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alixzafiris · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:df4b650e-6833-4ba5-b5ef-122440aa9e58">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I see where you're coming from, but why should you or I or anyone else HAVE to be careful getting in the car when someone else obviously didn't even care if we could get into the car? If someone has no regard for me why should I pussyfoot around them? You see where I'm coming from?
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

This is the dummest thing I've ever read in my life. "Why should I"? What are you, five? Grow up.

kate51485 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:df4b650e-6833-4ba5-b5ef-122440aa9e58">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I see where you're coming from, but why should you or I or anyone else HAVE to be careful getting in the car when someone else obviously didn't even care if we could get into the car? If someone has no regard for me why should I pussyfoot around them? You see where I'm coming from?
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

Pussyfooting is entirely different from intentionally damaging someone else's property.

Sorry if you have to do a balancing act to get into your car, but that does NOT give you the right to vandalize, and you're an idiot if you think it does.

pumpkinpumpkin · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:df4b650e-6833-4ba5-b5ef-122440aa9e58">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I see where you're coming from, but why should you or I or anyone else HAVE to be careful getting in the car when someone else obviously didn't even care if we could get into the car? If someone has no regard for me why should I pussyfoot around them? You see where I'm coming from?
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

Couldn't you be a bigger person and perhaps GO IN TO THE STORE and ask that they PA the person who is driving blue van license plate 123 XYZ because their vehicle is in the way. Or call a tow truck. ::headdesk::

ohwhynot · April 2010

Jjalph, I see where you're coming from, but I can't agree. Sometimes people parked the way they parked because some other fool parked badly and they didn't have much choice. Sometimes people's sense of space isn't all that great and they didn't do a good job out of a certain level of incompetence or inability, but not out of malice.

louisvillebride21 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:df4b650e-6833-4ba5-b5ef-122440aa9e58">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I see where you're coming from, but why should you or I or anyone else HAVE to be careful getting in the car when someone else obviously didn't even care if we could get into the car? If someone has no regard for me why should I pussyfoot around them? You see where I'm coming from?
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]
That's about as mature as saying...well, someone fell right in front of me and blocked my path. They broke their leg and can't get up. They didnt care about blocking my path, why should I worry about helping them out. Get over yourself.

AmoroAgain · April 2010

You know, I used to get angry about people parking too close. And then we moved here. Everyone parks within milileters of each other, and yet, people don't go around smacking the crap out of everyone else.

ANYWAY, that's enough of the car crap.

atayk21 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:b4b9dc91-9815-4828-af76-9fbbd4e64c17">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Jjalph, I see where you're coming from, but I can't agree. Sometimes people parked the way they parked because some other fool parked badly and they didn't have much choice. Sometimes people's sense of space isn't all that great and they didn't do a good job out of a certain level of incompetence or inability, but not out of malice.
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

Agreed. And I also tend to analyze things a bit too much, so I always think about the person who may be driving that car. Old person, poor person, what have you. That piece of property my be the very thing that makes them happy.

smokeybailey · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:3885bef3-6e8b-421d-9c26-ea0a1cce7d7f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Oh good fucking god. Knicking a door and purposely damaging someone's property are two different things. I've been VERY VERY careful and still dinged someone's door. NEVER, EVER EVER would I do it on purpose.
Posted by pumpkinpumpkin[/QUOTE]

I'm a bitch so if you park all up on my car then I am opening the door as I would normally. If I hit your car, I don't care. Park right. I am not going to open my car with the strength of a mad man but If you parked next to mine that close, you had to assume that my door may hit yours.

I am not sure if the problem is not being cautious or purposely being malicious because I think I would fall somewhere in between. I didn't see the original post but my door has hit another car when opened and on more than one occasion, I could have tried harder to prevent it.

ETA: This assumes that you have parked like an @sshole. Not that we are all crammed into tiny spots in a tight parking lot. If you have space but don't use it, then you're a jerk.

louisvillebride21 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:396d4aeb-5d30-411b-8b7d-b676a7ae8a5d">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]You know, I used to get angry about people parking too close. And then we moved here. Everyone parks within milileters of each other, and yet, people don't go around smacking the crap out of everyone else. ANYWAY, that's enough of the car crap.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]
Crasiest thing I saw over there. A smart car double parked and blocked this guy in. Two guys picked up the front of the car and rotated it a bit so dude could get out. They did put the car back though. So strange.

mandybear7 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:b4b9dc91-9815-4828-af76-9fbbd4e64c17">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Jjalph, I see where you're coming from, but I can't agree. Sometimes people parked the way they parked because some other fool parked badly and they didn't have much choice. Sometimes people's sense of space isn't all that great and they didn't do a good job out of a certain level of incompetence or inability, but not out of malice.
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

I was just going to say this. Unless the asshole purposely parked over two spots, which is pretty obvious, I just give the person the benefit of the doubt. I know I've parked like an asshole because I didn't have a choice.

Nebb · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:6b514895-6726-458c-86e2-70e81c69af59">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Agreed. And I also tend to analyze things a bit too much, so I always think about the person who may be driving that car. Old person, poor person, what have you.<strong> That piece of property my be the very thing that makes them happy.</strong>
Posted by atayk21[/QUOTE]

If that was the case they would be more careful with it and NOT park like a dipshit.

salt78 · April 2010

Plus...you know that opening your car door multiple times to damage a car that is parked too close also will cause damage to your door. Soooo what good would come of this exactly?

FutureMrsTR · April 2010

Ugh, I just read the whole name change post and the only things I've concluded are that a) it was ridiculous and I'll never get those 5 minutes of my life back and b) I am now totally curious about MrsAF's new last name.

btrflykate1230 · April 2010

http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-12

Bec-- That thread.

AmoroAgain · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:dfcaef0e-3a79-467a-b08c-84057545b21f">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Crasiest thing I saw over there. A smart car double parked and blocked this guy in. Two guys picked up the front of the car and rotated it a bit so dude could get out. They did put the car back though. So strange.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Apparently in Milan, people park 2 and 3 deep, but everyone leaves their car in neutral so you can move it around for other cars to get out.

jajph1974 · April 2010

I guess my attitude about the parking issue comes from too many years in an apartment complex with people that had no regard for anyone else's feelings / space. I suppose I'm a bit jaded in that respect.

It is what it is.

I still stand by my non-flaming of Kiki and Stacks though

squirrly · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:df4b650e-6833-4ba5-b5ef-122440aa9e58">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I see where you're coming from, but why should you or I or anyone else HAVE to be careful getting in the car when someone else obviously didn't even care if we could get into the car? If someone has no regard for me why should I pussyfoot around them? You see where I'm coming from?
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

Because willful destruction of property is a crime, among other reasons. That and it just makes you a shittastic person to be that way. I get being pissed. I get yelling at the person. I get trying to find a way to report them. But, ultimately, you need to be the bigger person.

On the Whit front. . . I flame her for never posting fun, happy updates. I know there are some rough parts to moving in together, and it's reasonable to ask for suggestions, but I don't think I've seen a non-depressing post in quite a while, and it makes all the negative stand out more than it should.

Stackeye210 · April 2010

I agree P2 it is 2 completely different things. I'm in NO WAY defending my actions at all. . . . nor do I think what I did was justified in any way.

I could not even walk between my car and the other car to even attempt to get into my car, it was parked that close to me. There is absolutly no way they didn't realize they were too close for me to get into my car. I think on any other day then that day, I would have just dealt with it. But I was seriously more stressed then I think anyone could have imagined. 2 month old just had surgery and we were leaving the hospital, and I had post partum depression. So I wasn't in my right mind - by any means. Again, not making excuses for myself, and I wouldn't do something like that again, regardless of the circumstances.

I hardly doubt with how close our cars were that it made any damage to either my car, or the other persons.

I know I'm doing it wrong........and I was really trying to ignore the FFF's because I know it isn't my typical character to do such a thing, but since it was brought up again, just wanted to let everyone know that I agree what i did was sh*tty to the max.

kate51485 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:218dfc44-e77a-4883-bd29-03af97b3aa06">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I guess my attitude about the parking issue comes from too many years in an apartment complex with people that had no regard for anyone else's feelings / space. I suppose I'm a bit jaded in that respect.<strong> It is what it is.</strong> I still stand by my non-flaming of Kiki and Stacks though
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

To use that dimwitted phrase to rationalize your tolerance of purposeful destruction makes you even more of an idiot.

salt78 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:218dfc44-e77a-4883-bd29-03af97b3aa06">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I still stand by my non-flaming of Kiki and Stacks though
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

<div>Even though they, themselves feel shitty for doing it?</div><div>
</div><div>Are you channeling bbyckes today?</div>

Celles · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:0dd52018-fc9e-4668-9857-2f832ccd9713">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I was just going to say this. Unless the asshole purposely parked over two spots, which is pretty obvious, I just give the person the benefit of the doubt. I know I've parked like an asshole because I didn't have a choice.
Posted by mandybear7[/QUOTE]

This.

My best friend and I were forced to park ON the white line once, because it was the last spot left in the entire lot (we were going to see Avatar on a Saturday night...) and one jackass all the way down the row straddled two spots, forcing everyone else over to accommodate him. She was really anxious that someone would blame her for the bad parking job and key her car in annoyance. It's a POS, too, but she loves it.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:2e6a701a-0d36-4b28-815a-9d4e51b9c099">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I don't flame Kiki or Stacks at all for this. If someone doesn't want their car to get hit while the person next to them is opening their door, they should park properly. When I pull into a spot I always check to make sure the people next to me have enough room to get in. Why? Because I don't want them to hit my car.
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

I've accidentally opened my door into another car (and had a woman chase me down, yelling at me about it once). I've also had to rest my door on the neighboring car if the space is really tight. But in no instance have I ever left a dent, or even a scratch, in someone's door. You have to be hell bent on doing damage to do that, I think. Actually, since I own a Saturn and my doors are dent-resistent plastic, I'm not even sure it would be possible for my to dent someone's car, no matter how hard I tried.

Celles · April 2010

Also, I think I'm going crazy. When I quoted mandybear, I knew I was quoting mandybear because I recognize her signature pic. But I swear, TK said her name was "floating heart."

jajph1974 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:ca9f9848-6ed0-4a8d-96e6-6771c23c711b">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : To use that dimwitted phrase to rationalize your tolerance of purposeful destruction makes you even more of an idiot.
Posted by kate51485[/QUOTE]

You're exactly right. It is tolerance. It's not really up there on my list of things to get pissed off about.

jajph1974 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:03edd838-c2b2-4fa0-8038-ebe2a2fdb980">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm a bitch so if you park all up on my car then I am opening the door as I would normally. If I hit your car, I don't care. Park right. I am not going to open my car with the strength of a mad man but If you parked next to mine that close, you had to assume that my door may hit yours. I am not sure if the problem is not being cautious or purposely being malicious because I think I would fall somewhere in between. I didn't see the original post but my door has hit another car when opened and on more than one occasion, I could have tried harder to prevent it. ETA: This assumes that you have parked like an @sshole. Not that we are all crammed into tiny spots in a tight parking lot. If you have space but don't use it, then you're a jerk.
Posted by smokeybailey[/QUOTE]

You said this much better than I did

kate51485 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:0dd67636-f800-45d6-b423-fc92f564cd93">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : You're exactly right. It is tolerance. It's not really up there on my list of things to get pissed off about.
Posted by jajph1974[/QUOTE]

Well in that case I hope karma exists.

sarabellam · April 2010

Texas won't grant a divorce to a lesbian couple married in Massachusetts.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jVPmXqGPMZrekCbvbmgFG33GVFhA

jajph1974 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:fa9c2b9d-6804-4340-a1de-85d1bafd7e29">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : There's a difference IMO between "bad behavior" and crimes. Destruction of personal property is a CRIME. If no one tolerated people committing crimes, I'd be tempted to say the prevalence of crime would go down, but if we tolerate it (and make excuses for it) we're condoning it.
Posted by betrothed123[/QUOTE]

Point taken. I hadn't considered it from that point of view. I was approaching it more from a "people doing things out of character while angry" point of view.

salt78 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:61cf0375-af87-46db-bd0e-7b17fcdf420d">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In non-car related news, I flame the State of Texas for its political crusade to the protect the "sanctity of divorce." Give me an effing break.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

<div>What does that even mean?</div>

jajph1974 · April 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-28?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:2e6b55e8-cb27-4396-8874-aadd8aafd1cdPost:70f2d4f1-c9b0-4e83-8c40-ba51305cbdc8">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Even though they, themselves feel shitty for doing it? Are you channeling bbyckes today?
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Ouch. Yeah, that did sound a bit bbyck-ish. Good call

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