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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : Lol how can someone underage be drinking for educational purposes?
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

    <div>Culinary school?</div>
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    [QUOTE]Chels- I didnt quote cause you said you were going to DD, but a parent did that here and some kid fell and smashed her head and died.  The parents went to jail, lost their house etc.  Similar to AATBs story.  Just because they are not driving doesnt mean they cant die.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Exactly.  Idk what to do at this point.  It's not happening, so I can't really prove his intent yet. And I won't be there (we're going to a wedding this weekend) so I won't know when it starts or if it's even happening.
  • If you let your kids drink when they are around you it just seems way too easy to jump to this situation:

    -Hey bro, let's hang out on Friday and have a few.
    -Cool bro! Yeah my parents don't mind if I drink so I'll just bring some of their stuff over

    Just not a good idea IMO.
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    [QUOTE]For the most part I don't think parents should be passing out booze to their kids, but shockingly enough, my friends that were allowed to drink at home with their parents, rarely drank after HS. They might be the exception rather than the norm, but it's just what I've experienced. 
    Posted by dmiller9274[/QUOTE]

    <div>I would be the exception rather than the norm then, too. But seriously? I have a friend that was raised Mormon (no caffeine, no booze, no smoking) went crazier than anyone in college when she was exposed to alcohol and all the rest of it. At the time I really didn't understand why she didn't have any kind of self-control. Now I think that she just never had the chance to learn self-control until then.</div>
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    [QUOTE]Chels- I didnt quote cause you said you were going to DD, but a parent did that here and some kid fell and smashed her head and died.  The parents went to jail, lost their house etc.  Similar to AATBs story.  Just because they are not driving doesnt mean they cant die.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]
    But even in Mass, parents or spouses are allowed to provide it. Was it their own child? or a friend of their child?<div>
    </div><div>I'm not trying to defend a parent letting their kid get wasted, I'm just curious how these cases play out if it is their own child and they are officially abiding byt the law.</div>
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    [QUOTE]If you let your kids drink when they are around you it just seems way too easy to jump to this situation: -Hey bro, let's hang out on Friday and have a few. -Cool bro! Yeah my parents don't mind if I drink so I'll just bring some of their stuff over Just not a good idea IMO.
    Posted by acaponi87[/QUOTE]

    <div>Again, this would be bad parenting. Part of giving your kids A drink (supervised) would be teaching them when they are and when they are NOT allowed to drink. I don't think the situation you've described is really any more likely than some kid stealing a six pack from his parents when they have never allowed him to drink supervised.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : Again, this would be bad parenting. Part of giving your kids A drink (supervised) would be teaching them when they are and when they are NOT allowed to drink. I don't think the situation you've described is really any more likely than some kid stealing a six pack from his parents when they have never allowed him to drink supervised.
    Posted by arwo[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : Again, this would be bad parenting. Part of giving your kids A drink (supervised) would be teaching them when they are and when they are NOT allowed to drink. I don't think the situation you've described is really any more likely than some kid stealing a six pack from his parents when they have never allowed him to drink supervised.
    Posted by arwo[/QUOTE]

    I don't think most kids understand why it would be perfectly fine for them to drink one place but not another. Even if you've told them.
    June 16, 2012
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  • I agree Arwo.

    Honestly my hesitation in believing in this theory is more my lack of faith in the parents being able to responsibly handle it, than it is the kids. There are so many really really stupid parents out there, it's scary. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : But this is people just posting about their individual experiences. My own experiences have been pretty much exactly the opposite. I drank a bit (not a ton) in high school, and I never lost control of my behavior when I went to college and was allowed to drink as much as I wanted. Friends that had never been allowed a single drink before? Holyshit, they went insane. More than one ended up in the hospital for alcohol poisoning.
    Posted by arwo[/QUOTE]

    This is exactly my experience too.  In my group of friends, it seemed that the stricter the parents, the more they went crazy with drinking.

    Andplusalso, in my experience, people who are trashy drunks (ie, offering blow jobs to bouncers or banging in back alleys) are trashy when they are sober too, the alcohol just makes them a little more bold about it.

    I'd be for lowering the drinking age to 19 for beer and wine and 21 for liquor.  Just like I think we should have driving restrictions from 16 to 18...it'd help ease kids into the responsibility of that type of stuff. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : Some of my friends in Alabama live in a county that just about a year or two years ago voted to keep it a dry county. I had no idea there was such a thing.
    Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm a waitress at a Mexican restaurant in a dry county. Talk about getting an earful every shift from people passing through. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" /></div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : I don't think most kids understand why it would be perfectly fine for them to drink one place but not another. Even if you've told them.
    Posted by acaponi87[/QUOTE]

    <div>Really? Parents have "conditional" rules for their kids all the time. When I was five I knew there were somethings that I wasn't allowed to do if my parents weren't around. Like using the stove.</div><div>
    </div><div>I understand that kids do things that are against the rules all the time--but again, I doubt that kids who aren't allowed a supervised drink are less likely to steal a bottle of booze from their parents' stash.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : I'm a waitress at a Mexican restaurant in a dry county. Talk about getting an earful every shift from people passing through. 
    Posted by VeggieLove1022[/QUOTE]

    I'm surprised they haven't applied to be a private club and get a liquor license.
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  • DMils- it may be a law on the books here, but there is NO place that serves minors.  Regardless of whether a parent consents or not.  In fact, there have been instances where kids were caught drinking at home and parents were arrested.  So im not entirely sure that law still exists here?
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  • An example of that DMils is if at a concert that is 18+, if a married couple comes up to the bar and he orders a beer for his underage wife, I am not allowed to serve her.  Or I can be arrested.  So I think the heavy drinking laws  here and serving laws cancel out that law KWIM?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : I'm surprised they haven't applied to be a private club and get a liquor license.
    Posted by brandichamberlain[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE]If we actually had more public transportation options, then it might actually be easier to start with elderly driving restrictions as well. If we think kids aren't capable or driving due to experience, I think the elderly also should be limited due to decreased sight, reaction times, etc. Also, I think it is harder for me to identify with the stupidity of kids driving being that I grew up in a really small town, and obviously didn't have the cell phone distractions. 
    Posted by KateJ10[/QUOTE]

    I think the over 75 crew should maybe have to do a test every year or two of their driving skills. Honestly though the stats say very few older people are involved in serious accidents period. They are not driving much at night or during rush hours anyway. People under 18 though have an astronomical rate of serious accidents. Even under 21 is not so good, particularly tenneage male drivers (that's what the insurance companies say anyway!).
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    [QUOTE]For the most part I don't think parents should be passing out booze to their kids, but shockingly enough, my friends that were allowed to drink at home with their parents, rarely drank after HS. They might be the exception rather than the norm, but it's just what I've experienced. 
    Posted by dmiller9274[/QUOTE]

    I agree on both counts. I would not do it myself but yes the kids that drank at home with their parents did not some to be the collage jugheads. Back in the day, it was actually ditto often times with the smoking. I saw parents that let their kids smoke in the front of them in high school who quit before they even got to collage. Again, I would never do that with a kid but it is interesting how that worked sometimes.
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    [QUOTE]DMils- it may be a law on the books here, but there is NO place that serves minors.  Regardless of whether a parent consents or not.  In fact, there have been instances where kids were caught drinking at home and parents were arrested.  So im not entirely sure that law still exists here?
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm really late to this, but I'm also from Ohio and I'm very aware of these rules.  Mainly because where I went to college it was THE thing to do during parent's weekends.  All the parent's take their underage kids to the bars and get them sloshed (Ohio University is a little bit different than the rest of the world).</div><div>
    </div><div>But if I went to a bar up in Cleveland with my mom, most likely the bartenders/servers would decline.</div><div>
    </div><div>It just depends on where you are.  </div><div>
    </div><div>ETA:  And there are 3 legal ways to drink if you are underage in Ohio (I had a very lengthy conversation about this with a cop).</div><div>
    </div><div><div>• Parent/guardian presence and consent</div><div>• OR legal‐age spouse</div><div>• One or more specified religious, educational, or medical</div><div>purposes</div></div><div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting : I'm really late to this, but I'm also from Ohio and I'm very aware of these rules.  Mainly because where I went to college it was THE thing to do during parent's weekends.  All the parent's take their underage kids to the bars and get them sloshed (Ohio University is a little bit different than the rest of the world). But if I went to a bar up in Cleveland with my mom, most likely the bartenders/servers would decline. It just depends on where you are.   ETA:  And there are 3 legal ways to drink if you are underage in Ohio (I had a very lengthy conversation about this with a cop). • Parent/guardian presence and consent • OR legal‐age spouse • One or more specified religious, educational, or <strong>medical purposes
    </strong>Posted by amys325[/QUOTE]

    What would be an example of a medical purpose?  I can't think of one.
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  • In Response to Re:Teen Sentenced to Homicide Over Texting:[QUOTE]What would be an example of a medical purpose?nbsp; I can't think of one. Posted by brandichamberlain[/QUOTE]

    I assume it's because there is alcohol in certain medications like cough syrup...maybe?
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    <p class="MsoNormal">This was pages/ages ago but to clarify</p> <p class="MsoNormal">[QUOTE]16 year olds driving saves parents a lot of time/money.[/QUOTE]</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Convenience maybe but 16 year olds can't enter into contracts, having to add them to an adult’s policy is the opposite of saving parents money.<span>  </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">[QUOTE]This state is fvcking stupid and lets off child molesters and murderers but tries to convict some girl for sending a text.  Our judges are stupid as hell.[/QUOTE]</p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">The state didn’t charge her, the boy’s lawyer attempted to get her involved to reduce his percentage of liability.<span>  </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Jemmini said it better but I think if the minimum drinking age limit were raised whoever’s inclined to be an asshole and use booze as the excuse will just get started assholing it up that many years later.<span>  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">That ABC show WWYD?<span>  </span>just aired an episode where a bunch of underage kids outside a liquor store asked adults to get them some beer (in exchange for money). The “kids” were successful a disturbing amount of the time.<span>  </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Applebees will serve a minor alcohol but only if they bring their own sippy cup.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p> <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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