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lesalyric

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Exactly. That's one of my major issues with them. They have had so many kids now that there is no way they can tend to them and nurture them all in one day like a child needs, so they throw the responsibility on the older girls.
Posted by brooke.anne[/QUOTE]

There is a forum for this show over on TV Without Pity and they refer to the daughters as J-slaves. So fitting.

My take on the Duggars is that they always had 20 in mind as the magic number. It makes me sick because the older girls on the show have been quoted as saying that they know their mom's cycle like their own. Every female in that house knows when the parents are doing it and they know the second she is pregnant.

I also think the whole "we are open to having another kid" article in people, was a PR softening the blow for when they announce #20. They know people are going to be pissed after #19 was so early. I think she is already pregnant.

bsn1752

Uh-oh... I feel a flame coming on!

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]It's true that there is a slightly higher chance of complications/miscarriage if you get pregnant while on the pill or other forms of birth control. But, it's still 99% effective if you use it correctly , so that means your chance of miscarriage while on the pill comes out to something like .02%? <strong> <span style="font-weight:normal;" class="Apple-style-span">I agree that the Duggars are whack.</span> But I still watch the show if it's on.</strong>
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Guilty!

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cfibelkorn

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[QUOTE]Uh-oh... I feel a flame coming on!
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

Share, Share!!!

lesalyric

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[QUOTE]I have to flame Katy Perry for having such catchy songs. I've had "Teenage Dream" stuck in my head for about three days now!
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

I have Sirius and there is a top 40 channel that literally plays this song every 20 minutes or so. I have come to hate it. :(

mseale

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[QUOTE]Uh-oh... I feel a flame coming on!
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

??? don't leave us hanging!

shortgirltx

While I think it is the parents responsibilty to take care of their own kids, I've never witnessed an older kid who wasn't responsible for their siblings at one point or another. 

BanannaP

Lesa, I feel that way about every Katy Perry song. I always love them at first, but they get so overplayed and old. It's a shame.

bsn1752

Flaming makes me feel snarky.

But I don't understand the whole throw away plates and disposable champagne glasses for a wedding... it just seems so... not very nice to me.

Unless you're having a wedding at a dance hall or somewhere MAJOR casual... I think your plates/glasses should be actual glass.

This message was inspired by a recent post.  Please, keep the real glasses.

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]While I think it is the parents responsibilty to take care of their own kids, I've never witnessed an older kid who wasn't responsible for their siblings at one point or another. 
Posted by shortgirltx[/QUOTE]

<div>That's a whole different ballpark. The Duggar's (parents) focus on the newest baby, especially now with the preemie, and leave the other kids in the care of the older girls. It's not like an everyday sibling relationship, like having to watch your sibling for a little while, playing with them, helping them and so on. They have 4 kids under the age of 5 right now who are at some of the most important years of their development, I just don't think they are able to provide that.</div>

BanannaP

I'm using plastic plates and glasses, and I don't care what my guests think! I have a lot more things I'd rather spend my money on. If I've done my job right, my guests will be having too good of a time to even notice!

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]I'm using plastic plates and glasses, and I don't care what my guests think! I have a lot more things I'd rather spend my money on. If I've done my job right, my guests will be having too good of a time to even notice!
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

Haha... it was inspired by another post... selling the glasses to get plastic ones.  Just keep em!

And what kind of plastic?  When I think plastic.. I think


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tam427

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[QUOTE]Oh, I also flame the Duggar family for being so nonsensical, hypocritical and just downright disgusting. If she pops another kid out I think she needs to be diagnosed as clinically insane. For reals.
Posted by brooke.anne[/QUOTE]

Totally agree with you there! Just because you CAN reproduce doesn't mean you SHOULD. I feel bad for the older kids for having to play the mommy role and I feel bad for the younger kids for not getting as much attention from the parents as the older kids. UGH. On top of this, I flame Kate Gosselin too.

NMac2010

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[QUOTE]Flaming makes me feel snarky. But I don't understand the whole throw away plates and disposable champagne glasses for a wedding... it just seems so... not very nice to me. Unless you're having a wedding at a dance hall or somewhere MAJOR casual... I think your plates/glasses should be actual glass. This message was inspired by a recent post.  Please, keep the real glasses.
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

Oh Brianna, I love you :)

We used disposable plates AND cups/champagne glasses at our wedding. It was easier, cheaper, and nobody cared. Not to mention, way less clean up afterwards, and we didn't have to worry about anything being broken on accident. We had several rowdy guests, as well as small children.

brooke.anne

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[QUOTE]I'm using plastic plates and glasses, and I don't care what my guests think! I have a lot more things I'd rather spend my money on. If I've done my job right, my guests will be having too good of a time to even notice!
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

<div>Me too! It was one of those things that yah, it would be nice but I'd rather save in that area. Plus they are nice plastic (oxymoron?!) and a lot thicker and look more formal-ish.</div>

NMac2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : And what kind of plastic?  When I think plastic.. I think
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

I don't even know what kind of plates, that's how much I don't remember/didn't care. The caterer provided the plates for the food, and we bought clear plastic cups and champagne/wine glasses at Party City.

MsLaura31

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[QUOTE]I'm using plastic plates and glasses, and I don't care what my guests think! I have a lot more things I'd rather spend my money on. If I've done my job right, my guests will be having too good of a time to even notice!
Posted by BanannaP[/QUOTE]

I agree with you. I'm actually having real glassware and dinnerware, but I do not think they're necessary. If your party is fun enough and the food is good, no one will care.

MissAngel

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[QUOTE]While I think it is the parents responsibilty to take care of their own kids, I've never witnessed an older kid who wasn't responsible for their siblings at one point or another. 
Posted by shortgirltx[/QUOTE]

I'm not saying that older children shouldn't have responsibilities raising the younger ones (this is how Montessori schools work), because it always happens and I think it's good to have them learn responsibility, sharing, etc... and they have to baby sit sometimes too...

I'm talking about 19 kids, I don't know their ages, but at least 9 are under 12.  So if you have 24 hours in a day and then calculate about 7 hours for sleeping, the two younger ones probably need 30 minute feedings every 4 hours.  Then you have to cook, do homework, etc... etc... when do you have time to bond with every child every day?

I am the oldest of 5 children and had A LOT of responsibilities with my younger siblings because we were spaced out.  It was hard for my parents to give attention to every child as much as they needed (and each child is different).  I couldn't imagine 19 of us.  I had to go to counseling when I got older because I had to learn the boundaries between being a parent (with true authority) and just being a sister (can give guidance, but cannot expect to be treated as a true authority, because I'm not one).

Just saying...

seujoanne

Banana, I have been in-my-head-singing "California Girls" all.dang.morning.

Save me!

lesalyric

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[QUOTE]Flaming makes me feel snarky. But I don't understand the whole throw away plates and disposable champagne glasses for a wedding... it just seems so... not very nice to me. Unless you're having a wedding at a dance hall or somewhere MAJOR casual... I think your plates/glasses should be actual glass. This message was inspired by a recent post.  Please, keep the real glasses.
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

We are using plastic plates and cups too. The plates are the clear thicker plastic, but they are still plastic nonetheless.

It was a money thing for us - our budget was so tight by the time we got to the caterer, we had to cut everywhere we could. I agree with PP that it will probably be easier for clean-up and no one will really even care.

Regarding selling the wine glasses - I have to agree with her, using plastic plates and real wine glasses just seems like more of a hassle than going plastic-plastic.

bsn1752

OK - revised flame.

You're right... nice plastic plates... I can dig.

But if you have the glasses already... keep em.

Ugh, no more flaming for me. I enjoy reading everyone else but MAN I hate doing it!

SoonToBeMrsHoz

I may be a little late on this.. but I didn't understand the need to start planning before the engagement and why there was a need to encourage it.

I totally understand if you are bound of religious, cultural, or other reasons out of your control to start planning your wedding, but why jump the gun if you are not obligated?

So many things can happen over such a long period of time, and why not enjoy each phase of the relationship as is, and let things flow naturally? Dresses, venues, photographers, etc. will always be there.

I am not discounting the relationship or anything like that, but  I don't understand why a person would want to plan their wedding prior to actually being engaged.

NMac2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF :  Regarding selling the wine glasses - I have to agree with her, using plastic plates and real wine glasses just seems like more of a hassle than going plastic-plastic.
Posted by lesalyric[/QUOTE]

I agree. She could get some money on those glasses. Why use real glasses when you're going plastic on the plates. It's more of a hassle than you probably think.

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]I may be a little late on this.. but I didn't understand the need to start planning before the engagement and why there was a need to encourage it. I totally understand if you are bound of religious, cultural, or other reasons out of your control to start planning your wedding, but why jump the gun if you are not obligated? <strong>So many things can happen over such a long period of time, and why not enjoy each phase of the relationship as is, and let things flow naturally? Dresses, venues, photographers, etc. will always be there.</strong> I am not discounting the relationship or anything like that, but  I don't understand why a person would want to plan their wedding prior to actually being engaged.
Posted by SoonToBeMrsHoz[/QUOTE]

I agree 110%.  I didn't plan ANYTHING until we were engaged... but I feel like I should have waited even a couple months longer to book anything.  And our engagement is right at a year long... there are SO many options out there... and I really thought that I researched a ton, but it turns out, I missed alot of options.

mseale

This is what I think about when people use plastic.  They can be white or clear.  We almost went that route, but it wasn't much more to go with glass, so we decided to upgrade.

bsn1752

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[QUOTE]This is what I think about when people use plastic.  They can be white or clear.  We almost went that route, but it wasn't much more to go with glass, so we decided to upgrade.
Posted by mseale[/QUOTE]

The 2nd picture is plastic?!?!?!

cfibelkorn

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[QUOTE]OK - revised flame. You're right... nice plastic plates... I can dig. But if you have the glasses already... keep em. Ugh, no more flaming for me. I enjoy reading everyone else but MAN I hate doing it!
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

Well, I agree...I prefer real dinnerware

Although I was at Target the other day and saw some really nice plates that I didn't even know were plastic until I picked them up....they looked like glass! I was freaking out and FI was looking at me like I had lost my mind but I was really fascinated by how real they looked hahaha I know Im lame :)

bsn1752

I flame all of you for not agreeing with me!  *hmph*

  totally kidding... FFF has been great the last few weeks!

cherrrylll

Hi people! I'm lurking today.

I don't get the big deal made by so many people about pregnancy test pictures. If I saw someone's positive results, I'd be excited for them, not think "OMG, once upon a time, the last inch of that test that's hiding under that cap had urine on it!!" Seriously. It's really not that gross.

mseale

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : The 2nd picture is plastic?!?!?!
Posted by bsn1752[/QUOTE]

Yup.  At least, that is what the website claims.... :)