In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:28249f65-9ecb-43ad-9adc-1f6ab18313c3">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : I still love you, Pirata, but this makes me sad. Posted by missy68[/QUOTE] it doesn't make me sad. it makes me realize that some people are incapable of sympathy.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:945a3d75-7db2-4ea5-88ec-7def11a0022a">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : Don't forget the twenty odd thousand people who'd be running with you. Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE] I feel like a cruel bastard saying this but I would be seriously surprised if obesity rates in TO dont spike if he becomes mayor. The man just does not appear to promote any aspect of a healthy lifestyle. I cant help but say that now, especially after his marathon comments today.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:16a0fe21-ad97-4196-8d60-7e589087cdd2">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : virtually all responsibilities fall on the mother. women are encouraged to be SAHM, instead of going to work. here's one girl's view on it: <a href="http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant" rel="nofollow">http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant</a> Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:9acc054d-2403-4ec8-9e92-12572df7f568">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]Just because you don't have a child doesn't mean you can't have opinions on raising children and what you think is healthy for child development. Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:16a0fe21-ad97-4196-8d60-7e589087cdd2">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : virtually all responsibilities fall on the mother. women are encouraged to be SAHM, instead of going to work. here's one girl's view on it: <a href="http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant" rel="nofollow">http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant</a> Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE] Some of those statements and examples are BEYOND extreme. That's not a fair representation of it, if you're trying to explain it to Emily. To say that I'm AFRAID to put my (future) child in daycare? That's absurd. I just don't want to. I think there's total extremes, and I have no intention of bedsharing at night or homeschooling or turning my child vegan. There's varying levels of AP and being that biased against the entire practice is totally unfair.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
i simply asked if you had a child because like i said - my opinions matched yours until i had a child of my own. i was simply curious, not saying you couldn't have an opinion about it.
and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:d95904a2-595c-4968-9965-5d250ac5a99e">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]whoa, whoa and whoa. i simply asked if you had a child because like i said - my opinions matched yours until i had a child of my own. i was simply curious, not saying you couldn't have an opinion about it. and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you. Posted by xyrius[/QUOTE] I admitted that I judge attachment parenting. so yeah, I am. I am not above judging, I do it all the time. and I bet if you think about it, so do you.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:d95904a2-595c-4968-9965-5d250ac5a99e">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE] and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you. Posted by xyrius[/QUOTE] Isn't that part of being a parent though? Deciding what's right for you and your family, ignoring what everyone else said? I know I'm going to be judged for my parenting, but I'm prepared for it. Great thing about being a parent, everyone gets to make their own decisions.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:c228561f-2bc6-45de-ac8d-8fc36d07df0e">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : I feel like a cruel bastard saying this but I would be seriously surprised if obesity rates in TO dont spike if he becomes mayor. The man just does not appear to promote any aspect of a healthy lifestyle. I cant help but say that now, especially after his marathon comments today. Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree 100%. And I felt bad for thinking it, but I was all "how can someone who looks like him even have an opinion on marathons. He's clearly never been within a kilometre of one in his entire life."
and the examples I gave were anecdotal, and I shared them because I find them beyond belief. but rest assured, I judge the less extreme attachment parents also. I judge the entire concept, actually. I think it lends itself to spoiled, entitled brats. sorry.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:606d50c5-f278-43c5-9bb6-41a34cbb1df8">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]and the examples I gave were anecdotal, and I shared them because I find them beyond belief. but rest assured, I judge the less extreme attachment parents also. I judge the entire concept, actually. I think it lends itself to spoiled, entitled brats. sorry. Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE] ANECDOTES, LALA, ANECDOTES. Didn't you get on to someone about using them one time? ;)
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
LVB, don't worry, I don't think that's what it's all about I'd heard the basic principles before and just didn't really see how those = anti-feminism. Frankly, I think some of the points are a stretch and some are just untrue (some daycares accept babies who use cloth diapers), but I found it interesting to see how the poster made her case.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:57b200c3-5bce-49a1-885b-2a2b39b2dc2c">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : ANECDOTES, LALA, ANECDOTES. Didn't you get on to someone about using them one time? ;) Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE] oh yeah. I said using anecdotes (women using abortions for birth control) shouldn't be your basis for opinion, nor should it dictate the law. I used anecdotes because they're interesting. I based my opinions off the entire concept. and I don't think AP should be illegal.
I'm not at all a crunchy hippie and am very much in favor of discipline, but some things about attachment parenting I can totally imagine myself doing. Like xyrius mentioned, if it's 3am and baby's hungry and I can both feed my kid and also get some extra sleep by having him/her stay in my bed, I'm pretty sure that's going to end up happening at least a time or two more out of self-preservation than anything else.
here are some parts of attachment parenting that are less extreme:
co-sleeping carrying baby in a sling extended breastfeeding (past 6 months) attending to the baby when he/she cries (opposite of cry it out) feed on demand
and there's varying levels of the above. it's not black and white and it's not all extreme.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:3051d0ef-6479-4c95-af6d-c92598663429">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]LVB, don't worry, I don't think that's what it's all about :) I'd heard the basic principles before and just didn't really see how those = anti-feminism. Frankly, I think some of the points are a stretch and some are just untrue (some daycares accept babies who use cloth diapers), but I found it interesting to see how the poster made her case. Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]
I disagree, but as I said, it's just one of the problems I have with AP. my main problem is I find it to be crazycakes.
my mom raised me attachment parenting style (more on the extreme end, she co-slept with me until i was 3) - and i would consider myself independent (moved out at 17), unspoiled, and generally turned out alright.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:da312784-3360-4b62-b1dc-e4bce0694b7b">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]Extended breastfeeding really creeps me out. Posted by salt78[/QUOTE] When do you think it should stop? The guideline says 6-9 months. So you're def going to stop at their 9 month birthday, at the latest? (assuming you're going to bf of course).
I agree that once they can ask for it clearly, it's probably over. Although I don't think I'd have a problem continuing to pump and bottle feed breast milk.
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In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:f5e227b1-b07b-4b77-bffa-169f9510746f">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]I don't know why so many people give a crap about how someone ELSE raises THEIR kid. Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]
<div>Because we all have to live with that kid when it grows up and becomes an adult. </div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:f5e227b1-b07b-4b77-bffa-169f9510746f">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]I don't know why so many people give a crap about how someone ELSE raises THEIR kid. Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE] do you have an opinion on domestic discipline? it's THEIR marriage. when someone hears about something that they find insane, it's normal to have an opinion.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:2ccbbe22-c92c-43fd-b7e9-99ab8b4c7b12">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]I have a huge problem with not being "allowed" to tell your child "no." that, to me, is crap. Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE] No one's holding a gun to their head telling them they CAN'T. It's just a belief. Honestly, one I don't agree with. Although I do believe in redirection (getting their attention elsewhere to distract from the bad behavior.
"In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-9?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:74b45cf6-3ed2-41af-8a54-efa9e4ef124cPost:c51be5d3-339d-4031-96d1-d2c20bce61d5">Re: unpopular opinions</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : No one's holding a gun to their head telling them they CAN'T. It's just a belief. Honestly, one I don't agree with. Although I do believe in redirection (getting their attention elsewhere to distract from the bad behavior. Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE] it's one of the fundamental beliefs of AP. come on now.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : I still love you, Pirata, but this makes me sad.
Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]
it doesn't make me sad. it makes me realize that some people are incapable of sympathy.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : Don't forget the twenty odd thousand people who'd be running with you.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]
I feel like a cruel bastard saying this but I would be seriously surprised if obesity rates in TO dont spike if he becomes mayor. The man just does not appear to promote any aspect of a healthy lifestyle. I cant help but say that now, especially after his marathon comments today.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : virtually all responsibilities fall on the mother. women are encouraged to be SAHM, instead of going to work. here's one girl's view on it: <a href="http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant" rel="nofollow">http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant</a>
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
Interesting, thanks.
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[QUOTE]Just because you don't have a child doesn't mean you can't have opinions on raising children and what you think is healthy for child development.
Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
<div>Yeah. This.</div>
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : virtually all responsibilities fall on the mother. women are encouraged to be SAHM, instead of going to work. here's one girl's view on it: <a href="http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant" rel="nofollow">http://www.allgirlarmy.org/blog/brooke/2006/08/attachment_parenting_a_new_way_of_keeping_women_barefoot_and_pregnant</a>
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
Some of those statements and examples are BEYOND extreme. That's not a fair representation of it, if you're trying to explain it to Emily. To say that I'm AFRAID to put my (future) child in daycare? That's absurd. I just don't want to. I think there's total extremes, and I have no intention of bedsharing at night or homeschooling or turning my child vegan. There's varying levels of AP and being that biased against the entire practice is totally unfair.
i simply asked if you had a child because like i said - my opinions matched yours until i had a child of my own. i was simply curious, not saying you couldn't have an opinion about it.
and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you.
[QUOTE]whoa, whoa and whoa. i simply asked if you had a child because like i said - my opinions matched yours until i had a child of my own. i was simply curious, not saying you couldn't have an opinion about it. and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you.
Posted by xyrius[/QUOTE]
I admitted that I judge attachment parenting. so yeah, I am. I am not above judging, I do it all the time. and I bet if you think about it, so do you.
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[QUOTE]
and i'm not one of the judgemental ones, but i feel like i'm being judged pretty hard here by you.
Posted by xyrius[/QUOTE]
Isn't that part of being a parent though? Deciding what's right for you and your family, ignoring what everyone else said? I know I'm going to be judged for my parenting, but I'm prepared for it. Great thing about being a parent, everyone gets to make their own decisions.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : I feel like a cruel bastard saying this but I would be seriously surprised if obesity rates in TO dont spike if he becomes mayor. The man just does not appear to promote any aspect of a healthy lifestyle. I cant help but say that now, especially after his marathon comments today.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]
Oh I agree 100%. And I felt bad for thinking it, but I was all "how can someone who looks like him even have an opinion on marathons. He's clearly never been within a kilometre of one in his entire life."
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[QUOTE]and the examples I gave were anecdotal, and I shared them because I find them beyond belief. but rest assured, I judge the less extreme attachment parents also. I judge the entire concept, actually. I think it lends itself to spoiled, entitled brats. sorry.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
ANECDOTES, LALA, ANECDOTES. Didn't you get on to someone about using them one time? ;)
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I don't know the first thing about attachment parenting, but Wikipedia makes it sound like a cult.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : ANECDOTES, LALA, ANECDOTES. Didn't you get on to someone about using them one time? ;)
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
oh yeah. I said using anecdotes (women using abortions for birth control) shouldn't be your basis for opinion, nor should it dictate the law.
I used anecdotes because they're interesting. I based my opinions off the entire concept. and I don't think AP should be illegal.
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co-sleeping
carrying baby in a sling
extended breastfeeding (past 6 months)
attending to the baby when he/she cries (opposite of cry it out)
feed on demand
and there's varying levels of the above. it's not black and white and it's not all extreme.
[QUOTE]LVB, don't worry, I don't think that's what it's all about :) I'd heard the basic principles before and just didn't really see how those = anti-feminism. Frankly, I think some of the points are a stretch and some are just untrue (some daycares accept babies who use cloth diapers), but I found it interesting to see how the poster made her case.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]
I disagree, but as I said, it's just one of the problems I have with AP. my main problem is I find it to be crazycakes.
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she didn't scar me for life.
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[QUOTE]Extended breastfeeding really creeps me out.
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]
When do you think it should stop? The guideline says 6-9 months. So you're def going to stop at their 9 month birthday, at the latest? (assuming you're going to bf of course).
I agree that once they can ask for it clearly, it's probably over. Although I don't think I'd have a problem continuing to pump and bottle feed breast milk.
[QUOTE]I don't know why so many people give a crap about how someone ELSE raises THEIR kid.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]
<div>Because we all have to live with that kid when it grows up and becomes an adult. </div>
[QUOTE]I don't know why so many people give a crap about how someone ELSE raises THEIR kid.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]
do you have an opinion on domestic discipline? it's THEIR marriage.
when someone hears about something that they find insane, it's normal to have an opinion.
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[QUOTE]I have a huge problem with not being "allowed" to tell your child "no." that, to me, is crap.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
No one's holding a gun to their head telling them they CAN'T. It's just a belief. Honestly, one I don't agree with. Although I do believe in redirection (getting their attention elsewhere to distract from the bad behavior.
when my baby was hungry, i fed her. when she cried, i picked her up. not because anyone told me to, but because that's what i wanted to do.
i disagree with the anti-feminism argument, because i felt pretty empowered to raise her how i wanted to and my FI supported me 100%.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions : No one's holding a gun to their head telling them they CAN'T. It's just a belief. Honestly, one I don't agree with. Although I do believe in redirection (getting their attention elsewhere to distract from the bad behavior.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
it's one of the fundamental beliefs of AP. come on now.
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