Unpopular opinions?

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I am a lurker (reg on my local board) but I wanted to tell you, it's "vai para os meios do inferno" (go to hell) or "cala-te" (shut up.) In Portuguese, we don't get Shut the hell up. :(
Posted by shanlubey[/QUOTE]

Can't you just mash 'em together and get ... erm...

"cala-te via para os meios... erm... do inferno...?"

No? Schit.

laladypoet

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I think that was football and Brett Favruhruhruh.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

so, it wasn't basketball but actually hockey, huh?

laladypoet

"cala-te via para os meios... erm... do inferno...?"
...Alejandro

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]"cala-te via para os meios... erm... do inferno...?" ...Alejandro
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

ROBERTO!

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I love that you said this about dachshunds..... they aren't real little dogs since they happily kill badgers and possums.  I seriously dislike all other little yappy sterotypical little dogs.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

Oh yes, they serve a purpose! They can be feisty, too. Buuuut I do admit that most breeds today have been bred for human purposes, mostly hunting and working. Dachshunds included. (But I still want one!)

CLSchramm

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[QUOTE]I also don't agree that people who don't like health care or have issues with how others use unemployment or are in general conservative don't care about others.  They just have different values and believe that others are better off if they are given different incentives, or if they arn't given handouts.  Being liberal doesn't mean you care more, it just means you care in particular ways.
Posted by KatyRoseM[/QUOTE]

I have nothing against health care. I like doctors quite a lot actually. And I Could have health insurance if I was willing to pay for it. I'm not.

What I do have a problem with is people whining about the cost of health care and wanting the government to do something about it. Have you (a generalizing you) been to a hospital recently? Does it look like a cheap operation to you? And does it look like an industry that's on the slow side? Welcome to Econ 101! As the demand of something rises, so will it's cost until the supply can catch up to bring the price back down. And when you mess with that equation, you can affect the quality of the product or service offered.

Thats why it bothers me.

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I've been asking this for 5 years now.  No-can-do.  I have accepted it.  Or given up.  Either way...
Posted by smokeybailey[/QUOTE]

He hasn't been doing it for five years.  He's been doing it since I lost my job.

salt78

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[QUOTE]I didn't realize OJ had a doppelganger
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

<div>Sort of. Without the whole actually killing someone part of it. Or any cool car chases. </div>

ohwhynot

Nugget, I am completely on your side on this one.  I don't think,  though, that the "unemployed people should do the housework" even applies to you - like you said, there's a big difference between doing the housework and not acting like a damn slob.

shanlubey

Cale-te para os meios do inferno translated to shut up to the depths of hell.

In this instance it works, Fernando.

L-Bride

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Oh no he's not small by any means. He's giant and will rip your face off. Or stab you to death, which is what he was arrested for like 10 years ago. He was acquitted though. Wrong place at the wrong time and all that. 
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

I thought he used to be considered "small" for a linebacker. I don't really know details about players who haven't played for the Pats though.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Why do you think they are selfish?
Posted by MidniteRae[/QUOTE]

Not seeing the big picture. Environmental impact. I think parental one-on-one time is severely diminished in large families, leading the older children to take on a greater role in caretaking, which is unfair. I think the younger children have a diminished quality of life because of it. It makes it hard to support the children financially, including educational expenses, which is important to me.

FutureMrsTR

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Seriously. Ray Lewis will kill you.  Ahhhh no one is going to get that joke at all. 
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

I got it :)  And I CQTM

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]Cale-te para os meios do inferno translated to shut up to the depths of hell. In this instance it works, Fernando.
Posted by shanlubey[/QUOTE]

Perfect! And points for Fernando ;)

shanlubey

Damnit, now the song is stuck in my head.

KatyRoseM

Um, I don't think I got across my point there, but thats ok, I can go off on what you said anyway.  Yes people should pay for their healthcare, however the current cost is far above what it needs to be.  If Doctors were not so afraid of being sued they could do what they need to do without extra tests, that are expensive and useless.  Not everyone who goes into the ER needs a chest x-ray, in fact most don't but almost everyone will get one, why?  Because if you have a strange illness that can be caught on a chest x-ray and are not given one you will sue.  Also, people should pay their bills.  Hospitals up the charge for things to compensate for all the people who don't pay.  

However my original point was to the person who said someone didn't care for others because she was opposed to Obama, the healthcare reform, and a few other things.  Not supporting that doesn't mean you don't care, it means you believe that people will be better off with incentives.  I'm probably still not making sense, its been a thing with me today.

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]Nugget, I am completely on your side on this one.  I don't think,  though, that the "unemployed people should do the housework" even applies to you - like you said, there's a big difference between doing the housework and not acting like a damn slob.
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

You might be right, however I am feeling extra sensitive today and reserve the right to get butthurt about posts even if they weren't directed at me.

allisong23

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I have nothing against health care. I like doctors quite a lot actually. And I Could have health insurance if I was willing to pay for it. I'm not. What I do have a problem with is people whining about the cost of health care and wanting the government to do something about it. Have you (a generalizing you) been to a hospital recently? Does it look like a cheap operation to you? And does it look like an industry that's on the slow side? Welcome to Econ 101! As the demand of something rises, so will it's cost until the supply can catch up to bring the price back down. And when you mess with that equation, you can affect the quality of the product or service offered. Thats why it bothers me.
Posted by CLSchramm[/QUOTE]

Actually, there are a ton of hospitals that are closing (St. Vincent's Hospital in NYC, which was the major trauma center in lower Manhattan, to name one), so I would have to disagree with you there. St. V's had a large population of uninsured patients that they wound up having to cover the costs for. Now, St. V's is gone, and all those people will be overloading other hospitals, causing a domino effect. The cost of providing treatment to uninsured patiens is one of the major reasons for the high cost of health care. Give these people access to primary care, and they won't need to use ERs as their primary doctor.

Celles

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : I'm totally with you, but then again I'm one of those liberal <strong>Save-A-Gay-Communist-Baby-Seal</strong> types that actually gives a tiny rat's ass about others. Life must be so easy when you don't give a damn about anyone but yourself.
Posted by I Want Cake[/QUOTE]

I have that t-shirt. For reals.

CLSchramm

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[QUOTE]Um, I don't think I got across my point there, but thats ok, I can go off on what you said anyway.  Yes people should pay for their healthcare, however the current cost is far above what it needs to be.  If Doctors were not so afraid of being sued they could do what they need to do without extra tests, that are expensive and useless.  Not everyone who goes into the ER needs a chest x-ray, in fact most don't but almost everyone will get one, why?  Because if you have a strange illness that can be caught on a chest x-ray and are not given one you will sue.  Also, people should pay their bills.  Hospitals up the charge for things to compensate for all the people who don't pay.   However my original point was to the person who said someone didn't care for others because she was opposed to Obama, the healthcare reform, and a few other things.  Not supporting that doesn't mean you don't care, it means you believe that people will be better off with incentives.  I'm probably still not making sense, its been a thing with me today.
Posted by KatyRoseM[/QUOTE]

I understand what you're saying, but I think, even though we can all agree the price is crazy, that it's justified. You pretty much said it yourself: the general public makes the price what it is themselves with their foolishness (aka the sue happy people). I still don't want the goverment dictating the price of health care; if they want to require everyone to have insurance, fine, but let the insurance companies compete for our business, like the auto insurance companies do (who doesn't love a Geico commercial?), instead of regulating it.

KatyRoseM

I also want competition and all that, mostly I want tort reform.  Also, it would be good to have doctors made aware of how many tests they are ordering, and how effective they are.

stephl3055

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Not seeing the big picture. Environmental impact. I think parental one-on-one time is severely diminished in large families, leading the older children to take on a greater role in caretaking, which is unfair. I think the younger children have a diminished quality of life because of it. It makes it hard to support the children financially, including educational expenses, which is important to me.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

This times a million.  DH is the 2nd oldest of 6.  He and his older sister raised the younger 4.  The younger children have performed more poorly in school than the older ones, and it got worse with the youngest two (they are twins).  What do you expect when an adult isn't teaching a child how to speak correctly, or read a book? 

The older children were responsible for discipling the younger ones as well and this has impacted their relationship with each other forever.  My DH and my SIL were the only ones that would punish the younger children when they did something wrong, and now the younger siblings resent them for what they did and how they were treated.  Their parents babied the younger children and they have enabled them to be moochers and cling.  No one wins in a situation like this. 

CLSchramm

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Actually, there are a ton of hospitals that are closing (St. Vincent's Hospital in NYC, which was the major trauma center in lower Manhattan, to name one), so I would have to disagree with you there. St. V's had a large population of uninsured patients that they wound up having to cover the costs for. Now, St. V's is gone, and all those people will be overloading other hospitals, causing a domino effect. The cost of providing treatment to uninsured patiens is one of the major reasons for the high cost of health care. Give these people access to primary care, and they won't need to use ERs as their primary doctor.
Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]

Hence why it's an unpopular opinion <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />

And actually, people who have health insurance tend to use the ER with more frequency than those that don't. There is a higher volume of uinsured cases in the ER, because there is a higher number of people without insurance, but they use it less often, because they are paying for it, than those that don't have to pay for it, or only pay a portion of it that their insurance doesn't cover. Not saying people shouldn't go to the ER if they're hurt, but there's not going to be less traffic there just because we give everyone insurance.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : This. And those pageant moms. Really people, your daugher is not fucking cinderella.
Posted by CLSchramm[/QUOTE]

That show toddlers and tiaras on TLC scares the crap out of me.  I mean I played dress up and with makeup when I was a little kid but my mother didn't put me on stage looking like that!! Have you seen where they have the kids crying....breaks my heart.

sarabellam

Super late to the party, but I dislike little dogs intensely, Chihuahuas especially. If my cat can kick your dog's ass, you're dog is a super-annoyance.

And, I hate pit bulls. There, I said it. And I question the sanity of any parent who owns one. Our only neighbors have one, and 90% of the time he's locked in their garage. A couple of times he's been out when I've been out with my dog on a leash, or when my daughters are outside playing. When he got out of their yard, ran at my 11 year-old, and jumped on her (leaving bruises on her chest) we were NOT happy campers. He is untrained, uncut, and I don't trust the bastard as far as I can throw him.

KatyRoseM

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular opinions? : Hence why it's an unpopular opinion And actually, pe<strong>ople who have health insurance tend to use the ER with more frequency than those that don't.</strong> There is a higher volume of uinsured cases in the ER, because there is a higher number of people without insurance, but they use it less often, because they are paying for it, than those that don't have to pay for it, or only pay a portion of it that their insurance doesn't cover. Not saying people shouldn't go to the ER if they're hurt, but there's not going to be less traffic there just because we give everyone insurance.
Posted by CLSchramm[/QUOTE]

<div>This is interesting, do you have a source for it?  </div>

ohwhynot

Steph, maybe your inlaws were crap parents, but not all large families are alike.  I can appreciate that my parents (8 children) and fi's parents (7 children) may have been short-sighted or over-confident in their abilities to love & provide for all of their many children, but they were not irresponsible or selfish.

We have problems in our family; so do many smaller families.  In fact, scratch the surface of just about any family, of any size, and you'll find some level of dysfunction.  But there is a lot of joy, a lot of life lessons, and a lot of valuable experience that comes from being in a large family.  There are advantages and disadvantages to virtually every family size. 

mica178

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[QUOTE]I also want competition and all that, mostly I want tort reform.  Also, it would be good to have doctors made aware of how many tests they are ordering, and how effective they are.
Posted by KatyRoseM[/QUOTE]

Actually, we are aware of how many tests we're ordering, and we know how effective they are.  For some reason, my patients are constantly trying to second guess me and would like a CT scan to prove what I could tell them already.  I spend an awful amount of time talking patients out of unnecessary procedures because I feel ethically obligated to monitor healthcare spending.  I know there are a lot of doctors who don't have that time and just order away because they're too busy, burnt out or afraid of being sued.

The problem is that most people in the US want the very "best" of everything, but they complain when someone expects them to pay for it.  Since when does "You get what you pay for?" not apply?

Here's my unpopular opinion: I personally like the two tiered system in the UK -- everyone gets basic preventive healthcare, and you can pay more out of pocket if you don't want to wait for procedures or want to see some super duper specialist. 

KatyRoseM

I like the two tiered system as well, so long as you can actually pay for more if you want to.  

mica178

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[QUOTE] And actually, people who have health insurance tend to use the ER with more frequency than those that don't. There is a higher volume of uinsured cases in the ER, because there is a higher number of people without insurance, but they use it less often, because they are paying for it, than those that don't have to pay for it, or only pay a portion of it that their insurance doesn't cover. Not saying people shouldn't go to the ER if they're hurt, but there's not going to be less traffic there just because we give everyone insurance.
Posted by CLSchramm[/QUOTE]

Actually, I'll point you to MA, where everyone does have insurance, but there are no more primary care doctors or clinics than there was before this reform.  No one can get an appointment, so they still use the ER.  Healthcare reform is more than just giving everyone insurance.