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    [QUOTE]I disagree about making pot legal on the basis that people who are high dont do bad things. <strong>Pot is a gateway drug,</strong> and I cant imagine living in a world where everyone smokes pot.  Pot heads annoy the crap out of me.  When you are in an altered state of reality, you do fvcked up things.  Not everyone, but some. 
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I couldn't disagree more.  Alcohol is  the real gateway drug. 

    Just because something is legal, that doesn't mean everyone will do it.  Also, not everyone who smokes pot is a "pot head". 

    Alcohol is legal and not everyone drinks and people can drink without being an alcoholic. 
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    [QUOTE]I disagree about making pot legal on the basis that people who are high dont do bad things. <strong>Pot is a gateway drug,</strong> and I cant imagine living in a world where everyone smokes pot.  Pot heads annoy the crap out of me.  When you are in an altered state of reality, you do fvcked up things.  Not everyone, but some. 
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I don't agree with this. I was a hardcore stoner for about a year. I don't know that I was sober for any of that year. But I would have never gone and tried any harder drugs. And I don't know anyone who's said "May, if I hadn't  smoked that blunt in HS, I never would have done (insert drug here)".
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    [QUOTE]I agree with Blue. I think if it hadn't been for pot, my brothers and sister wouldn't have tried other drugs. It kills me just thinking about their amazing potential had they not done drugs. As it is right now, my sister and her 3 kids live with our mom, and my brothers both live with their friends (because there's no room at my mom's for them). 
    Posted by mehgank[/QUOTE]

    Mehg, I am in no way trying to argue with you because only YOU are in your family, but when I hear people say things like this I always wonder if their loved ones' first high came from pot, or alcohol.  I know I was sneaking booze before I even knew what pot was. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I couldn't disagree more.  Alcohol is  the real gateway drug.  Just because something is legal, that doesn't mean everyone will do it.  Also, not everyone who smokes pot is a "pot head".  Alcohol is legal and not everyone drinks and people can drink without being an alcoholic. 
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    I dont know anyone who does drugs and has a productive life.  And i know less than a handful of people who smoke pot and have never done another drug before.

    And the comparison to alcohol makes no sense to me, you can drink alcohol and not get drunk, you cant smoke pot and not get high.  That is the difference to  me.  Normal people (not alcoholics) drink alcohol for taste and enjoyment.  Most adults do not drink alcohol with the sole purpose of getting wasted.  Sure, some do, and a lot of younger adults do, but not the majority.  The only reason you pick up a joint is to get high.  Plain and simple.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I couldn't disagree more.  Alcohol is  the real gateway drug.  Just because something is legal, that doesn't mean everyone will do it.  Also, not everyone who smokes pot is a "pot head".  Alcohol is legal and not everyone drinks and people can drink without being an alcoholic. 
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    But what about the people who try pot and move on to other drugs prior to trying alcohol? I know of at least one person who is an example of this, and I can tell you right now, he's no shining example of a stand-up citizen.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I dont know anyone who does drugs and has a productive life.  And i know less than a handful of people who smoke pot and have never done another drug before. <strong>And the comparison to alcohol makes no sense to me, you can drink alcohol and not get drunk, you cant smoke pot and not get high.  That is the difference to  me.  Normal people (not alcoholics) drink alcohol for taste and enjoyment.  Most adults do not drink alcohol with the sole purpose of getting wasted.  Sure, some do, and a lot of younger adults do, but not the majority.  The only reason you pick up a joint is to get high.  Plain and simple.
    </strong>Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I agree with this.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I don't agree with this. I was a hardcore stoner for about a year. I don't know that I was sober for any of that year. But I would have never gone and tried any harder drugs. And I don't know anyone who's said "May, if I hadn't  smoked that blunt in HS, I never would have done (insert drug here)".
    Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.  In fact, when I discovered pot in HS, I even stopped drinking alcohol because I preferred being mello to a drunken lunatic.  I never even considered anything harder. 

    On the flip side, someone very close to me used to get the birght idea in his head to smoke crack whenever he got drunk. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Mehg, I am in no way trying to argue with you because only YOU are in your family, but when I hear people say things like this I always wonder if their loved ones' first high came from pot, or alcohol.  I know<strong> I was sneaking booze before I even knew what pot was. 
    </strong>Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    This. 

    I know a lot of people who stopped at pot.
    I didn't, but I just can't blame it on smoking pot.  I think the curiosity would have been there and I still would've tried other things if pot wasn't the first.
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  • I have to disagree on the alcohol thing.  I think most people drink because it 'takes the edge' off or whatever.  Maybe not as severe of an imparement as pot (I wouldn't know), but still the same result.  
  • lmaooo Agreed!!!! i laughed so hard at this post!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Mehg, I am in no way trying to argue with you because only YOU are in your family, but when I hear people say things like this I always wonder if their loved ones' first high came from pot, or alcohol.  I know I was sneaking booze before I even knew what pot was. 
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    Oh, it's ok, no worries. I enjoy seeing what others have to say. I see my family as a cautionary tale, and I'm sure they'd be the first ones to admit to you that their lives aren't what they had hoped they'd turn out to be.

    I can say with certainty that for my brothers, pot came first. For my sister, she started with alcohol, moved on to pot, then rapidly spiraled down into using whatever she could get her hands on, most recently heroin, oxycontins and crystal meth, which are her drugs of choice.

    I also think that their addictions greatly depend on their personalities. When one of my brothers gets really into something, say, playing the guitar, he'll do it nonstop for days on end. He'll lose sleep over it. He sees it as dedication; I see it as obsessively manic. He's also bipolar. My other brother has tried pretty much everything under the sun, but settles on pot because it's cheap and he's lazy.

    God, my family is such a mess, but I love them anyway.
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  • edited April 2011
    Sweded, it sounds like you had a drinking problem. I'm not understanding the comparison to weed.

    When I worked at the bar, I would get drunk every single night after I got off work. But I grew up and out of it, and stopped drinking.

    Just like I decided to stop smoking weed, because 1) I wanted to get a job, and knew that I couldn't have an interview and possibly do a drug test, and still get that job and 2) when I WASN'T high, I didn't feel well. And I knew that wasn't normal.

    But I still don't consider it a gateway drug.

    ETA: And both of my parents do/did drugs (cocaine, prescription drugs, etc) so that may have been why I DIDN'T go that route. I saw what it did to my brother and I, and chose against it. I have no idea if I would have tried something harder if my parents hadn't been addicts.
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    [QUOTE]lmaooo Agreed!!!! i laughed so hard at this post!
    Posted by ZainabA[/QUOTE]

    Agreed on what?  And what are you laughing so hard at?  It must be interesting since it warranted a lmaOOO.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I dont know anyone who does drugs and has a productive life.  And i know less than a handful of people who smoke pot and have never done another drug before. And the comparison to alcohol makes no sense to me, you can drink alcohol and not get drunk, you cant smoke pot and not get high.  That is the difference to  me.  Normal people (not alcoholics) drink alcohol for taste and enjoyment.  Most adults do not drink alcohol with the sole purpose of getting wasted.  Sure, some do, and a lot of younger adults do, but not the majority.  The only reason you pick up a joint is to get high.  Plain and simple.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I know plenty of people who have or do smoke pot and have a productive life.  Most of my close friends have smoked regularly at one point of another and never touched anything harder.  I guess we just run with different types of people.

    I don't see how people can NOT see the comparison between alcohol and pot.

    You absolutely can take a couple hits of pot and not get totally stoned.  "Normal people" may not drink to get wasted, but you're not going to convince me that they drink just for the taste of it either.  More often than not, it's somewhere in the middle.  They like having a drink or two because it relaxes them.  They may not get "drunk", but they are feeling the effects. 

    Both are mind-altering drugs that can easily be abused. 

    Plus, actual medical benefits have been found in marijuana.  What can alcohol do besides disinfect a wound?
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    [QUOTE]lmaooo Agreed!!!! i laughed so hard at this post!
    Posted by ZainabA[/QUOTE]


    Umm...say what?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I know plenty of people who have or do smoke pot and have a productive life.  Most of my close friends have smoked regularly at one point of another and never touched anything harder.  I guess we just run with different types of people. I don't see how people can NOT see the comparison between alcohol and pot. You absolutely can take a couple hits of pot and not get totally stoned.  "<strong>Normal people" may not drink to get wasted, but you're not going to convince me that they drink just for the taste of it either.</strong>  More often than not, it's somewhere in the middle.  They like having a drink or two because it relaxes them.  They may not get "drunk", but they are feeling the effects.  Both are mind-altering drugs that can easily be abused.  Plus, actual medical benefits have been found in marijuana.  What can alcohol do besides disinfect a wound?
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    I don't agree with this. I like the taste of beer. I do not like the too full, sick to my stomach, hazy eyed reaction I get after drinking a few.
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    [QUOTE]lmaooo Agreed!!!! i laughed so hard at this post!
    Posted by ZainabA[/QUOTE]

    OMG IT'S SO FUNNY!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : But what about the people who try pot and move on to other drugs prior to trying alcohol? I know of at least one person who is an example of this, and I can tell you right now, he's no shining example of a stand-up citizen.
    Posted by mehgank[/QUOTE]

    I'm not saying it doesn't go both ways.  I guess the point I always try to make in this debate is that every argument you can make against pot can be made against alcohol.

    IMO, alcohol is the more dangerous drug, but that's based on my life experiences and what I've seen in  my family and group of friends. 
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  • Everyone I know who smoked pot went on to harder drugs and are giant losers. There are maybe 1 or 2 people that smoked pot that quit that I knew. I've also seen people become violent after smoking a joint so I don't buy that "all people do is get lazy and eat doritoes".

    When I drink alcohol, I don't drink to get drunk or to take the "edge" off. I haven't actually been drunk since I was 19 and I just turned 22 last week. It's also never led me to try other drugs.
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  • Man, I'm really in the minority here, huh?
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    I agree that marijuana should be decriminalized. I also do not believe that it, or alcohol are "gateway" drugs. People do hard drugs because they want, not because they smoked a bowl or got drunk.


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    [QUOTE]I have a new opinion. I really like this 'commercial' that I just saw.   <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQozWP-rM&feature=player_embedded">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSQozWP-rM&feature=player_embedded</a> Thoughts? (This is a semi-post and run depending on how busy work gets after lunch.)
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    Eh. I'm certain there are better ways of saying we are wasting money than this commercial. It reminds me of the propaganda posters from WWII.

    ETA: Also, I whole heartedly believe weed is NOT a gateway drug. And I think the term 'gateway drug' is stupid.
  • I could see the whole gateway drug argument for both to an extent. At the same time, I do think that we are all genetically predispositioned to certain conditions including substance and alcohol abuse. IMO, people tend to start off with marijuana or alcohol, but it is not enough for them so they move onto "harder" drugs to suit their needs. I wouldn't say that marijuana or alcohol caused any further addiction because if chemically they are prone to become more addicted to certain substances, the alcohol or marijuana did not cause that addiction. Chemically our brains are all different and I can take Percocet for pain, and have it work for me as it was intended. However, someone else may take it, and get high from it. I wouldn't say that Percocet was the cause for it, the predisposition was already there. KWIM?
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  • If people really drank just for the taste and enjoyment and not because the alcohol made them feel good, then O'Douls would be a much bigger seller than it is.  Just saying.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Oh, it's ok, no worries. I enjoy seeing what others have to say. I see my family as a cautionary tale, and I'm sure they'd be the first ones to admit to you that their lives aren't what they had hoped they'd turn out to be. I can say with certainty that for my brothers, pot came first. For my sister, she started with alcohol, moved on to pot, then rapidly spiraled down into using whatever she could get her hands on, most recently heroin, oxycontins and crystal meth, which are her drugs of choice. I also think that their addictions greatly depend on their personalities. When one of my brothers gets really into something, say, playing the guitar, he'll do it nonstop for days on end. He'll lose sleep over it. He sees it as dedication; I see it as obsessively manic. He's also bipolar. My other brother has tried pretty much everything under the sun, but settles on pot because it's cheap and he's lazy. God, my family is such a mess, but I love them anyway.
    Posted by mehgank[/QUOTE]

    My brother is what I just call and addict.  I guess the main problem is alcohol, but he's struggles with gambling, adderal, fantasy football (I mean more into it than a hobby) and on and on.  He's doing really well now, but there was a LONG time where he'd be all proud of himself for cutting down on drinking while spening 12 hours a day playing online poker.  It's so hard to deal with somone who doesn't see that they just keep replacing one addiction with another.  I'm sorry you have to deal with that. 
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    [QUOTE]If people really drank just for the taste and enjoyment and not because the alcohol made them feel good, then O'Douls would be a much bigger seller than it is.  Just saying.
    Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

    I don't like the taste of O'Douls. :p
  • I dont think pot is a gateway drug. I just think it is the most popular and easiest to get for most peoples first experiences with drugs. If someone is going to move on to other drugs, they would probably have ended up doing so either way.

    Almost every person I know smokes pot and lead very productive lives, have jobs, some very good jobs. I agree the term "pot head" does not apply to every person who smokes pot.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I couldn't disagree more.  Alcohol is  the real gateway drug.  Just because something is legal, that doesn't mean everyone will do it.  Also, not everyone who smokes pot is a "pot head".  Alcohol is legal and not everyone drinks and people can drink without being an alcoholic. 
    Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

    I agree Swed.

    I have friends and/or friends of friends that only smoke recreationally, meaning on the weekends, but that doesnt make them a pothead does it? 

    I am for the legalization of marijuana btw....

     

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I<em> dont know anyone who does drugs and has a productive life.</em>  And i know less than a handful of people who smoke pot and have never done another drug before. And the comparison to alcohol makes no sense to me, you can drink alcohol and not get drunk, you cant smoke pot and not get high.  That is the difference to  me.  Normal people (not alcoholics) drink alcohol for taste and enjoyment.  Most adults do not drink alcohol with the sole purpose of getting wasted.  Sure, some do, and a lot of younger adults do, but not the majority.  The only reason you pick up a joint is to get high.  Plain and simple.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    I know plenty of these people......many of them hold high-paying jobs with very successful careers.

     

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