AYG/TK confessions/I Judge

Nebb · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:a6b12aa0-a6dd-408e-95ba-17bb50d3ee5c">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge : It comes off to me that she doesnt like anyone who hasnt been around as long as you guys have. Thats just my take on it. I rarely see that "nice" side of her to anyone but you guys.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]
Naa, I think she doesnt like people who say something she inadvertently takes offense too. She has commented a number of times about me attacking her or something when I havnt, shes just taken comments ive made personally.

missy68 · May 2011

Yeah - the three of you can kiss my ass.

Steph, you are incrediblyy judgmental and come off as snotty to me (but I'm guessing this falls into Neely/OBX territory), Blue, you like to start stuff and bring up controversial topics that appear to force people to disagree (especially the teaching post - because breaking up a bar fight and breaking up a school fight are the same thing), and Nebb, you've been a bitch to me ever since I disagreed with you about weight loss surgery.

So there's my grievance/confession/judgment.

Blueyed228 · May 2011

I didnt know that I possessed that kind of power where I could force people to disagree.

I must have Jedi mind tricks.

But I guess its better than crying about everything all the time. So you can probably say that they feeling is mutual in regards to people kissing others asses.

Nebb · May 2011

Hah, youre still holdin onto that huh? We didnt disagree, I voiced my opinion and you flipped out and thought I was critisizing you personally (which is something youre well known for). I rarely interact with you, so I dont know how I could be a bitch to you.

Steph0871 · May 2011

See. Now I like you more, Missy, because you actually said it.

That's not me being sarcastic, either.

[Deleted User] · May 2011

Missy, I rarely see Blue "start stuff." Most of the time, she's sharing her opinion on the matter at hand, and there's nothing wrong with that. Her stating her opinion doesn't "force" anyone to agree or disagree at all, people choose to engage. And even if they do, I've hardly ever seen blue get nasty. I'm not sure where that is coming from.

I didn't see the weight thread with nebb, but I've never seen her be a bitch to you for no reason. maybe you are taking it that way because you think she doesn't like you?

Steph0871 · May 2011

Missy said it before that she can't handle confrontation. Which is fine, to each their own. But I have to admit, I think it's silly to be part of an online community that revolves so much around discussion if you get physically sick from having someone disagree with you.

missy68 · May 2011

Nebb, it's the last time you actually interacted directly with me - I can't judge anything else. I tried early on to reach out to with Stephen King, and nope. So fine.
I got slammed by you a couple of times early on, and that was the last thing I interacted with you about. No - I'm not "holding on" to it. I don't care anymore what your opinion of me is.

Blue, I truly believe you totally knew exactly what I meant by saying that. You're always saying you'd like more drama on here.

Steph, I'm so sorry if complaining about a migraine or a work-related situation has appeared to be whiny to you. Because, I believe that's what this place was for?

The opinion the three of you have of me is pretty much inconsequential. Do I dislike confrontration? Fuvck yeah. I don't like drama. Between this morning, last night and tonight, I've had more than I care to have. I'm too old to deal with.

I was terrified for Ang last night, and wanted to help her how I could. And I thought your response was harsh, Steph, just as Ang said. I did not see you change it, nor go back and see an apology.

So you want it all said it to your faces? There you go.

Nebb · May 2011

The thing is though, I DIDNT interact directly with you. It was an I judge thread like A YEAR AGO, and I said I judge people who have gastric bypass surgery and you flipped. Ever since then, you always drop comments about how mean I am to you. Ive seen you do it numerous times, even recently. Makes no sense for you to do that if we dont interact and youre sort of embellishing your reasoning for thinking it.

Steph0871 · May 2011

Missy- I have no problem with you talking about migraines. I've done it. Hell, I'm pretty sure I've talked WITH you about them at some point or another. I can't explain, and I'm too tired to go through your posting history to find examples. But I feel like it's way more than just that. It's complaining about how people here are mean to you. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I hate oyu. BUT if you are going to complain about the fact that I disagree with you, I think that's lame. <div>
</div><div>and, re: ricks. Did you read the thread? Apparently not, so here you go:</div><div>
</div><div>7:51</div><div>[QUOTE]Are you ok, ricks?
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>7:56:</div><div>[QUOTE]Okay Steph I admit this is kind of weird coming from me though I see where you are coming from lol.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>7:58</div><div>[QUOTE]In Response to Re: JK are you here : Sorry. It was kind of a gut reaction. I didn't realize something was really bothering you. It was more of the "I need a psychologist" and no other info. That's all. I'm not a therapist, but I"m a damn good listener if you need anything.
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]</div>

Blueyed228 · May 2011

By saying what Missy? Because you never say anything to me. You say it other places where you feel like people will defend you. So im confused on what we are talking about.

Are you talking about when you said i was judgy in the moissonite thread? Cause i didnt see you post in that thread to me at all, but you seemed happy to get your validation when it got people talking about me on a different board.

Are you talking about when you said I only go to E for FFF? Because I dont remember the last time I posted in FFF.

Are you talking about when you said I force people to disagree? because i posted a thread to get others opinions, but since you are in education you had a stick up your asss about my opinion. You made it clear when you tried to trivialize a "bar fight in comparison to a school fight"

Are you talking about how you dont like to interact with people like me because you know I will defend myself? If that is the case, its pathetic. You only like to talk shiit to people you know wont say anything back?? LAME.

Or are you talking about when you said I can kiss your asss? because as of the past few months, that is the first time you have spoken directly to me. And like I said, the feeling is mutual.

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

Steph, I can't speak for Missy, but she might have been reacting to this initial comment from you in Ricks' thread (posted before the stuff you just posted):

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_jk-here?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:0f6e5a50-95b9-4121-9634-9c6577bbeda8Post:ca7468a5-f751-4c1c-988f-813eed8be4c6">Re: JK are you here</a>:
[QUOTE]Sorry, but this is weird.
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

I don't like these kinds of fights because there's no way to prove or dispute anything, it's just people venting their negative feelings about each other. Which I understand but it still makes me sad to watch. :( Anyway, that's my unsolicited opinion.

Steph0871 · May 2011

Yup. I realize that Beats. I can read.

BUT I then said I had gone in and clarified. At which point MIssy said she never saw me apologize or clarify. So I was showing her where I did.

Good thing you came here to settle this all for us. Going to fight all of Missy's fights now?

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:c9721449-9a8c-4ebf-bb70-1c27c38ecd53">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]Yup. I realize that Beats. I can read. BUT I then said I had gone in and clarified. At which point MIssy said she never saw me apologize or clarify. So I was showing her where I did. <strong>Good thing you came here to settle this all for us. Going to fight all of Missy's fights now?</strong>
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

*sigh* There it is. I almost didn't post because I figured it would be taken as such. But you and I have had this argument before about people posting just to back each other up, and I think we both think it's bullshit and yet it keeps coming up.

And I didn't say you couldn't read, nor did I say that you were wrong for posting what you did. You took it that way. I just think your initial comment was the one that could have been taken in an unsupportive way, as some people did. I think the subsequent posts that you re-posted here actually explained your actual (supportive and concerned) intent much better.

This is one of those times I wish you could see my face, because I'm seriously not trying to antagonize or attack you. Just pointing out something I thought was important to the issue being discussed.

Nebb · May 2011

Beats, you rarely post though, and when you do it always seems to be when youre backing someone up.

OutOfTheBlue612 · May 2011

Totally off topic, but I have a new grievance. I just looked at the 10 day weather forecast and it's predicting thunderstorms for the wedding day. Hopefully this will change over the next 10 days. The forecast this far out isn't always reliable. If it doesn't, oh well.

Steph0871 · May 2011

FTR: Here's where the original Missy annoyance came from.<div>
</div><div><a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knot-seriously-hates-fff" rel='nofollow'>http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knot-seriously-hates-fff</a></div><div>
</div><div>CN:</div><div>First this:</div><div>[QUOTE]No kidding. Good news is, if you really had a flame you kind of wanted "buried," today would be the day. I debated one of those, but decided not to.
Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]</div><div>
</div><div>then lots of "Missy, tell us!" and missy going "no, I won't." Then more "please?" then in overdramatic fashion, this:</div><div>[QUOTE]In Response to Re: The Knot seriously hates FFF. : OK fine. You win. But you and Manda are my posse. I think Blue was incredibly judgmental in the thread about moissanite stones and ring sizes, etc. It came across as very defensive. Same as with the post about a teacher breaking up a fight by getting into the middle of it.
Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]</div><div>and</div><div>[QUOTE]Kiki, I think that's probably the first two things we've ever agreed on. Manda, she's pretty much on SB exclusively, but usually shows up during FFF. I HATE confrontation - it makes me sick to my stomach, even online - and I don't often say things about people I know will argue back. Like Blue and Steph.
Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]</div>

Steph0871 · May 2011

Right. But how else was I supposed to take it? Seriously?

This isn't me being sarcastic or *gasp* snarky (I really hate that word, btw), but did you actually read this whole thread? Because I already had this conversation about how I realized my original post "Sorry, but this is werid" came across too harsh. So I went back and clarified.

So, either you didn't read that, or you thought I was full of shtt. I don't understand why I had to clarify myself three times.

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

I can definitely see how it seems that way Nebb. Honestly, I am drawn to the long and controversial threads since I only have time to lurk most days, so that's where I tend to chime in. But I also think that having a similar opinion to someone often gets taken as "back up" when it's really just what it is. I don't see why my frequency of posting should make my opinions seem any less my own, you know?

And for the record, Missy can fight her own battles and doesn't need me to defend her. I just saw that something was missing in one of the arguments against her and I thought I'd correct it. I'm not here to start a fight with any of you.

Steph0871 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:f724f41b-7c82-4892-874d-4ee850ef84eb">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]I can definitely see how it seems that way Nebb. Honestly, I am drawn to the long and controversial threads since I only have time to lurk most days, so that's where I tend to chime in. But I also think that having a similar opinion to someone often gets taken as "back up" when it's really just what it is. I don't see why my frequency of posting should make my opinions seem any less my own, you know? And for the record, Missy can fight her own battles and doesn't need me to defend her. <strong>I just saw that something was missing in one of the arguments against her</strong> and I thought I'd correct it. I'm not here to start a fight with any of you.
Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

<div>But that's exactly it. It wasn't missing. I already owned up to my 'mistake' in that thread last night. Unless you're not talking about that, then forget I'm saying anything ;)</div>

missy68 · May 2011

I posted in the teacher thread Blue, I do believe I posted in the moissanite thread, and yeah, I think our personalities just grate. We are polar opposites. You welcome confrontation; i.e.,will chase down a driver, when I'm the one who thinks it's not worth it and will go on.
I'm also no longer an active teacher; I was talking about policy when I was in. And frankly, I don't think breaking up a fight between adults in your situation IS comparable to breaking up one with children. You may not see that, but that is my opinion. It was not a slam on teachers vs. bar workers.
I do believe you've posted in an FFF, whether it was a flame or not. And I'll use the same line - I'm too tired, my head hurts, and I don't have the time to go look up the history.

Nebb - I don't know why you've not liked me ever. You flamed me when I was a newb, and I believe have talked to me twice since then. Oh wait - three times. The picture of SK's house, a mention of your going to his lecture, and that conversation. And yes - I did take your comments on GBS personally, because of mine. I didn't say you were talking ABOUT me, but the implication was that it was an easy thing/cheating or something along those lines. I was defending the procedure itself. Nothing I do or say will ever change whatever opinion you have of me, so whatever.

There are quite a few people on here I like who are new, and I talk to them sometimes. There are also those I don't. Quite frankly, most of the online people I knew are either no longer posting are on E. I don't "hide" over there. Yeah - poor choice of words.

Sesh, the Nebb stuff goes back a long time. You've not seen anything, because we don't interact. Same as there are people on E I don't interact with, or any other place.

So, like me or hate me, that's what it is, and that's what I think and my opinion is. And that's what I base it on.

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:e9b43860-4097-4dc1-9f3d-048e02452c65">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]Right. But how else was I supposed to take it? Seriously? This isn't me being sarcastic or *gasp* snarky (I really hate that word, btw), but did you actually read this whole thread? Because I already had this conversation about how I realized my original post "Sorry, but this is werid" came across too harsh. So I went back and clarified. So, either you didn't read that, or you thought I was full of shtt. I don't understand why I had to clarify myself three times.
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

Seriously, you sound really pissed and I'm not sure why. Like I said, I didn't say that you were wrong in what you posted, only that <em>given what you actually posted</em>, I can see how some people (including RIcks) were like wtf? I did read this whole thread and I saw that you and Ricks made amends, so congratulations.

You went back to quote everything you said in Ricks' thread to "prove" that you didn't say anything noteworthy, except you (intentionally or unintentionally) left out your first comment, which IMO was the only one that could have been taken the wrong way. Like I said, your other comments clarified your point well and no harm done. I just thought it was inaccurate for that first comment to be left out of your quote chain since your whole argument was that you didn't say anything that could have been construed as unsupportive. So I posted the missing comment, end of story.

ETA: Just saw your newest post. I see your point, but again I'm not arguing that what you did was wrong. If you hadn't framed your quote chain in that context to prove a point, then you're right, there would be no reason for me to re-post your initial comment here.

Nebb · May 2011

Seriously dude, do you keep a notebook of our interactions so you can be butthurt over it for years? Get OVER IT. Do you not realize how freaking weird what you just said sounds??

Steph0871 · May 2011

Missy, that's the thing. I really think you think 'we' hate you more than we do. And, I'm guessing that's exactly because of what you said. You dislike confrontation. Blue doesn't (and, let's be honest. Obviously I don't either.) So, to me... disagreeing doesn't necessarily mean arguing, and arguing doesn't necessarily mean confrontation. And none of those mean automatically hating someone.

Personally, I love when someone disagrees with me. I thrive on debates, because it's a challenge to me. It's a chance for me to see if 1. I really know what I'm saying and 2. if I really believe what I'm arguing. I LOVE hearing the other side of a story, and I love having my believes questioned for just those reasons. Admittedly, that carries over into other discussions on here too. I am realizing, though, that it usually just comes across as me being a bitch, even though that's usually not the intent.

But, I can see where you're coming from, so we can just agree to disagree I guess.

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

I'll agree to disagree with you Steph. I think we've got this thing down.

Blueyed228 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:4b7770b2-e7aa-4dd7-a43a-a1b4c702b3b2">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]I posted in the teacher thread Blue, I do believe I posted in the moissanite thread, and yeah, I think our personalities just grate. We are polar opposites. You welcome confrontation; i.e.,will chase down a driver, when I'm the one who thinks it's not worth it and will go on. I'm also no longer an active teacher; I was talking about policy when I was in. And frankly, I don't think breaking up a fight between adults in your situation IS comparable to breaking up one with children. You may not see that, but that is my opinion. It was not a slam on teachers vs. bar workers. I do believe you've posted in an FFF, whether it was a flame or not. And I'll use the same line - I'm too tired, my head hurts, and I don't have the time to go look up the history.Posted by missy68[/QUOTE]

You may have posted in those threads missy, but you didnt post the things that you posted in other places hoping i wouldnt see it.

I didnt said I have never posted in an FFF, I said i dont remember the last time I have posted in an FFF. But it was probably a response to you flaming me.

You are right to say we are polar opposites. I tend to say things to peoples faces and not try to bury them in a thread.

I tend to speak clearly and directly to those who I am talking to/about instead of passively aggressively implying that I may or may not be talking about them.

I do like to debate with people who will debate back with me.

I dont pick out people who will not argue back just because it makes me uncomfortable.

I dont take things that people might say in general about something I have done, been through, do for a living, etc personally when it is not shown in the light that I want it shown.

And I dont tell people to kiss my asss and then expect them to have an adult conversation with me.

Steph0871 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:28f8e25f-f76a-47f7-af55-06c8ef0676e4">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge : . You went back to quote everything you said in Ricks' thread to "prove"<strong> that you didn't say anything noteworthy</strong>, except you (intentionally or unintentionally) left out your first comment, which IMO was the only one that could have been taken the wrong way. Like I said, your other comments clarified your point well and no harm done. I just thought it was inaccurate for that first comment to be left out of your quote chain since your whole argument was that <strong>you didn't say anything that could have been construed as unsupportive. </strong>
Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

<div>first off- I'm not pissed, at all. Just explaining myself. Please see my most recent post about how my 'shortness' usually comes across bitchy. oops.</div><div>
</div><div>I see where you're coming from now. When I originally posted all of that, it was to follow up one what was already discussed. I had already copped to the original 'sorry, this is werid' comment, so I dind't think I needed to quote it again. I just posted those other quotes in response to Missy's claim that I never went back and clarified. I did, and I was proving that.</div><div>
</div><div>I NEVER said that I didn't say something that could be construed as unsupportive. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said I realized my original comment probably came across as too harsh, which is why I followed up later. Missy then claimed I never said sorry or came back to clarify. </div>

Steph0871 · May 2011

Holy shiit, my posts are getting more and more rambly and hard to follow.

CN: I totally agree that my original post in Rick's thread last night could have easily come across as too bitchy. But I apologized/clarified in that same thread, and I don't want Missy or anyone else to imply otherwise.

beatlesgirl25 · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:695926cd-e5cf-4a6b-af9c-cc41171ace36">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge : first off- I'm not pissed, at all. Just explaining myself. Please see my most recent post about how my 'shortness' usually comes across bitchy. oops. I see where you're coming from now. When I originally posted all of that, it was to follow up one what was already discussed. I had already copped to the original 'sorry, this is werid' comment, so I dind't think I needed to quote it again. <strong> I just posted those other quotes in response to Missy's claim that I never went back and clarified. I did, and I was proving that.</strong> I NEVER said that I didn't say something that could be construed as unsupportive. In fact, I said the exact opposite. I said I realized my original comment probably came across as too harsh, which is why I followed up later. Missy then claimed I never said sorry or came back to clarify.
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

Ah gotcha. I get it now too. And FTR, I think we actually agree on the last part but I rephrased it differently. Is there a Steph-to-Beats/Beats-to-Steph translation dictionary? If only!

ricksang · May 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_aygtk-confessionsi-judge?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:9b97e0e8-7124-48f3-a670-9f6e9fb4b3d1Post:a58c05f6-34a0-4070-a777-41a86078c865">Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG/TK confessions/I Judge : Normally, I would totally agree. I'm sure Missy could be really sweet IRL. But, in my observations on here, she's been nothing but whiny and pity-partying. So that's my background opinion on her, which obviously affects my reactions to stuff she says. I'm not sure if Ricks is still around, but I really really didn't mean it to be all "YOU CAN"T POST THAT HERE." I originally meant it like "this is weird. Is everything ok?" which I think I clarified later. Sorry if it came across anything more than that (which apparently, it did to some people.)
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

At first I thought you may be pissed b/c I wasn't caughing up what was wrong and then I got pissed BUT then I realzed it may be weird b/c it's coming from me b/c I never complain, so no biggie! :P

Missy meant well. I don't think she was trying to come off as a jerk. She knows completely what's going on with me and I think she just wanted to ensure that I am okay and protected. Missy has always been a real sweetheart to me :)

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