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AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Regardless of your reasons behind it (which I'm not saying aren't valid), no one has ever once given you any crap for having two weddings. If you were some random or new person that no one knows, I'm willing to bet people would have been all over you for it.  So there's that.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

What?  Gina had two weddings??

pandasquishy

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[QUOTE]So, I was taking a nap, but seriously, I'm still excited to move to Sweden, but because I'm house hunting and finding crap and can't have a dog, that's complaining? That's a stupid thing to say.  Seriously.  And you guys who think that people who live in a different country don't have the right to complain JUST because they happen to have had the opportunity to be there.  You guys have shiit days and have crap that goes wrong, and guess what?  That doesn't change when you move somewhere that's paradise or what YOU think paradise is.  If you want to live overseas, then go do it and stop bitching about how you won't have the opportunity ever.  But don't punish me because you think my life *has* to be better because of where I live. 
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

<div>Amen.  Just because you live in another country doesn't mean your life is automatically peachy.  I for one can't wait to get back to the US.</div>

wadingmoose

I find it amusing that people are up in arms about some hypocrisy, but not other hypocrisy.  That in itself is probably hypocrisy.

ac_in_dc

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : See, this whole argument amuses me.  My high school team was the warriors.  Complete with profile of a native in full feathered headdress.    It was demanded that that be changed. Now it's a trojan/greek warrior in profile which is apparently A-ok.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

I don't have much of an opinion on the native american mascot thing.

But why wouldn't the trojan/greek warrior thing be a-OK? Troy was from like 2000 years ago, I don't think there's anyone left to get offended by that.

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : What?  Gina had two weddings??
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

Wish I had known that when she was all over my sh*t about my budget.

salt78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm fairly certain a large number of people still think it's crap. 
Posted by lilgina64[/QUOTE]

<div>But no one would ever say that. And if it were brought up by someone else, you know people would jump to your defense. Just the same way that I got defended. </div>

AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Amen.  Just because you live in another country doesn't mean your life is automatically peachy.  I for one can't wait to get back to the US.
Posted by pandasquishy[/QUOTE]

Panda, I must have missed where you live?

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]I find it amusing that people are up in arms about some hypocrisy, but not other hypocrisy.  That in itself is probably hypocrisy.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Holy superfluous use of the "hypocrisy" there batman.

miss.jawright

Ah my first flames and for two different things in one. I knew it would have to happen at some point. And for my first flame :JK I flame you for seeing two posts you disagree with from a person and saying a person must overall suck. I am just saying it sounds like a pretty big assumption.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I don't have much of an opinion on the native american mascot thing. But why wouldn't the trojan/greek warrior thing be a-OK? Troy was from like 2000 years ago, I don't think there's anyone left to get offended by that.
Posted by ac_in_dc[/QUOTE]


Soooo, what makes it offensive?  No really, is it offensive because people are still alive?  There are still Greeks alive.  In fact, they still have a country and everything.

danieliza1127

Amoro - I'm right there with you.  I don't understand why you shouldn't get to vent or complain about stuff just like the rest of us just because you live in a pretty country.  I live in a pretty country too, I still have complaints. 

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]I find it amusing that people are up in arms about some hypocrisy, but not other hypocrisy.  That in itself is probably hypocrisy.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

You just blew my mind.

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Soooo, what makes it offensive?  No really, is it offensive because people are still alive?  There are still Greeks alive.  In fact, they still have a country and everything.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

As a Greek, I find this highly insulting.

Kidding... I totally don't. Our sister school were the Spartans. Did it bug me? Not at all... well, maybe when they beat us... But really, no.

mandysmear

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Regardless of your reasons behind it (which I'm not saying aren't valid), no one has ever once given you any crap for having two weddings. If you were some random or new person that no one knows, I'm willing to bet people would have been all over you for it.  So there's that.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Yup.

VeronaBrit anyone??  Immigration reasons.
Breaks wanted to do it for healthcare reasons.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Amen.  Just because you live in another country doesn't mean your life is automatically peachy.  I for one can't wait to get back to the US.
Posted by pandasquishy[/QUOTE]


I'm kind of fond of living in Canada.  I think it's pretty sweet.

But I suppose it isn't the exotic country folks are talking about.

Basically, we all think that moving somewhere cool would solve all of our problems and change our lives.  But it doesn't.  It's just the same life in a different place.

pandasquishy

Amoro, I live on Grand Bahama Island.  But only for another seven days

squirrly

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Well I did say all that in the original thread.  I guess I didn't think I needed to repeat myself from the thread, and I wasn't aware that there were people who thought the Sioux weren't offended, or I guess I probably would have.  Now I fully admit I skimmed most of the beginning of that original thread.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it was there at the beginning of the thread.  I didn't see any posts from you relating to this in that one (just a callout to you).  I was referring specifically to your flame, anyway.   

salt78

Jawright - In your sig photo, you look like you have just fallen off a cliff and are laying all broken up on the ground. Maybe it's just because it's so small. 

JessAndTrav

I don't think that living abroad automatically means that life is wonderful and grand. I've told Amoro this before---it eventually loses it's sparkle and you're just living there. The people who are from Italy don't think, ZOMG! LIFE IS WONDERFUL I LIVE IN ITALY!"

It's more like, "Hm...I wonder what America is like."

That said, when people always complain, it gets really old, and I think that our nature to be somewhat jealous of the circumstances of other people makes the complaints about living abroad a little more annoying.

But more than anything, I hate when the complaints are because of [insert excuse here]

If you have a complaint, just have it. Don't throw out an excuse as to why you're complaining.*

ETA: *that goes for anyone, not just those living abroad.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : As a Greek, I find this highly insulting. Kidding... I totally don't. Our sister school were the Spartans. Did it bug me? Not at all... well, maybe when they beat us... But really, no.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]


I'm not saying it should insult you.  I'm saying that it's ridiculous to be offended by the name and image of one out of date culture (I get that natives still live here, but I think we can agree that they bear little resemblance now to what they were before the Europeans moved in) but not when that same name is used to represent another out of date culture.

Edit:  Some may call this a hypocrisy.

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Yup. VeronaBrit anyone??  Immigration reasons. Breaks wanted to do it for healthcare reasons.
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]

Scoetto did it too right?  For military reasons maybe?

AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]Amoro, I live on Grand Bahama Island.  But only for another seven days :)
Posted by pandasquishy[/QUOTE]

And where to next?

I know most of you have come around to the conclusion (about living overseas) but I know Rach has been around for some of that discussion, I can't remember who the other person was that was talking about Lynda, but come on now!  Let's think outside our little pre-programmed boxes for a bit!

beatlesgirl25

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : That's the norm around here.  Some people get flamed for having 2 weddings, some don't.  Some people think it's okay to defend others in a FFF thread, some don't.  Pointing out hypocrisy on the boards is like pointing out that the sky is blue - yeah, we know.
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

Well, that sucks then.

NuggetBrain

If people spent their entire lives trying to make sure nobody was offended by anything they did, nothing would ever get done.  Somebody's ALWAYS going to be offended.  In my personal opinion, if the people who "should" be offended aren't (as in Native Americans being upset about the Fighting Sioux) aren't, then everybody else needs to sit down and chillax.  Obviously, that doesn't go for big things like not letting people drink out of the same water fountain or vote or get married.

mandysmear

Champagne did too.  And I am sure there have been more.  but verona and breaks were the only people who got jumped on. 

I would like to take this beautiful april 16th FFF to tell y'all that i am also, music and lyrics!

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I'm not saying it should insult you.  I'm saying that it's ridiculous to be offended by the name and image of one out of date culture (I get that natives still live here, but I think we can agree that they bear little resemblance now to what they were before the Europeans moved in) but not when that same name is used to represent another out of date culture.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Oh I agree with you, I was being sarcastic. I think it's moronic quite frankly. Do we still walk around with our men in leather skirts, pike in hand? No. So what is there to be offended by? Besides the fact that, from my perspective at least, it's kind of neat that the culture gets carried on, even in the form of a mascot, because people <em>will</em> know about it. And that's really all that matters, that the history isn't forgotten.

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]Ah my first flames and for two different things in one. I knew it would have to happen at some point. And for my first flame :JK I flame you for seeing two posts you disagree with from a person and saying a person must overall suck. I am just saying it sounds like a pretty big assumption.
Posted by miss.jawright[/QUOTE]

I can only go by what you've shown me.  Also?  I have my very own Jump to Conclusions mat in my living room, and I use it on the daily.  I find it to be the best way to make judgements about people and situations.

pandasquishy

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : And where to next? 
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

<div>Miami!  *cues up Will Smith song*</div>

tidetravel

I did too.  In case anyone missed it.

salt78

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[QUOTE]I would like to take this beautiful april 16th FFF to tell y'all that i am also, music and lyrics!
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]

<div>WTF.</div><div>Ok you know I love you, but I flame you for having the lamest troll ever. I actually blocked it it was so bad and I don't block anyone.</div>