Unpopular Opinions

Ghoti · November 2010

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[QUOTE]Let's chat. I don't think most murderers can be rehabilitated. And I'd rather see them rot in jail then put to death. If we choose to kill someone, how are we any better than the murderer? I think having to live with their actions and thoughts every day is a worse punishment than the release of death. Their cells should be wallpapered with pictures of their victims. Your turn.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

Yah, I'm on the opposite side of this fence. I don't like paying for someone to have housing, clean clothes, food, medical etc. Many people who confess to murder are not in the same mind set as "normal" people, living with their actions will not be a punishment. Confessions and/or dna proof are good enough for me for a quick walk outside and a couple of bullets.

ohwhynot · November 2010

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[QUOTE]I just can't see disliking someone beacuse they have a differing opinion than you. But that's just me I guess.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Really? Because I think a person is their opinions, and actions too, of course. On what other basis do you choose to like or dislike a person?

mgietler76 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Really, you refuse to speak to them?
Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

Yes really. If I have a person on the phone I transfer them to someone else. And if it's in person I apologize that I can't understand them and simply walk away.

FutureMrsFezz · November 2010

I love pitbulls. I would never say that my dog would never hurt anyone, because really, it's an animal how do I know what he's thinking. But I do believe it's in the raising. Most of them are misguided and it makes me sad. How can you resist this face?

Edited for spelling and not fully finishing sentences. Gah

Beachy730 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I don't consider vehicular manslaughter murder. It probably wasn't intentional, so they're not out on the streets looking to run people down. If it was caused by drunk driving though... well, that's a whole other can of worms.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

Thats what I thought you meant, I was just checking. Some people say murderers to encompass anyone who's ever killed someone, regardless of how.

kikibaby · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Unpopular Opinions : Yah, I'm on the opposite side of this fence. I don't like paying for someone to have housing, clean clothes, food, medical etc. Many people who confess to murder are not in the same mind set as "normal" people, living with their actions will not be a punishment. Confessions and/or dna proof are good enough for me for a quick walk outside and a couple of bullets.
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

It's cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to kill them.

As far as the language thing- people who speak English are actually the biggest A-holes about language when I've visited other countries. We generally expect everyone to speak English. I have seen people all over the world walk up to cashiers, waiters, whatever, and start speaking English. And the thing is... a lot of people in Europe DO speak English. Americans are the ones who don't think they need to know any other languages.

emilyinchile · November 2010

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[QUOTE]I refuse to speak to people who cannot fluently speak English but they live here anyways. I'm not about to move to Germany with my knowledge from HS language class.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

LVB, yes. This one opinion makes me not like someone.

I'm really glad that Chileans haven't been that horrible to my friends and me when we came here with our less-than-perfect-but-trying-to-learn Spanish. How the hell do you expect people to learn English when the best way of learning a language, and you refuse to immerse them?

ETA: Also, if my employee started transferring her calls just because she didn't feel like talking to someone, I would fire her. That's called not doing your job assuming that talking to clients is part of your job.

cengle · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Unpopular Opinions : Yah, I'm on the opposite side of this fence. I don't like paying for someone to have housing, clean clothes, food, medical etc. Many people who confess to murder are not in the same mind set as "normal" people, living with their actions will not be a punishment. Confessions and/or dna proof are good enough for me for a quick walk outside and a couple of bullets.
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

That's not how the system works though. With the way our appeals process works, executing someone is actually more expensive to taxpayers than keeping them imprisoned for life, in many, if not most, cases.

Stackeye210 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Yes really. If I have a person on the phone I transfer them to someone else. And if it's in person I apologize that I can't understand them and simply walk away.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

Wow.

[Deleted User] · November 2010

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[QUOTE]Let's chat. I don't think most murderers can be rehabilitated. And I'd rather see them rot in jail then put to death. If we choose to kill someone, how are we any better than the murderer? I think having to live with their actions and thoughts every day is a worse punishment than the release of death. Their cells should be wallpapered with pictures of their victims. Your turn.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

I feel this way about pedophiles and rapists. And even on the off-chance that they could be fully rehabilitated and never did it again after being released, I still don't want them walking around a free man/woman. It sickens me that people who do such crimes are released and we are expected to be okay with that because "they served their time."

However, I will admit that my opinion is completely biased due to personal experiences and I think of this issue that way, personally, rather than looking at actual statistics of rehabilitation.

Beachy730 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Yes really. If I have a person on the phone I transfer them to someone else. And if it's in person I apologize that I can't understand them and simply walk away.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

Wow, thats seriously one of the rudest things I've heard in a while. I hope you never go visit a foreign country and have to ask someone for help with directions. Way to be a discriminating American.

zippityb · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Unpopular Opinions : Yah, I'm on the opposite side of this fence. I don't like paying for someone to have housing, clean clothes, food, medical etc. Many people who confess to murder are not in the same mind set as "normal" people, living with their actions will not be a punishment. Confessions and/or dna proof are good enough for me for a quick walk outside and a couple of bullets.
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

From watching a bunch of shows and documentaries about life in prison, prison sucks. It's by no means a resort. I will gladly pay tax dollars to keep those people off of the streets.

louisvillebride21 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Really? Because I think a person is their opinions, and actions too, of course. On what other basis do you choose to like or dislike a person?
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

I said, I can't see disliking them because of one differing opinion. If their entire life outlook is different than mine, sure. But jsut disagreeing on a couple things? Yeah, I'm probably going to still like them, or not think any less of them.

laurenclaire1386 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : It's cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to kill them. As far as the language thing- people who speak English are actually the biggest A-holes about language when I've visited other countries. We generally expect everyone to speak English. I have seen people all over the world walk up to cashiers, waiters, whatever, and start speaking English. And the thing is... a lot of people in Europe DO speak English. <strong> Americans are the ones who don't think they need to know any other languages.</strong>
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. Although I don't know from personal experience. I've only ever been to Mexico, and although I think some people appreciated my effort, most of them would just speak English to me rather than have me butcher Spanish.

Rosie109 · November 2010

How do people feel about tipping waitresses/waiters here? When did 20% become the given/norm and expected?

Like that facebook group, if you don't tip 20% don't eat out?

akhensley81 · November 2010

I think people convicted of murder (the pre-medidated kind) should be shot on site. The moment the conviction comes down. It drives me nuts to think that those people are going to get room & board on my dime for the rest of their lives.

cengle · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : From watching a bunch of shows and documentaries about life in prison, prison sucks. It's by no means a resort. I will gladly pay tax dollars to keep those people off of the streets.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]

Seriously. I think our prison systems need some major overhaul, but I don't want to get started on this. I could go on for days.

pumpkinpumpkin · November 2010

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[QUOTE]root beer sucks.
Posted by mandysmear[/QUOTE]

I feel the same way about Indian Food.

hadiyahben · November 2010

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[QUOTE]I just can't see disliking someone beacuse they have a differing opinion than you. But that's just me I guess.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Pedophiles are of the opinion that sex with children is ok. I disagree with that opinion and definitely dislike pedophiles because of that difference in opinion.

mgietler76 · November 2010

I simply mean that if you choose to live in a country than you should learn the language of said county. I would never move somewhere else and expect them to understand English simply because it's what I speak.

FutureMrsTR · November 2010

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[QUOTE]How do people feel about tipping waitresses/waiters here? When did 20% become the given/norm and expected? Like that facebook group, if you don't tip 20% don't eat out?
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

I generally tip 20% because a) I've been there and b) it's easier to figure out math-wise. I may round down if the person wasn't particularly pleasant, but not if the service was slow because I know the kitchen can often be at fault for that and I don't want to punish the waiter.

emilyinchile · November 2010

I hate peanut butter.

Ghoti · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : <strong>It's cheaper to keep someone in prison for life than to kill them. </strong> As far as the language thing- people who speak English are actually the biggest A-holes about language when I've visited other countries. We generally expect everyone to speak English. I have seen people all over the world walk up to cashiers, waiters, whatever, and start speaking English. And the thing is... a lot of people in Europe DO speak English. Americans are the ones who don't think they need to know any other languages.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

Supposedly, than to lethal injection kill them. I would do away with lethal injection, a bullet costs what, 25 cents? Seriously.

laurenclaire1386 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]How do people feel about tipping waitresses/waiters here? When did 20% become the given/norm and expected? Like that facebook group, if you don't tip 20% don't eat out?
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]
I don't know when it became the norm, but it was the norm 5 years ago when I was waiting tables. I feel like if a server does his very best to be accomodating, doesn't let me know how much he hates his job, and generally has a good attitude, I can forgive a lot. Waiting tables isn't easy, and I don't know what the minimum wage laws are for servers in every other state, but in LA, they get paid $2.13/hr. So yeah, they're relying on that tip money and I tip 20% unless something is seriously amiss.

SnShne322 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]How do people feel about tipping waitresses/waiters here? When did 20% become the given/norm and expected? Like that facebook group, if you don't tip 20% don't eat out?
Posted by Rosie109[/QUOTE]

I'm a 20% minimum person. It's usually more like 25. I've only had exceptionally bad service a couple of times, but I think I still gave the 20%.

ohwhynot · November 2010

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[QUOTE]I simply mean that if you choose to live in a country than you should learn the language of said county. I would never move somewhere else and expect them to understand English simply because it's what I speak.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

So refugees are just shiit out of luck with you? You can't take the time to give directions to a woman who fled persecution because she didn't learn English before fleeing here?

Rosie109 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I generally tip 20% because a) I've been there and b) it's easier to figure out math-wise. I may round down if the person wasn't particularly pleasant, but not if the service was slow because I know the kitchen can often be at fault for that and I don't want to punish the waiter.
Posted by FutureMrsTR[/QUOTE]

<div>We always tip on the high side because I know its not fun waiting on people.. I am just puzzled when the 20% became expected. </div>

opalsky007 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Yes really. If I have a person on the phone I transfer them to someone else. And if it's in person I apologize that I can't understand them and simply walk away.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

<div>If you don't enjoy speaking with people who aren't fluent, fine. I think you're incredibly rude, but fine. But to transfer it to someone else and make it their problem, because you don't feel like 'handling' it? </div><div>
</div><div>Heaven help you if you ever need assistance from a person who isn't fluent. I would suggest not ever dialing a 1-800 number. Good luck.</div>

Beachy730 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]I simply mean that if you choose to live in a country than you should learn the language of said county. I would never move somewhere else and expect them to understand English simply because it's what I speak.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

Well you said if you talk to them in person you walk away from them, or transfer a call. Do you ask everyone if they live here or are visiting first? Do you ask how long they've lived here? Honestly I don't think you can backtrack into making this sound any better.

Ghoti · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : That's not how the system works though. With the way our appeals process works, executing someone is actually more expensive to taxpayers than keeping them imprisoned for life, in many, if not most, cases.
Posted by cengle[/QUOTE]

I know. This is in my little fairytale world where the economy doesn't suck and all systems work like a well oiled machine.

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