Have we talked about this?

KocurFineArt · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : I don't think he does either. I see it as a cautionary tale as well, but I'm also a 33 year old woman who has been through an abusive relationship. If I were a 15 year old girl with a hard on for all things Eminem (or Rhiana), I would probably have a different perspective on it. Does that make sense?
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

<div>Yes. Yes it does.</div>

npasquale16 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]FWIW, I was in a 6 year relationship that was emotionally volatile, not physically. I can still relate to the mindset from when I was there. Someone all it takes is someone to identify with in order to stop the mindfuuck.
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

I absolutely can relate to this. I was in the same situation with my ex---clearly unhealthy, but it took me four and a half years to get out of that twisted game. When you can see what you're going through mirrored in someone else's situation, it is a wake-up.

That being said, I can name at least 25 teenage girls that would think this situation is "glamourous" because of the portrayal in the video. This is why education about ALL kinds of abuse is so important.

ricksang · August 2010

Totally not related but Rihana is one of the hottest women alive IMO.

Blueyed228 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]I love the melody, the passion (of the vocalists), the strength of emotion portrayed by Megan Fox and ___(?), and the play between Eminem and Rhianna's vocal styles. But, I'm going to bed tonight hoping that young ladies who fall in love with this song on the radio and finally see the video get shocked into understanding what a doomed and unhealthy relationship looks and feels like. Passion is wonderful, but that kind of love/hate isn't passion... it's sickness. I remember adoring a song in HS because it just 'got' what my relationship was with this guy. Later, I realized that the song was about a stalker. Nice.<strong><u> Blue- I'm so glad you got out.
</u></strong>Posted by PetraStonegirl[/QUOTE]

Thanks. Me too.

It took 4 years, a few black eyes, a few chunks of hair ripped out, a few broken ribs, and a $2000 dorm damage charge to wake me up, but at least i woke up.

Looking back, its amazing what you will do for love sometimes. But I look at things as learning experiences. It happened, it ended, I grew up and took with me the knowledge that I would never put up with that shiit again. I dont let it bother me anymore.

npasquale16 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Totally not related but Rihana is one of the hottest women alive IMO.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]
Ditto

NuggetBrain · August 2010

It sounds cheesy and corny as hell, but I can't help thinking that maybe some kind of quick statistic after the video, like about how many women are killed by their husbands/boyfriends/domestic partners each year, or the annual cost of domestic abuse, or something to really hit home with the teens (who Em knows damn well are the main listeners of his music) that he IS NOT condoning it, and it is not something to take pride in being involved with.

Blueyed228 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]It sounds cheesy and corny as hell, but I can't help thinking that maybe some kind of quick statistic after the video, like about how many women are killed by their husbands/boyfriends/domestic partners each year, or the annual cost of domestic abuse, or something to really hit home with the teens (who Em knows damn well are the main listeners of his music) that he IS NOT condoning it, and it is not something to take pride in being involved with.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

I think that is a fantastic idea.

andy71781 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]It sounds cheesy and corny as hell, but I can't help thinking that maybe some kind of quick statistic after the video, like about how many women are killed by their husbands/boyfriends/domestic partners each year, or the annual cost of domestic abuse, or something to really hit home with the teens (who Em knows damn well are the main listeners of his music) that he IS NOT condoning it, and it is not something to take pride in being involved with.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]
I think that's a really good idea.
FWIW I think (maaaybe) that Eminen's reference to tying her to the bed and setting the house on fire might have some reference to the movie "The Burning Bed" which is actually a non-fiction movie about domestic violence. (wikipedia reference is here = <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burning_Bed" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Burning_Bed</a>)

I probably shouldn't give him that much credit though....

[Deleted User] · August 2010

I think that's a great idea, Nugget.

Nebb · August 2010

It makes me sad that so many of you have actually been in abusive relationships

ricksang · August 2010

So was that from a movie? I noticed Meagan Fox was in it, blech.

ricksang · August 2010

Oh The Burning Bed was a good movie. I have thought that too Andy!

[Deleted User] · August 2010

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[QUOTE]It makes me sad that so many of you have actually been in abusive relationships :(
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

Me too.

SarahPLiz · August 2010

I wouldn't be surprised, Andy. He pulls references from all kinds of places.

SarahPLiz · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : Me too.
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

<div>All it takes is one asshole and a momentary doubt of your own self worth. </div>

[Deleted User] · August 2010

Slightly random and flameworthy, but I also think Eminem is a poetic genius.

[Deleted User] · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : All it takes is one asshole and a momentary doubt of your own self worth.
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

Can I confess that I still FB stalk my abusive ex and take pleasure in knowing that his life is shiit?

ricksang · August 2010

He is a poetic genius and most likely the only good white rapper. EVER.

Nebb · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Slightly random and flameworthy, but I also think Eminem is a poetic genius.
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]
Mmm hmm, I think he is brilliant.

SarahPLiz · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Slightly random and flameworthy, but I also think Eminem is a poetic genius.
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

<div>I totally agree. No flames from me. I'm sure my love for Em is no secret here, though. That's one of the reasons I love him. His lyrics are so well put together, and they are actually about something.. something real and passionate. All the time. </div>

[Deleted User] · August 2010

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[QUOTE]He is a poetic genius and most likely the only good white rapper. EVER.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

Bubba Sparks would pop a cap in your ass for saying that.

Blueyed228 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]It makes me sad that so many of you have actually been in abusive relationships :(
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

I cant believe I actually just told you guys all that, lol.

FI doesnt even know about that. I guess Im feeling very share-y tonight.

PetraStonegirl · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : Thanks. Me too. It took 4 years, a few black eyes, a few chunks of hair ripped out, a few broken ribs, and a $2000 dorm damage charge to wake me up, but at least i woke up. Looking back, its amazing what you will do for love sometimes. <strong>But I look at things as learning experiences. It happened, it ended, I grew up and took with me the knowledge that I would never put up with that shiit again. I dont let it bother me anymore.</strong>
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

<div>I usually like your posts. I find you funny. self-depreciating, and wicked smart. But, this is the very best thing I've heard (read) you say. I wish more women would find this in themselves. Just for that, here's a little gift I think of every time I see your sig line.</div><div>
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npasquale16 · August 2010

I agree with Em being a lyrical genius. What makes me sad is that said genius and his references are often lost on many of his fans.

KocurFineArt · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : Can I confess that I still FB stalk my abusive ex and take pleasure in knowing that his life is shiit?
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

<div>Ditto. And all his friends have started friending me, so he hid himself from me. HE HID HIMSELF FROM ME! After I avoided him, his town, his hangouts, etc. for 5 years. HE HID FROM ME. Irony at its best.</div>

[Deleted User] · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : I totally agree. No flames from me. I'm sure my love for Em is no secret here, though. That's one of the reasons I love him. His lyrics are so well put together, and they are actually about something.. something real and passionate. All the time.
Posted by SarahPLiz[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I can't imagine being smart enough to do what he does with his lyrics. He's a genius in the same way that I think Mitch Hedberg was a truly brilliant comedian. I just think it takes a really talented brain to come up with that stuff.

ms_teach · August 2010

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[QUOTE]It makes me sad that so many of you have actually been in abusive relationships :(
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

I think it speaks to the prevalence, and to some extent the lack of education. My mom encouraged me to stay with the guy because he was so "charming" and to this day he's her favorite ex of mine. She likes him way more than FI. Sometimes people on the outside don't get how ugly it is behind closed doors.

NuggetBrain · August 2010

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[QUOTE]He is a poetic genius and most likely the only good white rapper. EVER.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't go THAT far. I mean, seriously, Marky Mark anybody? Snow? KFed?!

SarahPLiz · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : Can I confess that I still FB stalk my abusive ex and take pleasure in knowing that his life is shiit?
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

<div>I think that is totally fine. I'm taking my ex's daughter school shopping this week. He's getting better at not being an asshole, and he's actually a pretty good dad, but he's still emotionally fucked most of the time and he has very few marketable skills. He was unemployed for over a year so they were struggling more than usual. While I'm glad he's getting his comeuppances, I can't stand to see her suffer for his mistakes. </div>

andy71781 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Have we talked about this? : Can I confess that I still FB stalk my abusive ex and take pleasure in knowing that his life is shiit?
Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]
TWO of my exs got really fat. What can be better?

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