Unpopular Opinions

emilyinchile · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:6cc3037b-8ef7-423d-81ce-5e71c9ed6f50">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I totally agree that businesses should offer options, particularly international businesses. However, my bank for example, is a small bank with branches only in my area. I don't necessarily think its unreasonable for me to not have to press 1 for English when calling them.
Posted by kjhowd[/QUOTE]

It it unrealistic to think that they might have a significant percentage of customers who speak other languages? I see you're in the Boston area, but I don't know what the make-up of places where your bank has branches is like. I'm not fighting with you on this one - although I obviously do not mind pressing 1 - just imagining that if your bank has done it, they probably find it helps customers. If it didn't, and they were just wasting money on having Spanish-speaking operators standing by at all times, I can't imagine they would continue spending money on it.

Any, do you mean basic grammar like than vs. then?

Anysunrise · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I tried and couldn't make it work, sorry.
Posted by kjhowd[/QUOTE]

Add width="200" at the end of your pic code, inside the /> I think.

Ghoti · November 2010

All this Cajun talk makes me think of Princess and the Frog "Born and bred in the bayou!"

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I know Japan teaches it up through high school at least, as well. For serious.
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

They do, but that's because they need to be able to know a certain amount for college entrance exams. However, the classes aren't that good and basically teach for the test, so a lot of them end up speaking English not well at all, and hating the subject. They're working on remedying it though.

Anysunrise · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:1f3ee2ba-0632-4e09-a55f-8d20559f2b41">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]All this Cajun talk makes me think of Princess and the Frog "Born and bred in the bayou!"
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

It always makes me think of The Waterboy, and the weird dude in the overalls.

emilyinchile · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:6f401f7c-9d85-46b0-950a-c2b6f9e9c0cb">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : OK because this is OBVIOUSLY what I meant. If I cannot understand a person than how can I possibly help them if I don't know what the hell they are saying?
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

Her point about what you do when faced with native English speakers who have speaking problems stands. If you "just can't understand" someone who's had a stroke, do you transfer them to someone who's fluent in stroke-ese or do you make an effort because you realize it would be really rude to say "I'm sorry, I don't understand you because you had a stroke"?

And I really do think it's convenient that although your original opinion referred to people who aren't fluent, as soon as people brought up what an idiotic thing that was to say, now it's "well I just meant people who speak no English at all so that I really don't understand anything they say, and it's not my fault."

Anysunrise · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : They do, but that's because they need to be able to know a certain amount for college entrance exams. However, the classes aren't that good and basically teach for the test, so a lot of them end up speaking English not well at all, and hating the subject. They're working on remedying it though.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Ah, I see. I'll admit, my knowledge of Japanese schooling is limited to what I watch in anime. *cough*

Beachy730 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : That's an excellent point. Most THIS IS 'MURICA SPEAK ENGLISH GODDAMMIT people couldn't tell me what the difference in a verb and noun is.
Posted by laurenclaire1386[/QUOTE]

Exactly. I've heard that English is one of the most difficult languages to learn and speak fluently because of the slang and ebonics and what not. Just look at how many people on these boards say things wrong or have poor spelling and grammar on a daily basis. How can you ever expect someone to come here and speak fluent english. Someone from Italy could have studied English their whole lives, and come to America and have abosoutely no idea what someone meant when they said, "Whaddya up to?" I know I say that all the time. They would probably be looking at the sky in seach of something.

Ghoti · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:90d3679d-8b5d-4679-b7b1-47bceec3f0f2">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Your dad doesn't speak for everyone in corrections. It's fine that you and he share an opinion, but simply because he works in corrections doesn't mean that his view of things trumps others'. I worked in prison litigation for several years and spent a lot of time with prisoners, guards, and corrections officials and I can safely say that many of them do NOT feel the same way as your dad.
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

That's fine :) It's just sharing of opinions, I'm not trying to sway anyone either way. You need to also realize the treatment varies by state, so I can't really tell you how they treat anyone everywhere else in the country
My next UO is that my FMIL is going to make me late to my appt and I should've just gone without her :/

zippityb · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Ah, I see. I'll admit, my knowledge of Japanese schooling is limited to what I watch in anime. *cough*
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

I have a friend who was in the JET program, and she had such a great experience that I wish I had done it too.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Ah, I see. I'll admit, my knowledge of Japanese schooling is limited to what I watch in anime. *cough*
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

It's cool, I only learned that from a story on NPR! That's where I get half my anecdotal knowledge, I swear.

Ghoti · November 2010

Speaking of the difficulties in the English language, who knows how to pronounce my screenname without googling?

mgietler76 · November 2010

I'm obviously having a hard time explaining myself so I think I will state what I am trying to say and leave it at that:

1. If you live in a country you should speak the language of that country.

2. Having an accent and not speaking English are two completely different things. As is having a mental disability that effects your speaking.

3. If I cannot understand someone than I will do my best to get them to someone who can, but I will not spend 20 minutes trying to decipher "I want the blue one" and will explain that I cannot understand them.

4. I do not expect people to know English if I was visiting Germany or Mexico, and as such I would never travel to any country without having a grasp on the language.

5. I would never turn away from someone in need based solely on the fact that don't speak English

6. Calm down on the than/then thing it's called a mistake and you obviously were able to understand what I was saying.

I am, probably forgetting something but I don't really think it matters to anyone anyways.

tortis · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:91678b4a-5d1d-44c9-ba0a-7ddf59155e91">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : It it unrealistic to think that they might have a significant percentage of customers who speak other languages? I see you're in the Boston area, but I don't know what the make-up of places where your bank has branches is like. I'm not fighting with you on this one - although I obviously do not mind pressing 1 - just imagining that if your bank has done it, they probably find it helps customers. If it didn't, and they were just wasting money on having Spanish-speaking operators standing by at all times, I can't imagine they would continue spending money on it. Any, do you mean basic grammar like than vs. then?
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

Emily!! You're (not your) in Chile and YOU know the difference? I'm sorry, but this clearly makes you a troll. Everyone knows that Americans are smarter than everyone and English is the superior language. Once you leave America I heard your intelligence plummets. You have clearly stolen some poor American's knowledge of the English language. I think it was mgetwhatevers.

Wrkn925 · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:c61c5ec9-66fc-4413-8a64-714a62e91185">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]Speaking of the difficulties in the English language, who knows how to pronounce my screenname without googling?
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

Like the show, Growing up Ghoti or whatever?

Anysunrise · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:a8cbfd1c-a3b9-4b21-9af1-da23a0dc5c02">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I have a friend who was in the JET program, and she had such a great experience that I wish I had done it too.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]

I'd love to do that. One of my not-so-realistic goals is to learn Japanese, because I think it's an absolutely beautiful language.

Y I Oughta · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:0c4e0a66-1d13-4990-81a0-6682ca326950">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : They do, but that's because they need to be able to know a certain amount for college entrance exams. However, the classes aren't that good and basically teach for the test, so a lot of them end up speaking English not well at all, and hating the subject. They're working on remedying it though.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

I know that in Korea they teach it form Kindergarten through high school. FBIL is there right now teaching English to kids of all ages. He said that they start with the basics and work through everything.

Ghoti · November 2010

If you don't care, why answer? It's relative, it proves the difficulty of the english language. I've gotta go- highlight for answer It's pronounced Fish

Wrkn925 · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:4851b641-768d-498b-aabd-956f079496b9">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]I still stand by my dislike of Betty White.
Posted by Birdie1483[/QUOTE]

:-(
I heart Betty. I joined the group that pestered her to guest star on SNL.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:1b4fb63e-f9c3-408a-b209-308e56395a14">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I know that in Korea they teach it form Kindergarten through high school. FBIL is there right now teaching English to kids of all ages. He said that they start with the basics and work through everything.
Posted by Y I Oughta[/QUOTE]

My coworker wants his son to go do an English teaching program in Korea. Coworker is half-Korean and his mother has hosted some Korean exchange students in the US and knows a family who said he could stay with them. I also have a friend who's there now teaching English, and I know people who have done the same in China and Thailand. It seems like an awesome experience.

laladypoet · November 2010

and, if you think murderers can't be rehabilitated, then why do you think they'd feel remorse for what they've done?

I also think the prison system is fuucked. there should be two systems--one for the pot dealers and car thiefs and whatnot, and another for violent offenders. and the violent offenders prison should not have any of the niceties they have now.

mgietler76 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Youre blatantly contradicting things youve said earlier.
Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

Please correct me

ETA: Never mind I give up

emilyinchile · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Emily!! You're (not your) in Chile and YOU know the difference? I'm sorry, but this clearly makes you a troll. Everyone knows that Americans are smarter than everyone and English is the superior language. <strong>Once you leave America I heard your intelligence plummets.</strong> You have clearly stolen some poor American's knowledge of the English language. I think it was mgetwhatevers.
Posted by tortis[/QUOTE]

Sadly, this is actually true. Now that I speak Spanish most of the time, I have started confusing my homonyms and have come out with gems such as "then I told to her."

ohwhynot · November 2010

Heh, Salt.

If I had the ass for them, I'd love jeggings. I like leggings except when they sag at the knee when you stand up. So comfy.

UO: I hate Glee.

Rosie109 · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:b989c77a-b803-4abf-87fa-2a14abf99860">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Hmmmm... "I don't care?"
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

<div>Is that the phonetic pronunciation?</div>

laladypoet · November 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : But then, wouldn't you have to be sentenced to death as well?
Posted by jamierobin[/QUOTE]
nope. not in my world.

tortis · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:05366af2-df31-48fc-ae38-489f5ff929e2">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE] 3. If I cannot understand someone <strong>than</strong> I will do my best to get them to someone who can, but I will not spend 20 minutes trying to decipher <strong>"I want the blue one" </strong>and will explain that I cannot understand them. 4. I do not expect people to know English if I was visiting Germany or Mexico, and as such<strong> I would never travel to any country without having a grasp on the language. </strong>5. I would never turn away from someone in need based solely on the fact that don't speak English 6. <strong>Calm down on the than/then thing it's called a mistake</strong> and you obviously were able to understand what I was saying. I am, probably forgetting something but I don't really think it matters to anyone anyways.
Posted by mgietler76[/QUOTE]

1. I'll calm down about you butchering the lanugage you demand that everyone learn once YOU learn it.

2. "I want the blue one" is not a difficult phrase. The way you were talking about not being able to understand customers who call you, I was under the impression that you worked at NASA rather than Ikea.

3. I'm glad you won't travel to other countries without learning the lanugage first. Since all other languages are beneath you, you obviously won't take the time to learn them and therefore will be forced to stay in America the rest of your life. That's actually great for us though, because we really don't need you running around being the poster child for ignorant Americans.

At first I thought your ignorance was funny, but now you're really starting to piss me off.

salt78 · November 2010

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[QUOTE]If you don't care, why answer? It's relative, it proves the difficulty of the english language. I've gotta go- highlight for answer It's pronounced Fish
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

<div>Oh jeez! You sure zinged me good!</div><div>
</div><div>And I think the word you were looking for was "relevant". English fail.</div>

Wrkn925 · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:917d4858-6080-40bb-8c3c-e78d8b0ebcf4">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Sadly, this is actually true. Now that I speak Spanish most of the time, I have started confusing my homonyms and have come out with gems such as "then I told to her."
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

Sometimes that's how a literal translation comes out.

I do love how possessive form is used in Spanish. It will get you mixed up, but it makes so much sense.

Beachy730 · November 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-10?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:9079978c-a97a-4b70-8eea-06b273ff4ad2Post:55e6dc4c-3b61-408e-a23f-008861f24f0b">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]Heh, Salt. If I had the ass for them, I'd love jeggings. I like leggings except when they sag at the knee when you stand up. So comfy<strong>. UO: I hate Glee.
</strong>Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

Now I understand how you can dislike someone off of one post.

JK, but I love Glee, so now I'm side-eyeing you!

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