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    midgetthemightymidgetthemighty
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    [QUOTE]anna, I'm right there with you. I'm not sure where this idea that Congressmen make bazillions of dollars comes from, but I've seen some houses where a few of them live and they're not mansions. Not to say some of them don't live in mansions, it's just not a given. <strong>And yeah, I wouldn't take a job that required me to work in another city and have to pay my own way home all the time.</strong> Especially if going home was also required for the job.
    Posted by mandapanda78[/QUOTE]
    I wouldn't want them to have to pay to come home every time either, but yet I didn't clarify that it my post. They can still use their own car around town or pay for a cab. Also, I'm sure that a lot of meetings with their state counterparts could be done via videochat. Obviously they would still go home to see their families, but we should be using technology as much as possible to help cut down the debt too.
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    BubbalubBubbalub member
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : My mom listens to this crazy conspiracy theory radio show in the wee hours of the night when she can't sleep and for Christmas this year, she bought H and I this 72 hour emergency kit thing.  It's a red backpack with meal bars, bottled water, some fancy windup flashlight, a super warming aluminum sleeping bag, etc.  It's to get us from here to my aunt & uncle's house in the mountains of VA.
    Posted by FutureMrsTR[/QUOTE]


    Those are actually really smart, in terms of if a disaster happened. In CA, because of the earthquakes, they have billboards and tv ads urging people to make a kit to allow each of us to be self-sufficient for 72 hours in case of disaster. It's always possible that help will not get to you before you are in desperate need of clean water and food, or a blanket or way to warm yourself.

    However, an emergency kit for the end of the world? A little cray-cray, IMO!
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    hlq2011hlq2011
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    [QUOTE]anna, I'm right there with you. I'm not sure where this idea that Congressmen make bazillions of dollars comes from, but I've seen some houses where a few of them live and they're not mansions. Not to say some of them don't live in mansions, it's just not a given. And yeah, I wouldn't take a job that required me to work in another city and have to pay my own way home all the time. Especially if going home was also required for the job.
    Posted by mandapanda78[/QUOTE]

    Manda, I feel like part of it is because millionaire politicians tend to be very visible - people like the Bush family, and the John Kerrys of the world.  They have a lot of money, but the didn't get it working for the government.

    I remember being shocked when I learned in school that the President only made $400k a year (and I admit to not knowing what he makes now).  Granted, he gets a lot of benefits with the office, but when you think about the responsibilities he has to deal with versus, say, your average Fortune 500 CEO....
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    Honestly if you read into the history of American journalism you'll realize that never ever was there such a thing as unbiased media. A free press we have always had, but an unbiased one, certainly not.

    The bigger threat than personal bias from each individual journalist is large-scale conglomeratization. When fewer and fewer news outlets are spending less and less money to report the news we're all in a lot of trouble.
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    Moneypenny424Moneypenny424 member
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    [QUOTE]I think the fact that GE paid NOT ONE penny in taxes last year is a much bigger problem than cell phones or Chargers. In fact WE paid THEM 3.2 BILLION dollars. The system is effing broken. The company, led by Immelt, earned $14.2 billion in profits in 2010, but it paid not a penny in taxes because the bulk of those profits, some $9 billion, were offshore. In fact, GE got a $3.2 billion tax benefit. <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558" rel='nofollow'>http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-electric-paid-federal-taxes-2010/story?id=13224558</a>
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    But look how many jobs they created!
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    cenglecengle member
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : Can I come? I can sew, so I could learn to make clothes and stuff. H can....well, he's useless. He's a city boy. BUT! I'll breed with him and we'll make lots of strong farm  hands.
    Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]


    Sounds like a plan to me! We could start a compound. Ha!
    ILs even have a cabin in the wood. It's pretty sweet.
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    hlq2011hlq2011
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dear-congress?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9824befc-7d7c-461d-bf0c-795d4f310979Post:4d6265e0-54f8-4b10-a230-7c51df084b0e">Re: Dear Congress...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I wouldn't want them to have to pay to come home every time either, but yet I didn't clarify that it my post. They can still use their own car around town or pay for a cab. Also, I'm sure that a lot of meetings with their state counterparts could be done via videochat. Obviously they would still go home to see their families, but we should be using technology as much as possible to help cut down the debt too.
    Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

    It's very hard for a congressman to stay in touch with his constituency via teleconferencing.

    Meetings with their staff or state politicians aren't the only thing they travel for.  They travel home so they can be visible in their communities.  And that can't be accomplished via technology.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : It's very hard for a congressman to stay in touch with his constituency via teleconferencing. Meetings with their staff or state politicians aren't the only thing they travel for.  They travel home so they can be visible in their communities.  And that can't be accomplished via technology.
    Posted by hlq2011[/QUOTE]

    I dunno...I kinda like the idea of Congress Chat Roulette.
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    midgetthemightymidgetthemighty
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : <strong>It's very hard for a congressman to stay in touch with his constituency via teleconferencing</strong>. Meetings with their staff or state politicians aren't the only thing they travel for.  They travel home so they can be visible in their communities.  And that can't be accomplished via technology.
    Posted by hlq2011[/QUOTE]

    Why is that?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I wouldn't want them to have to pay to come home every time either, but yet I didn't clarify that it my post. They can still use their own car around town or pay for a cab. Also, I'm sure that a lot of meetings with their state counterparts could be done via videochat. Obviously they would still go home to see their families, but we should be using technology as much as possible to help cut down the debt too.
    Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

    What makes you think they don't drive their own cars? A few people in leadership have government cars, but the vast majority of members use their own vehicles. And they aren't going home to chat with the state legislatures, they are going to do townhalls and talk to constituents. And a lot of constituents want face time.
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    A kit for the end of the world is crazy. It's the end of the world I really don't think a emergency kit is going to do any good.
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    aragx6aragx6 member
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    The idea of not paying politicians to travel back and forth between two places they need to be is insane and would have no effect on the budget whatsoever.

    We gave GE 3.2 billion dollars. How much does travel cost?

    Same way we try and villianize teachers and their evil pensions.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : Sounds like a plan to me! We could start a compound. Ha! ILs even have a cabin in the wood. It's pretty sweet.
    Posted by cengle[/QUOTE]

    I can knit, sew, felt and spin wool. I can cook over an open fire and start a flame with flint and tinder. H can build stuff. Lots of stuff. Like a good ol' Irish tinkerman. Can we join you???
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    hlq2011hlq2011
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : Why is that?
    Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

    Did you read the rest of my comment?  Yeah, you can conduct a meeting with your staff over videochat or whatever.

    But, what, are they going to have staff drive around a laptop computer so they can talk to the people who voted them into office "in person"?
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    FutureMrsTRFutureMrsTR
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    Definitely a little cray-cray, Bubba!  And my mom is NOT the sort of person I would have expected to get caught up in that stuff.  But I guess you never know :)  I tease her about it all the time.
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    annakb8annakb8 member
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    TR, my mom is stockpiling food. I don't think she has an emergency kit yet, but she has plenty of canned veggies.
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    Meg1979Meg1979
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : Seriously. <strong>For example, my FI's boss sleeps in his office so he doesn't have to pay for an apartment here.</strong> And he used to be a doctor so coming to Congress was a HUGE paycut for him. And his wife refuses to come to DC so if he never went home he'd never see her. And I totally understand members with young children wanting to leave their kids in their home schools with their friends instead of either expsosing them to DC's horrendous public schools or paying out the ass for private school.
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    I heard on the news that some people were freaking out about this arrangement saying that tax payers aren't paying for accomodations like this.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : Why is that?
    Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]

    <div>Imma use an extreme example of this to illustrate why teleconferencing with your district isn't the same.</div><div>
    </div><div>So hurricane Katrina happened a few years back. You probably looked at newspaper photos and said, "my, that's horrible". You probably saw people in charge of the relief efforts talking about how horrendous it was. You might have shed a tear or said a few prayers for them.</div><div>
    </div><div>I went to Biloxi a month after the storm, to help people repair their homes. You can NOT know from a photograph what it was like down there. You can not smell a month's worth of rot. You can not drink, cook, and bathe in aluminum-canned water. You cannot see the glowing red X's on homes that tell how many bodies they found inside. You can not hear the pain and at the same time, grace, in the voices of people who have nothing left in the world.</div><div>
    </div><div>You can not know, without going home to your district, what your constituents really want and need.</div>
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    [QUOTE]Birdie, I can't get into my beliefs now cause I'm working and all (I REALLY AM!!), btu we can discuss it some time. Personally, I don't think it's May 21 and I don't believe that it's going to happen rightthissecond. But I think with the economy falling, increasing natural disasters, wars in the Middle East, there's just a lot of signs. But I will be really pissed if 2012 is real. I do think I'm goign to hang with the big J, but I want babies first. #selfishpartyof1
    Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

    ditto this.  I don't believe in 2012, and we aren't supposed to be able to say when J is coming to get us, but I want to have a baby first (is that selfish?) and enjoy being married.  I think it'll happen in our lifetime.  Revelations is a cool book. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I heard on the news that some people were freaking out about this arrangement saying that tax payers aren't paying for accomodations like this.
    Posted by Meg1979[/QUOTE]

    What, they are mad the members are staying in their office outside the hours of 9 to 5 or something? That makes absolutely no sense. It usually just means they work harder.
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    [QUOTE]The idea of not paying politicians to travel back and forth between two places they need to be is insane and would have no effect on the budget whatsoever. We gave GE 3.2 billion dollars. How much does travel cost? Same way we try and villianize teachers and their evil pensions.
    Posted by aragx6[/QUOTE]

    I agree that the 3.2 billion dollars we gave GE is insane. Think about your own budget though, when things get tight, you cut the big and little things. You cut what you can, regardless of how big or little it is. It only takes 100 pennies to make a dollar, etc. etc. etc.
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    I don't believe that there is a date the world will end.  And if there was, I wouldn't want to know.  I don't think it will happen in our lifetime.  
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    Of course, Bubba!

    We will have the coolest survival compound ever!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I agree that the 3.2 billion dollars we gave GE is insane. Think about your own budget though, when things get tight, you cut the big and little things. You cut what you can, regardless of how big or little it is. It only takes 100 pennies to make a dollar, etc. etc. etc.
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    I think you have the right intentions, but I don't think you really understand how the government works. It is more than a little complicated that a simple household budget.
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    [QUOTE]I don't believe that there is a date the world will end.  And if there was, I wouldn't want to know.  I don't think it will happen in our lifetime.  
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    There's no date in the Bible, but the Mayan calendar ended on December 21, 2012. My reasoning for that is they got bored. Just think about how far away the year 2012 was for the Mayans. They probably felt like they wasted a ton of time making calendars they would never use. lol
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : But look how many jobs they created!
    Posted by Moneypenny424[/QUOTE]

    That still doesn't give them a pass to not pay taxes. As much as that company makes image how helpful the company's money would help this country.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I agree that the 3.2 billion dollars we gave GE is insane. Think about your own budget though, when things get tight, you cut the big and little things. You cut what you can, regardless of how big or little it is. It only takes 100 pennies to make a dollar, etc. etc. etc.
    Posted by midgetthemighty[/QUOTE]


    The point is that this kind of travel back and forth between DC and the Members' respective districts is NECESSARY to do their jobs.
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    Rosie, yes what you said about conflicting information and misinformation in the press. It's really hard for someone who doesn't understand politics much to begin with, like me, to understand what the news outlets are telling me because they all seem to be saying similar, yet different things. Plus, there is always a history and backstory to everything that gives deeper understanding of every situation and it feels like I'm getting sucked down the rabbit hole trying to find everything to make me understand.

    Clearly the part of my brain that should have been allotted to politics and how our government works has been annexed by the part that wants to learn how to shear a sheep and felt myself a wool coat.


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dear Congress... : I think you have the right intentions, but I don't think you really understand how the government works. It is more than a little complicated that a simple household budget.
    Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

    I've openly admitted that I don't understand completely how the government works. There has to be some similarities though. Saving money is still saving money.
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    Oh, Anna.  My mom has canned food.  And extra water.  And a shitton of toilet paper (no pun intended).
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