Bueller??

Re: Bueller??

• labro member

  

  January 2016

  @speakeasy14 I think it's to help people who get stuck with the manager label and salaried pay but the reality is it's a shitty job low on the totem pole with a ton of hours for not a lot of pay. I think it's fair.

  
  

  
  

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• speakeasy14 member

  

  January 2016

  @labro see what I see happening is either companies will bring those people to $50k or keep them where they are at and not allow over 40 hours. 

  

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• labro member

  

  January 2016 edited January 2016

  @speakeasy14 Well, I guess that's ok with me. Right now they are working a ton of OT without compensation for it. At least then it's limited to 40 hours and they have time to pick up a second job if they want/need more money. Alternatively, they get a massive raise in order to keep them on salary, but again, they are getting compensated for all of their additional time.
  
  ETA: I guess I will add my personal experience. At my old job I was salaried at $35k. However, I was also "non-exempt" meaning that I was salaried up to 40 hours, and then I received OT pay for any hours worked over 40. My job didn't require a ton of OT, but I was compensated for it during the times I worked it. I'm pretty sure @Swazzle is also non-exempt. I don't know what her salary is but I do know she regularly works 50 plus weeks.
  
  And more. Before H got his promotion he was salaried but non-exempt, meaning he also got OT. When he was promoted, he moved from being non-exempt to exempt, but he also received a pretty significant raise to make up for the "loss" in the OT pay, since while he wouldn't be working any less hours, he was taking on more responsibility for the same amount of effort.

  
  

  
  

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  January 2016 edited January 2016

  I'm exempt because even though I technically do not have people report to me, I work for an executive.  So I work 50-60 a week, but just have my flat salary.  I have no issue with either outcome, but I know my boss would not be ok with just 40 hours, so I feel like I'd be one of the 50 minimum people.   I'm just curious to see how businesses will respond to it. 
  
  
  

  

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• labro member

  

  January 2016

  @speakeasy14 I imagine that the businesses NOT doing it won't take it well.  Some businesses that are (like mine) will probably just shrug their shoulders and move on...it doesn't change the status quo. But you look at like a gas station where the shift manager is making a "salary" of $25k-$30k but working 50-60 hours each week. I don't think he or she is being well compensated for their time. But that gas station owner is thinking they get a reliable person around the clock for cheap and now all of a sudden the cost is going up. It's going to be a difficult one to pass...

  
  

  
  

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  January 2016

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• wink0erin member

  

  January 2016

  @speakeasy14 That totally wouldn't work at my job. State employees in my state are super low paid, and there's no way in hell they would pay us any more.
  
  I'd love to make $50k or get paid for working extra hours, but what would happen instead is they would restrict how many hours we can spend on things, ban us from the building on nights/weekends/holidays... and still expect the same work product on the same timeline. It would increase stress 10fold. I like being able to work evenings or weekends when I want to. No one forces me to stay late or come into the office on my day off, but I do it because the hours are usually more productive.
  
  Oddly enough, I worked for comp time today and my productivity is less than usual. Had I decided to come in without comp time I likely would have gotten everything done in a couple hours and gone home, but since I'm getting comp I have to sit around. I tend to work more efficiently when I volunteer my time. 

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• wink0erin member

  

  January 2016

  Also I didn't actually read the article. I imagine being a government employee could change the rules a bit. 

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• speakeasy14 member

  

  January 2016

  @wink0erin I remember seeing somewhere that it doesn't apply to teachers, lawyers, doctors, and I can't remember who else. 

  

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• labro member

  

  January 2016

  @wink0erin I agree. This is definitely focused on private businesses, not public/government related positions. Which sucks. Teachers are some of the most under-paid and overworked IMO and it's wrong. I'm pretty sure my BIL has gone more than 5 years now without even a COL raise. Thanks Georgia.
  

  
  

  
  

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• wink0erin member

  

  January 2016

  @labro @speakeasy14 Teachers are seriously underpaid in my state too. Then we wonder why students aren't performing well and why good teachers don't stay in the state. I mean, it's not rocket science. 
  
  A legislator in my state got into a Twitter battle with a teacher recently and basically said teachers should quit whining and get a second job. Pathetic. 

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  January 2016

  @wink0erin Ugh. My BIL already works a second job at a restaurant. He does it every summer and now every weekend to cover the cost of additional education. It's so ridiculous! Georgia has similar problems with losing qualified and talented teachers to other states that at least bother to compensate slightly better.

  
  

  
  

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