and want to celebrate the marriage.


    Because most people don't fly across the country and protest a gap by not showing up to the ceremony. I don't think it's rude or classless to judge guests at all, just as I don't think it's rude and classless to judge the hosts for having a gap. This isn't a "the guest is always right" scenario (as most seem to be among some) any more than it is for the B&G.

    But at this point, I'm just going to agree to disagree. Most in my circle don't have gaps in their weddings. But on the rare occasions that we've been invited to some, we pass on the whole thing or we attend the whole thing despite the gap. That's how we do it. Other guests do it differently, fine. But it's not any more rude of me to judge them than it is them to judge the B&G.


    It might not be rude, but it's petty. It's petty for you or anyone to judge other guests- for prioritizing their time as they see fit, for what they are wearing, etc. It's just petty to judge people for shit that really doesn't affect you and isn't actually rude at an event that they aren't responsible for hosting.

    Yes, yes, "But we judge people on these boards all the time!" Great, but that's not a valid justification. That doesn't mean we *aren't* being petty on occasion.

    There's a huge difference between judging those who are supposed to be hosting an event for being shitty hosts, and judging other attendees of said event. It's *not* petty to judge a couple for having a gap; They're the ones bring rude to their guests.


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  • Why is it obvious that you're talking about local weddings? Is the etiquette different if you travel to attend vs. a local wedding? Guests assume the responsibilty of their own travel cost, either way, most bring a gift (in my case I bring $$ in a card), dress up and take time out of their day even if they only attend part of it. They aren't doing that for a slice of prime rib and a few drinks.

    It's rude and classless to judge other guests reasons for attending the reception. I assume everyone is there for the same reason - because they care about the couple and want to celebrate the marriage.

    Because most people don't fly across the country and protest a gap by not showing up to the ceremony. I don't think it's rude or classless to judge guests at all, just as I don't think it's rude and classless to judge the hosts for having a gap. This isn't a "the guest is always right" scenario (as most seem to be among some) any more than it is for the B&G.

    But at this point, I'm just going to agree to disagree. Most in my circle don't have gaps in their weddings. But on the rare occasions that we've been invited to some, we pass on the whole thing or we attend the whole thing despite the gap. That's how we do it. Other guests do it differently, fine. But it's not any more rude of me to judge them than it is them to judge the B&G.
    It might not be rude, but it's petty. It's petty for you or anyone to judge other guests- for prioritizing their time as they see fit, for what they are wearing, etc. It's just petty to judge people for shit that really doesn't affect you and isn't actually rude at an event that they aren't responsible for hosting. Yes, yes, "But we judge people on these boards all the time!" Great, but that's not a valid justification. That doesn't mean we *aren't* being petty on occasion. There's a huge difference between judging those who are supposed to be hosting an event for being shitty hosts, and judging other attendees of said event. It's *not* petty to judge a couple for having a gap; They're the ones bring rude to their guests.
    THIS.


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    Why is it obvious that you're talking about local weddings? Is the etiquette different if you travel to attend vs. a local wedding? Guests assume the responsibilty of their own travel cost, either way, most bring a gift (in my case I bring $$ in a card), dress up and take time out of their day even if they only attend part of it. They aren't doing that for a slice of prime rib and a few drinks.

    It's rude and classless to judge other guests reasons for attending the reception. I assume everyone is there for the same reason - because they care about the couple and want to celebrate the marriage.

    Because most people don't fly across the country and protest a gap by not showing up to the ceremony. I don't think it's rude or classless to judge guests at all, just as I don't think it's rude and classless to judge the hosts for having a gap. This isn't a "the guest is always right" scenario (as most seem to be among some) any more than it is for the B&G.

    But at this point, I'm just going to agree to disagree. Most in my circle don't have gaps in their weddings. But on the rare occasions that we've been invited to some, we pass on the whole thing or we attend the whole thing despite the gap. That's how we do it. Other guests do it differently, fine. But it's not any more rude of me to judge them than it is them to judge the B&G.
    It might not be rude, but it's petty. It's petty for you or anyone to judge other guests- for prioritizing their time as they see fit, for what they are wearing, etc. It's just petty to judge people for shit that really doesn't affect you and isn't actually rude at an event that they aren't responsible for hosting. Yes, yes, "But we judge people on these boards all the time!" Great, but that's not a valid justification. That doesn't mean we *aren't* being petty on occasion. There's a huge difference between judging those who are supposed to be hosting an event for being shitty hosts, and judging other attendees of said event. It's *not* petty to judge a couple for having a gap; They're the ones bring rude to their guests.

    That's your opinion. Mine is different (as is the opinion of many others, some of whom posted in this thread). I can live with that.
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