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salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:a666c307-07d5-4891-80ba-110090b99fd6">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Late to this, but I agree with LilG about it being variably okay and not okay to defend people in FFF. I know, I know, the rules aren't rules, etc., but this is definitely one of those things here that seems to apply to some people but not others. 
Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

<div>Yep. Just like it variably ok for people to turn a blind eye to certain people's 'etiquette violations' or other things that we would jump all over anyone else for. I just thought it was funny coming from the source.</div>

J&K10910

Oh, but Nebb, you're wrong.  I CAN see you

wadingmoose

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:757daeb2-7433-4eb9-ab1d-8b42917b59ff">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, I also would like to put out a general flame to all the people who think it's "ok" to say that the subject (for lack of a better word) of a mascot (ie, the Sioux) shouldn't be offended, or that they're being too sensitive, etc.  Especially if said people saying this are NOT of Sioux descent.  I'm glad it's ok to tell other people how they should feel about something that has nothing to do with you.  It shouldn't matter how YOU feel about it, if they're offended, then they're offended and that's their right. 
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

See, this whole argument amuses me.  My high school team was the warriors.  Complete with profile of a native in full feathered headdress.    It was demanded that that be changed.

Now it's a trojan/greek warrior in profile which is apparently A-ok.

salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:d59f9f6e-237c-4cef-9414-658d5837de72">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Luckyme sucks.
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]

<div>Oh come on now. You know you're just saying that because we're friends!</div>

Nebb

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:9984d44f-2103-46c6-810e-68eb88026c50">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, but Nebb, you're wrong.  I CAN see you ;)
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]
I THOUGHT I heard something outside earlier. *waves*

wadingmoose

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:a1bc6349-5a73-487d-8cde-23e319f2b116">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yep. Just like it variably ok for people to turn a blind eye to certain people's 'etiquette violations' or other things that we would jump all over anyone else for. I just thought it was funny coming from the source.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Why, Salt!  We here at E would NEVER, EVER selectively give advice on etiquette topics.  Nope.  We keep it real and aren't afraid to tell you things you don't want to hear!  Yup, we do.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

This may be beating a dead horse, but LisaTyler didn't bug me that much until this:

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_reception-ideas_pet-peeves-things-dont-work-out-planned?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:5Discussion:e7f103da-fb11-49ab-b4a3-4c15db5f61bePost:f88bdb7f-1a2d-4861-9682-0a688f0b6b07">Re: Pet peeves and things that don't work out as planned</a>:
[QUOTE]3. Brides holding beer bottles- looks so trashy! 4.I've been to one wedding, when I was a kid, in a firehouse for some strange, country livin cousins and that was- um- different.
Posted by LisaTyler1984[/QUOTE]

Beer bottles? Ok. Don't look at my wedding pics, then.

And eff you, my parents got married at a firehall. This is what it looks like:


<a href="#" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '86722cd1-119c-4eda-8334-f9d9e3cace28', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));"> <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/6/3/86722cd1-119c-4eda-8334-f9d9e3cace28.medium.jpg" alt="" /></a>

It's REALLY nice on the inside. My grandparents' 50th anniversary party was there, too.

squirrly

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:757daeb2-7433-4eb9-ab1d-8b42917b59ff">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, I also would like to put out a general flame to all the people who think it's "ok" to say that the subject (for lack of a better word) of a mascot (ie, the Sioux) shouldn't be offended, or that they're being too sensitive, etc.  Especially if said people saying this are NOT of Sioux descent.  I'm glad it's ok to tell other people how they should feel about something that has nothing to do with you.  It shouldn't matter how YOU feel about it, if they're offended, then they're offended and that's their right. 
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]


I'm going to be specific right back. 

Situation - subject publicly states that they are NOT offended.  Non subject states that they are.  Athletic commission refuses to let the team play until the mascot is changed.

Pretty sure that's what Fishy said about the local school she was talking about.  Where, exactly, do the non Sioux get off telling people that the Sioux MUST be offended?    I agree with your "don't tell me what I feel" sentiment, but the front half of your argument doesn't match the situation I think you're trying to flame.

J&K10910

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:51189cf1-e6e3-4861-8d77-947a9bd9ffd1">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : See, this whole argument amuses me.  My high school team was the warriors.  Complete with profile of a native in full feathered headdress.    It was demanded that that be changed. Now it's a trojan/greek warrior in profile which is apparently A-ok.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

That makes sense.

In Crazytown.

NuggetBrain

I concur with the "LuckyMe has a sandy vag lately" bandwagon.  That's kind of all I've got.

Nebb

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:58b55c54-1f9b-49b9-ae94-c27b66073d14">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]This may be beating a dead horse, but LisaTyler didn't bug me that much until this: In Response to Re: Pet peeves and things that don't work out as planned : <strong>Beer bottles? Ok. Don't look at my wedding pics, then</strong>. And eff you, my parents got married at a firehall. This is what it looks like: It's REALLY nice on the inside. My grandparents' 50th anniversary party was there, too.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
I guess I wont show off my wedding photos of me shotgunning a can of beer <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-embarassed.gif" border="0" alt="Embarassed" title="Embarassed" />

kate51485

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:51189cf1-e6e3-4861-8d77-947a9bd9ffd1">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : See, this whole argument amuses me.  My high school team was the warriors.  Complete with profile of a native in full feathered headdress.    It was demanded that that be changed. Now it's a trojan/greek warrior in profile which is apparently A-ok.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Actually that is a really good point.  My high school's mascot is the Chieftains, which people got up in arms about (nevermind the fact that the town was built by a Native American Chief)...and right down the road are the Michigan State Spartans, which nobody's ever made a peep about.

wadingmoose

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:093a214b-4f72-4ff6-9511-61e36a290056">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : That makes sense. In Crazytown.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]


Actually, that statement there explains a lot.  Yes, I think it's safe to say I grew up in Crazytown.

J&K10910

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:630c5983-3f77-448b-9dab-a5333897d32a">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm going to be specific right back.  Situation - subject publicly states that they are NOT offended.  Non subject states that they are.  Athletic commission refuses to let the team play until the mascot is changed. Pretty sure that's what Fishy said about the local school she was talking about.  Where, exactly, do the non Sioux get off telling people that the Sioux MUST be offended?    I agree with your "don't tell me what I feel" sentiment, but the front half of your argument doesn't match the situation I think you're trying to flame.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

Except that when I was there, going to school, there were at least a couple tribes that were offended.  Perhaps that has changed, but as far as I know, there are still two tribes that are not in support of keeping the Fighting Sioux nickname. 

ETA:  Also, as I said in Fishy's post, from what I know, it's not so much the name as the sacred eagle feather all over the floor of the Alerus for everyone to walk on.

salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:b42db8ae-5dde-4dcf-bdaa-33077471bb82">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]I flame the girl on my local who asked for a reception venue recommendation with this specification: "The reception needs to be able to sit about 100 because were having just a family and close friends dinner and then we need room for about close to 500 for dancing."
Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

<div>Normally I give an eyeroll to people who flame people off this board, but that is ridonkulous.</div>

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:bd4f9b94-ebb2-40cd-bc35-62f75d0a5d1c">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]That chick who was super nasty to us right off after having written a convoluted post about inviting people who were gay.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

She usually only posts on my club board, but I haven't seen her around AT ALL since that incident.

AmoroAgain

So, I was taking a nap, but seriously, I'm still excited to move to Sweden, but because I'm house hunting and finding crap and can't have a dog, that's complaining? That's a stupid thing to say.  Seriously. 

And you guys who think that people who live in a different country don't have the right to complain JUST because they happen to have had the opportunity to be there.  You guys have shiit days and have crap that goes wrong, and guess what?  That doesn't change when you move somewhere that's paradise or what YOU think paradise is.  If you want to live overseas, then go do it and stop bitching about how you won't have the opportunity ever.  But don't punish me because you think my life *has* to be better because of where I live. 

beatlesgirl25

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:a1bc6349-5a73-487d-8cde-23e319f2b116">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yep. Just like it variably ok for people to turn a blind eye to certain people's 'etiquette violations' or other things that we would jump all over anyone else for. I just thought it was funny coming from the source.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Salt, I'm confused. Did I violate ur etikut? (p.s. I really am confused)

laladypoet

welp, I will be reading this now

temerityjane

Oh, I always forget I can bring things in from other boards, as well. There's been a post on the military brides forum for a while (it's a slow board) that pretty much just says, "I'm marrying a guy in the air force and he won't wear his uniform for the wedding. Sad face."

And that's it.

I said something reasonable in response, but mostly I've just been thinking how cruel it is of her fiance to not allow himself to be paraded around for all her dream wedding needs.

salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:f01b2fd3-0712-450f-98fc-50dcc5c20bfe">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Salt, I'm confused. Did I violate ur etikut? (p.s. I really am confused)
Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

<div>Nope. Not you. :)</div>

wadingmoose

I flame the knot for not having a pearl clutching emoticon.  I think this is absolutely necessary for a proper etiquette board!

lilgina64

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:4e855017-5d3a-4c75-9997-28e58c8aa896">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Nope. Not you. :)
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Me? what did i do?

squirrly

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:250d46fa-5fd4-49df-b6aa-9d2e3d83212d">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Except that when I was there, going to school, there were at least a couple tribes that were offended.  Perhaps that has changed, but as far as I know, there are still two tribes that are not in support of keeping the Fighting Sioux nickname.  ETA:  Also, as I said in Fishy's post, from what I know, it's not so much the name as the sacred eagle feather all over the floor of the Alerus for everyone to walk on.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

I really wish you'd said all of THAT up front.  Cause what you threw out there was ambiguous and silly.  This = better.

NuggetBrain

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:4e855017-5d3a-4c75-9997-28e58c8aa896">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Nope. Not you. :)
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

I don't know if I violated any Saltiquette, but I did violate one of the commandments by coveting the SmartCar.  *Repents*

salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:a1a57a59-08e4-474f-b8ea-03fcfda47cfa">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Me? what did i do?
Posted by lilgina64[/QUOTE]

<div>Regardless of your reasons behind it (which I'm not saying aren't valid), no one has ever once given you any crap for having two weddings. If you were some random or new person that no one knows, I'm willing to bet people would have been all over you for it. </div><div>
</div><div>So there's that.</div>

salt78

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:e2c79ad8-62d4-49e0-ac89-42787e08d65d">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I don't know if I violated any Saltiquette, but I did violate one of the commandments by coveting the SmartCar.  *Repents*
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

<div>If you lived near me, I'd let you drive it!</div><div>
</div><div>And I'm not saying it's like "my etiquette" or whatever. But there is definitely special treatment for 'favorites' on this board.</div>

lilgina64

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:3ba0e08a-21dd-485e-b273-07f3e4d2059e">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Regardless of your reasons behind it (which I'm not saying aren't valid), no one has ever once given you any crap for having two weddings. If you were some random or new person that no one knows, I'm willing to bet people would have been all over you for it.  So there's that.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]


Actually when I was new I got flamed to hell for it in my first few posts. I took my fair share of crap over it. I'm fairly certain a large number of people still think it's crap. But they also said that I made the distinction of being up front and honest with every single one of my family members/friends/coworkers. AND my original ceremony was legal only. My CONVALIDATION with the church is just that. I wanted a catholic ceremony, pretty sure that's allowed.

J&K10910

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:be359090-181f-4fb5-928e-e8d356b614ed">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I really wish you'd said all of THAT up front.  Cause what you threw out there was ambiguous and silly.  This = better.
Posted by squirrly[/QUOTE]

Well I did say all that in the original thread.  I guess I didn't think I needed to repeat myself from the thread, and I wasn't aware that there were people who thought the Sioux weren't offended, or I guess I probably would have.  Now I fully admit I skimmed most of the beginning of that original thread.

danieliza1127

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-27?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:3ac7ce45-df4b-4ae7-b1ba-7e58fd34d6c0Post:a666c307-07d5-4891-80ba-110090b99fd6">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Late to this, but I agree with LilG about it being variably okay and not okay to defend people in FFF. I know, I know, the rules aren't rules, etc., but this is definitely one of those things here that seems to apply to some people but not others.
Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

That's the norm around here.  Some people get flamed for having 2 weddings, some don't.  Some people think it's okay to defend others in a FFF thread, some don't.  Pointing out hypocrisy on the boards is like pointing out that the sky is blue - yeah, we know.