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    Blueyed228Blueyed228 member
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    I feel like im in the god damn twilight zone this week.  I cant decide if I just think people are really effing stupid for lack of reading comprehension or if people just dont care enough to pay attention.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_flame-some-shiiit-tuesday?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:a27968be-62b2-4ac3-914d-054ec8ef8b08Post:d7bcc3f1-a75e-44aa-982e-b8a96121ecd8">Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Look, I do get where you guys are all coming from. Really, I do. I still think you guys don't get what I'm trying to say.  Like I said last night, the advice I would give her would ensure that she is PHYSICALLY outta there and out of harm.  But to me, divorce =\= guaranteed safe from abuser.  You could divorce them and they'd still find you.  You could choose to just separate (for whatever reason) and you could be safe the rest of your life.  There is a difference between leaving the guy and divorcing him.  I'd suggest she leave him, hands down.  But actually going through the agony of divorce is up to her because there are probably a ton of factors that I have no clue about when it comes to their relationship and what would happen in a divorce.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]


    You're right.  I don't get what you're trying to say.  I don't get why you think she should physically get out of there but stay legally (or religiously) binded to him if he's beating the shiiit out of her.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : You also have no clue from my understand what a women goes through when thinking about an abortion but you have no issue telling her your opinion on that.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Look, I do get where you guys are all coming from. Really, I do. I still think you guys don't get what I'm trying to say.  Like I said last night, the advice I would give her would ensure that she is PHYSICALLY outta there and out of harm.  But to me, divorce =\= guaranteed safe from abuser.  You could divorce them and they'd still find you.  You could choose to just separate (for whatever reason) and you could be safe the rest of your life.  There is a difference between leaving the guy and divorcing him.  I'd suggest she leave him, hands down.  But actually going through the agony of divorce is up to her because there are probably a ton of factors that I have no clue about when it comes to their relationship and what would happen in a divorce.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]


    So.. you'd sit by and watch a dear abused friend stay married to her abuser (even if she is living elsewhere)? What- just so you can say you would never suggest divorce? Do you not realize that its likely FAR more agonizing to remain married to an abuser than to go through the agony of a divorce? Honestly!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Whoa, what?  So she should stay legally joined to a person who has exercised physical power over her?  That makes sense.  ETA:  and WTF does getting divorced or not have to do with an abuser finding a victim? 
    Posted by jcg98[/QUOTE]

    Oh FFS. where did I ever say she SHOULD stay legally tied to him?
    ALL I SAID was she needs to decide if the ACTUAL DIVORCE (i.e. the PAPERS) should happen.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : But she's  talking about the wedding, not the marriage.  I think there's a difference.  I don't see a problem with people who are divorced/going through divorce/possible getting divorced giving wedding planning advice.  She still planned a wedding.  It's not like she's giving out tips on how to have a successful marriage or TTC or anything. 
    Posted by LP11509[/QUOTE]

    She started a thread asking what you would change about your wedding. There is a difference.

    I'm not saying she cant give advice about a wedding. I just know as someone who's been divorced twice, the last thing on my mind when your marriage is in trouble is gee I should have had a different venue.

    Answer questions of brides all day long, just dont start threads about doing it differently.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Look, I do get where you guys are all coming from. Really, I do. I still think you guys don't get what I'm trying to say.  Like I said last night, the advice I would give her would ensure that she is PHYSICALLY outta there and out of harm.  <strong>But to me, divorce =\= guaranteed safe from abuser</strong>.  You could divorce them and they'd still find you.  You could choose to just separate (for whatever reason) and you could be safe the rest of your life.  <strong>There is a difference between leaving the guy and divorcing him.  I'd suggest she leave him, hands down</strong>.  But actually going through the agony of divorce is up to her because there are probably a ton of factors that I have no clue about when it comes to their relationship and what would happen in a divorce.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

    But it's a step in the right direction..

    I just don't get why you would could say "leave him" but not "get a divorce"
    WTF, its just a word.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : She didnt answer a question, she started a thread about it as a spin off of the AW your wedding thread.  Its a completely different thing.
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    </div><div>I didn't realize this, sorry.  Reading fail on my part.  I can see how that would be a little...odd,  But I still don't think it's a big deal, really. </div>
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    Rehashing the Prudence thread is getting old too.  Its taken over 3 threads already.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_flame-some-shiiit-tuesday?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:a27968be-62b2-4ac3-914d-054ec8ef8b08Post:a558e602-c317-4fe1-8d93-6e04e961ccbc">Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Oh FFS. where did I ever say she SHOULD stay legally tied to him? ALL I SAID was she needs to decide if the ACTUAL DIVORCE (i.e. the PAPERS) should happen.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]


    But you wouldn't advise her to get a divorce.  Correct?

    Because if my friend was getting raped or beaten by her husband I'd tell her to find a lawyer and get divorced.  She can still decide what to do on her own.
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    Seriously. What kind of friend says "Oh you should leave your abusive husband, but don't divorce him." SERIOUSLY. HOW MANY SORTS OF FUCKED IS THAT?!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : She started a thread asking what you would change about your wedding. There is a difference. I'm not saying she cant give advice about a wedding. I just know as someone who's been divorced twice, the last thing on my mind when your marriage is in trouble is gee I should have had a different venue. Answer questions of brides all day long, just dont start threads about doing it differently. Smash- I personally feel like divorced people learn a lot from the expercience, that newly marrieds can benefit from.
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    <div>I get where you're coming from now.  I just don't think it's that big of a deal. Meh. </div>
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    [QUOTE]I had another one. Ironically, it was from AYG.  When BK said that if it's not your battle you should stay out of it, I thought it was weird. If we all only commented on things that we are directly involved in, AYG/FFF/etc. would be extremely boring and probably last a page.  Since she's stuck up for some of those she specifically referenced before (Chels, Midge, etc.) it seemed a little like "Don't flame who I don't think should be flamed." I know she probably didn't mean it like that, but it kind of rubbed me the wrong way.  
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    I didn't mean it like that, but I see how it could've come across that way. 
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    [QUOTE]Seriously. What kind of friend says "Oh you should leave your abusive husband, but don't divorce him." SERIOUSLY. HOW MANY SORTS OF FUCKED IS THAT?!
    Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]
    She wouldn't say "don't divorce him."  She just wouldn't say anything about divorce at all, and if asked, would refuse to respond.  But if the abused friend was thinking about getting an abortion, she'd tell her not to, because that advice is OK to give.
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    Chelsea, do you realize all the things marriage does to tie you to another person? Because the way you're speaking makes me think you don't. At all.

    This hypothetical person would still be tied to her abuser if she didn't divorce him. How? Finances, mutual purchases, home ownership, etc. He could continue to destroy her life in so many ways. The idea that you would not advise a friend to take ALL of the steps needed to protect herself and only the ones that are convenient to your deluded logic really concerns me. I hope none of your friends find themselves in this situation with you as their sounding board. I would have no hestiation in telling my best friends to divorce their husbands if they were being abusive, because the next step could easily be freezing her cards, stopping payments on things, finding her based on her spending habits, etc. Your response shows me how clueless you are about the real world and the way things work.
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    First off all, congratulations DJ! I saw your ticker in another thread and jacked it but I'm not sure if you saw it. I'm so happy for you!

    In other news, I'm sorry that my excitement for getting married (sorry, I'm an excitable person. I thought y'all knew that by now) bothered anyone and I can guarentee that it wasn't just so I could have sex. We made the choice to wait and I noticed a while ago that I'd brought it up a lot so I stopped unless someone else made a comment about it. I'm not going to ignore someone because they brought it up thinking that people are sick of hearing it. I'm also not a mind reader. If I'm talking about something too much, tell me.

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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_flame-some-shiiit-tuesday?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:a27968be-62b2-4ac3-914d-054ec8ef8b08Post:a558e602-c317-4fe1-8d93-6e04e961ccbc">Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Oh FFS. where did I ever say she SHOULD stay legally tied to him? ALL I SAID was she needs to decide if the ACTUAL DIVORCE (i.e. the PAPERS) should happen.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

    FFS yourself.  You said, and I quote:
    "You could choose to just separate (for whatever reason) and you could be safe the rest of your life."

    "Just separating" =/= divorcing, hence the legally tied part.

    P.S. - you can keep your sanctimonious all caps to yourself.  I'm not the dumbass here.
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    [QUOTE]Seriously. What kind of friend says "Oh you should leave your abusive husband, but don't divorce him." SERIOUSLY. HOW MANY SORTS OF FUCKED IS THAT?!
    Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

    Again, where did I say she SHOULDN'T divorce him?!? If she flat out asks me if she should divorce him, I'd help her weigh the options, but emphasize that the decision is hers.
     
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    [QUOTE]Chels, seriously.  Why is it ok to advise someone to not get an abortion but NOT okay to advise someone to get a divorce?  In either situation, the person still has the ultimate choice to abort or not get a divorce.  What is the difference?  
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    I *think* she said last night because abortion is murder. She would always tell someone not to murder someone else.
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    [QUOTE]Thanks, Midge! Love your wedding pictures!
    Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]

    Thanks DJ!



    I know this is mixing FFF and AYG but there are people here from both so whatever. I really hate the "no one can flame midge" thing. It makes me feel like a child which I got enough of from my parents.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : She started a thread asking what you would change about your wedding. There is a difference. I'm not saying she cant give advice about a wedding. I just know as someone who's been divorced twice, the last thing on my mind when your marriage is in trouble is gee I should have had a different venue. Answer questions of brides all day long, just dont start threads about doing it differently. Smash- I personally feel like divorced people learn a lot from the expercience, that newly marrieds can benefit from.
    Posted by kd.joseph[/QUOTE]

    I know we're pretty much past this, but thanks for posting this and wording it this way.  I didn't realize how "trite" (as AATB put it) it probably looked for me to be posting.  Or how it would come off to other people.  I'd apologize but I don't think an apology was your desired outcome, and I guess it only served to make me look bad, not anyone else.  So I'm not defending it, or apologizing for it, but thank you for calling it to my attention.  I appreciate the forwardness.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Again, where did I say she SHOULDN'T divorce him?!? If she flat out asks me if she should divorce him, I'd help her weigh the options, but emphasize that the decision is hers.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]


    Chels- what you are utterly missing here is that if your friend was being seriously abused and came to you and said- this is happening but I can't/won't leave, you would say- ok before you would dare say the D word. In which case, you are a shitty friend and a shittier human being. YES- the ultimate decision should be the victims but TRUE friends would advocate for her and the only way to save her would be to get out of the situation. Entirely.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Again, where did I say she SHOULDN'T divorce him?!? If she flat out asks me if she should divorce him, I'd help her weigh the options, but emphasize that the decision is hers.
    Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]

    OF COURSE the decision is hers, advice is not law. It's <em>advising</em> the person to do what you think is the best thing for them. Which, to any sane person, would be to divorce her abusive husband.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : Chels- what you are utterly missing here is that if your friend was being seriously abused and came to you and said- this is happening but I can't/won't leave, you would say- ok before you would dare say the D word. In which case, you are a shitty friend and a shittier human being. YES- the ultimate decision should be the victims but<strong> TRUE friends would advocate for her and the only way to save her would be to get out of the situation. Entirely.
    </strong>Posted by Starmusica[/QUOTE]

    Very well put.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Flame Some Shiiit Tuesday : So much of this. Honestly, I try not to get into the Chelsea hamster wheel of shame, but for God's sake. Your (Chels) advice has been terrible and frankly reached dangerous. <strong>It's great that you have had such an easy life that you don't understand the depth that an abusive situation can entail, but good grief, your amazingly naive view of the world is just beyond words. BEYOND</strong>.
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    <div>I agree with you rachers. Chelsea, while I don't necessarily want unpleasant things to happen you, I think there is a lot of growing up/realization that comes with either yourself or even your close friends being in circumstances where you previously have sat up on your high horse and judged people for. </div><div>
    </div><div>Everyone is very frustrated with people that come off as super-judgemental/better than thou, and it almost makes me wish you would be in the situation for a minute and realize you have extremely close-minded views and things are not so clear cut.</div>
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    AllAboutTheBenjaminAllAboutTheBenjamin member
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    K, just wondering then chels - would you ever advise a friend to break up with her boyfriend?  Or drop a friend who treated her like crap?
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    i know someone said something the other day, but AATB, every time I see your picture, I imagine what happens to that poor little boy when he gets to the bottom of the slide and I cringe!
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    Blueyed228Blueyed228 member
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    I honestly dont know what you guys are looking for from Chels.  Its her opinion.  Its incredibly ignorant and stupid, but are you all expecting her to change her opinion?
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    chelseamb11chelseamb11 member
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    I know I've never been in this situation. And hey, maybe my tune WILL change if I am. I'm not saying I'll never change.  People grow and change all the time.  Are my views very conservative and not the mainstream?  Of course they are. They always have been and will generally probably always be.  It probably isn't fair for me to say "Yep this is how I'd react in this situation" when I haven't been in it.  I was just explaining how I'd handle a hypothetical situation that hopefully will never arrive.  Naive Chelsea is being naive.  Believe me, it frustrates me even more than it frustrates you guys.
     
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