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cfibelkorn

I think some people misunderstood what I meant. I understand that different cultures have different ways of going about marriage.

Example: (Totally made up but so you understand what i mean) I am talking about the girl who has been with her boyfriend for under two years, they haven't even talked about an official commitment and she is on here posting about wedding related stuff. I just figure WHOA hold your horses! If you are truely meant for one another and do plan on spending the rest of your lives together (which we can assume is about 50 years) you can wait another couple of years to start planning a wedding.

Tiffany618

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[QUOTE]Overstepping much?  At least we were not given a car seat as a wedding present.
Posted by shortgirltx[/QUOTE]

Bahahahahahaa!!   Thank you for the Friday laugh, and thank goodness she's just a coworker and not your MIL.  Yikes.

NMac2010

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[QUOTE]I flame Natalie for making us wait so long to see her wedding pictures! (: Nosy people want to see!!! (But I did understand your reasoning!) 
Posted by brooke.anne[/QUOTE]

Hah! Sorry :( I know, I'm a bad knottie!

shortgirltx

We went to 2 bridal show things before we were engaged, both were suggested by DH as something to do a few months before the proposal.  We joked about 8 months into our relationship that we should get married on NYE but it wasn't until about 6 months before the proposal that we were seriously debating 12/31/09 or 12/31/10.  If I could rewind time and get our money back, we wouldn't have gone to either.

DFWIndian

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[QUOTE]Oh and no proposal = no engagement, sorry. 
Posted by stephiehall[/QUOTE]

I know it's a small part of what you said, but I don't agree. Sorry.

brooke.anne

Oh, I also flame the Duggar family for being so nonsensical, hypocritical and just downright disgusting. If she pops another kid out I think she needs to be diagnosed as clinically insane. For reals.

mseale

While I had been with my then bf for over 2 years, and we had been talking about marriage quite often, I was not about to start any planning for a wedding.  I waited until he popped the question, and then I got in high gear (we married 8 months later)! 

As for the Quran (Koran), it technically can be spelled either way in English.  Since it is an Arabic name, the English spelling is based on pronunciation, and they both are considered grammatically correct.  However, I agree with everyone's posts that this should not be burned.  It is so disrespectful, right up there with burning the bible or American flag.

What gets me is that Obama says that he is fine with them building the Mosque next to ground zero, because they have every right (which they do), but will not try and meet with them to persuade them differently since it offends the victims of 911.  But he will send all of his department heads to meet with this guy to persuade him not to burn the Koran, since it will offend Muslims.  Baloney!

cfibelkorn

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[QUOTE]Hee, sorry, Renee sort of beat me to it.  I just hate it when people who profess to be "Christians" and preachers of the Gospel show NONE of the tolerance, respect, and love that Christ himself emanated.  The people responsible for 9-11 bombed the World Trade Center because they were EVIL, not because they were Muslim.  This so-called "preacher's" actions are no less extreme and only fuel the existing hatred of Christians and Americans.  This hatred is not of the God that I know and serve. Oh and no proposal = no engagement, sorry. 
Posted by stephiehall[/QUOTE]

It boils down to ignorance. If you are a "Christian" then you should do your best (because not everyone is perfect, we can all agree to that) to follow that lifestyle...which does not include defaming other religions.

I feel like they should take a second to try and learn about other religions and cultures to see what it is exactly that they "hate" so much. Because surely this "Christian" cannot grasp that the Muslim religion believes in the same God that Christians do...the main difference of the belief is in Jesus vs. Mohammed

But besides that point, because religion is never a good thing to debate on chat forums haha
 
I will never understand someone claiming to be religious and then acting out of so much hatred...it is the exact opposite of what you should try to represent

DFWIndian

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[QUOTE]Hee, sorry, Renee sort of beat me to it.  I just hate it when people who profess to be "Christians" and preachers of the Gospel show NONE of the tolerance, respect, and love that Christ himself emanated.  The people responsible for 9-11 bombed the World Trade Center because they were EVIL, not because they were Muslim.  This so-called "preacher's" actions are no less extreme and only fuel the existing hatred of Christians and Americans.  This hatred is not of the God that I know and serve.  
Posted by stephiehall[/QUOTE]

Completely agree! He was totally wrong for what he did

mandaroo7

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[QUOTE]I flame girls who hang out on these boards who are not even engaged yet! Ugh...it drives me boonkers! You don't have to have a ring to be engaged but for heavens sake wait until he asks you! What is the rush to be engaged if you are happy (or not) a peice of paper (a marriage license) wont change anything....It just seems needy and desperate to me. These boards are for people planning a wedding. I never even looked at wedding related things until I was engaged...so it doesnt make since to me to try on wedding dresses before you even have a groom!!! Ok rant done! (for now haha) And yes I like Brianna as our moderator...not that Mariah wasnt good but she didn't really participate in anything. Brianna is a good moderator and posts on almost everyones post :)
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

Ok I will pipe in, I totally agree.  Stop putting the cart before the horse, what is the rush.  Ok maybe a little harsh, but I guess it depends on the situation. :)

My flame:  the girl in my area that keeps coughing and won't cover her mouth.  GRRRRRR it is so annoying. 

Ok I feel much better now!!   P.S. I am glad Brianna is our mod too!!

fallbride1109

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : religion is never a good thing to debate on chat forumsPosted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

Agree, that was why I said it might be controversial!  But it was really bugging me.

NMac2010

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[QUOTE]Oh, I also flame the Duggar family for being so nonsensical, hypocritical and just downright disgusting. If she pops another kid out I think she needs to be diagnosed as clinically insane. For reals.
Posted by brooke.anne[/QUOTE]

Yep, that's just wrong on so many levels. They need to stop. For society, for the rest of those kids, and for her own health.

mseale

So I'm not goign to flame my husband, but I am very annoyed with him.  I was in a rush yesterday morning b/c some inconsiderate person scheduled a meeting to start at 8am.  I don't usually show up until 8:30 or so, and had forgotten about it until I was almost late.  So I left my cereal bowl in the sink.  HE came home for lunch (which he never does), was annoyed that I didn't put the dish in the dishwasher, so he went and stuck it on my bed.
(note, he moved in to my house, we bought new furniture and put it in the 'guest' room, and that became our room.  Due to lack of closet space, I kept all my clothes in the old room, and he got the closet in the new room.  He put the bowl on my old bed)
I'm working on keeping the common space picked up, and am doing much better than I was before he moved in, but to me that was so passive agressive and rude.  It really ticked me off.

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yep, that's just wrong on so many levels. They need to stop. For society, for the rest of those kids, and for her own health.
Posted by NMac2010[/QUOTE]


And for the health of the future children too!! Look at all of the problems that newest one had... there comes a point where your body can't naturally support that many pregnancies.

MissAngel

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I know it's a small part of what you said, but I don't agree. Sorry.
Posted by DFWIndian[/QUOTE]

My culture partially works like yours, but in order to get to the engagement ceremony and wedding etc... the families had to meet up have a formal "understanding".  It's pretty much a proposal without getting on one knee.  And when the guy actually gets down on one knee before the formal engagement, it's just a formality at this point.

So in that sense, I would like to add to Stephie's comment:

no formal commitment/proposal = no engagement

I knew a guy that bought the ring, talked about marriage, etc.. etc.. but because his gf kept bothering him and planning stuff, it really turned him off and then they had to have a really long "talk" about waiting.  Now I'm not saying the guy is right or anything or that there may not have been other issues, but it's this comittment thing.  Maybe he wanted her to trust him and let it be and by trying to push/rush things, the full trust was not there.  So unless there is a formal commitment (or prosoal depending on your culture), there is no engagement.

cfibelkorn

Who the heck is the Duggar Family?

MissAngel

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : And for the health of the future children too!! Look at all of the problems that newest one had... there comes a point where your body can't naturally support that many pregnancies.
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

I agree.  I understand the point to pro-creation, but there is a responsibility to both you and your child's health, emotional and mental well-being, financial standing (which I don't think they have issues here).  There is no way anyone can have enough time to give enough attention to raise each child like they should be raised.  I understand the whole older children take care of the younger ones, but that's not supposed to be their main responsibility when it is the <strong><u>parents'</u></strong> responsibility.

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]Who the heck is the Duggar Family?
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

<div>They are the nuts with like 19 kids. They are a bunch of crazies! </div>

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]Who the heck is the Duggar Family?
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

GOOGLE IT WOMAN!  :)  JK... 219 kids and counting family on TLC..

<a href="http://www.duggarfamily.com/">http://www.duggarfamily.com/</a>

cfibelkorn

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : They are the nuts with like 19 kids. They are a bunch of crazies! 
Posted by brooke.anne[/QUOTE]

Goodness!! Hopefully she didn't give birth to all 19 of those hahaha

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Goodness!! Hopefully she didn't give birth to all 19 of those hahaha
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

Oh... she did.  And they want to keep having more...

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I agree.  I understand the point to pro-creation, but there is a responsibility to both you and your child's health, emotional and mental well-being, financial standing (which I don't think they have issues here).  There is no way anyone can have enough time to give enough attention to raise each child like they should be raised.  <strong>I understand the whole older children take care of the younger ones, but that's not supposed to be their main responsibility when it is the parents' responsibility.</strong>
Posted by MissAngel[/QUOTE]

<div>Exactly. That's one of my major issues with them. They have had so many kids now that there is no way they can tend to them and nurture them all in one day like a child needs, so they throw the responsibility on the older girls.</div>

rcpm44

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Oh... she did.  And they want to keep having more...
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

This I didn't know. I don't agree with this.

cfibelkorn

This is from the website!!!

"Four years later they decided to have their first child. Then, Michelle went back on the pill, but she conceived and had a miscarriage. At that point they talked with a Christian medical doctor and read the fine print in the contraceptives package. They found that while taking the pill you can get pregnant and then miscarry. They were grieved! They were Christians! They were pro-life! They realized that their selfish actions had taken the life of their child. They prayed and asked God to forgive them, and to teach them to love children like He loves children. They asked God to bless them with as many children as He saw fit in His timing."

What a bunch of nuts!!!

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Goodness!! Hopefully she didn't give birth to all 19 of those hahaha
Posted by cfibelkorn[/QUOTE]

<div>Oh yes, and the last baby was born <em>severely </em>premature. But they think children are "God's blessings" and any type of BC is shunned. I think children are blessings also but I don't think that means that everybody should go around reproducing 20 kids. </div>

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : This I didn't know. I don't agree with this.
Posted by rcpm44[/QUOTE]

I don't either!

They want to "have as many as God blesses them with"

BanannaP

It's true that there is a slightly higher chance of complications/miscarriage if you get pregnant while on the pill or other forms of birth control. But, it's still 99% effective if you use it correctly, so that means your chance of miscarriage while on the pill comes out to something like .02%? 

I agree that the Duggars are whack. But I still watch the show if it's on.

AmberMarieTX

For the record, I was a member long before I was engaged but only because I was looking at a friend's wedding stuff on here and at one point it asked for my login info, so I had to do something. My posts didn't start until I was engaged! Woohoo! lol

And for those who found the knot after they were engaged, that could be part of the reason why you were never on the knot or thinking about vendors until after you were engaged? Just a thought!

bsn1752

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[QUOTE] I agree that the Duggars are whack. But I still watch the show if it's on.
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

HA. Me too!

BanannaP

I have to flame Katy Perry for having such catchy songs. I've had "Teenage Dream" stuck in my head for about three days now!