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  • @londinium215, I really hope the "sandwich and a chair line" is a joke. Damn.
  • I'm side-eyeing one of my coworkers who said something ignorant about politics and another who agreed with her.

    That is all.
  • I posted this on another thread in Snarky Brides. I think asking for money stuff is just getting more and more obvious, sadly. 

    I was over at a friends house the other night and they showed me an invitation (asking my opinion on what they thought was a typo because I'm a journalist). Front and center (attached to the front of the invitation and covering part of the front) is a lengthy poem asking people to not give them physical gifts and contribute cash to their wishing well at the wedding. So not only is it rude, but they didn't even make it slightly less tacky by putting it somewhere else instead of literally the first thing you see before you can even read half the pertinent details. It included the line "so put some money in a card." And the icing on the cake? The invitation itself said "reception and potluck to follow."

    The friends I was with were all saying "they're older," "they don't need stuff," "now they can use it for the honeymoon or whatever, this is a great idea" and I just sat there and silently judged.

    I really wish I would have right away, as soon as I saw it, said "ooh, asking for money, yeesh" or something that right away expressed disproval. Then, when they started in on "they're older," I could have said something like, "oh, I just know a lot of people find asking for money to be tacky and rude."
  • WinstonsGirlWinstonsGirl member
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    edited June 2016
    Every parent who requests a face to face meeting to understand why their kid is getting a B in PE and not an A.  Their non-athletic child who doesn't participate in sports outside of class and who is not active in any other way.  Why you waste my time??  And when did a B become a failing grade???  I think I'm up to 3-4 this term alone

  • edited June 2016
    @WinstonsGirl, I was a fat, clumsy kid who still got an "A for effort" in PE. My guess is that that was the parents' experience and they don't understand why that doesn't apply to their kids. That said, a B is definitely nothing to complain about.
  • A lot of the activities we do are A for effort (social dance, stuntnastics, wrestling, etc.), but there is still a skill portion for v-bal/basktball/badminton, etc.  

    I have 1 parent who calls me every term cos their kid is on the sports teams, so she should get an A.  1. she's not that great of an athlete.  We're a small school.  2.  She doesn't do anything in class.  I can't grade her on what she does after school/on weekends

  • @OurWildKingdom I want to believe it's all a joke, I do. But yesterday he posted a link to their honeyfund on FB with the comment "Three months from today I wed this amazing woman! Also, here is our registry in case you're bored at work."

    He does it every few weeks, I think. Definite side-eyeing happening from me. 
  • Mornings. All of the mornings. 
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  • Got a STD and went to the website. 1:00 ceremony 5:00 reception! Seriously, a 4.5 hour gap!
  • Got a STD and went to the website. 1:00 ceremony 5:00 reception! Seriously, a 4.5 hour gap!
    Even after all these years on TK, I still read "I got a STD..." and panicked a little for you.  :D 
    LOL! I know, I think that every time I read it too!
  • Every parent who requests a face to face meeting to understand why their kid is getting a B in PE and not an A.  Their non-athletic child who doesn't participate in sports outside of class and who is not active in any other way.  Why you waste my time??  And when did a B become a failing grade???  I think I'm up to 3-4 this term alone
    I dunno, I sort of think PE should actually be an "A-for-effort" type thing in general, particularly if it's a required class. I was a non-athletic, non-sports-playing kid and I would have been honestly really pissed if I got a B in PE because I was a straight-A student otherwise. Not pissed enough to ask my parents to intervene, but still! 

    If you take an art class you don't get penalized for not being a natural artist, so I don't see why you should be penalized in gym for not being a natural athlete as long as you're trying. Maybe I'm just not thinking it through though. 
    I agree with you. I wasn't super athletic in high school but I participated and tried, so I always got an A. It would have really bothered me not to, because I also had straight As. 
  • WinstonsGirlWinstonsGirl member
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    edited June 2016
    Ahh, but I teach the basic skills in PE and expect them to use the technique taught after practicing.  I don't care if you serve every ball into the net, so long as you are using proper technique.  There are many activities that you can't be physically active at without the basics of skill and technique.

    Anyway, skill is one of four components of our curriculum, so I have no choice in the marking of it or not.  I have to grade on it, but I weight it accordingly in comparison to the other 3 areas (effort, cooperation/teamwork/communication, etc.)

  • I hated PE. It was only after high school that I found physical activities that I liked and did well in. I think that schools need to focus more on life long physical activity and branching out to include activities that encourage students. I hated most of the PE curriculum as it focused too much on skills that I did not possess. Give me a ballet barre ... and I would have gotten an A.
  • In Alberta, we do focus on life long activities.  My goal is to teach a variety of activities and the basic skills/techniques for each so that kids can find something to be active in throughout their life.  I can't speak for other Provinces/States though.  

    And when I say skills/techniques, I'm talking about the basics such as different forms of movement (skipping, jogging, galloping, hopping, etc.) as well as basics such as throwing and catching a ball, kicking, or using something to hit an object (bat/ball, stick/puck, racket/ball or birdie).  I'm not talking about specifics such as spiking a v-ball or layups.  Those come from these basic skills being put together.  You wouldn't believe how many 15 year old kids can't throw properly, or even jog properly.  No wonder they hate PE when they haven't learned how to do these properly

  • In Alberta, we do focus on life long activities.  My goal is to teach a variety of activities and the basic skills/techniques for each so that kids can find something to be active in throughout their life.  I can't speak for other Provinces/States though.  

    And when I say skills/techniques, I'm talking about the basics such as different forms of movement (skipping, jogging, galloping, hopping, etc.) as well as basics such as throwing and catching a ball, kicking, or using something to hit an object (bat/ball, stick/puck, racket/ball or birdie).  I'm not talking about specifics such as spiking a v-ball or layups.  Those come from these basic skills being put together.  You wouldn't believe how many 15 year old kids can't throw properly, or even jog properly.  No wonder they hate PE when they haven't learned how to do these properly

    I'm in Alberta and I think the curriculum has changed a bit since I went through school. It was all about the extra skills that I couldn't do. I also hate court sports and field sports which doesn't help. I always did well in the social dance class and then we did a fun step aerobics class when we had to do something different due to our teacher being sick and I loved it. Give me that PE class, and I would have signed up for PE every year after it wasn't mandatory.
  • WinstonsGirlWinstonsGirl member
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    edited June 2016
    ernursej said:
    In Alberta, we do focus on life long activities.  My goal is to teach a variety of activities and the basic skills/techniques for each so that kids can find something to be active in throughout their life.  I can't speak for other Provinces/States though.  

    And when I say skills/techniques, I'm talking about the basics such as different forms of movement (skipping, jogging, galloping, hopping, etc.) as well as basics such as throwing and catching a ball, kicking, or using something to hit an object (bat/ball, stick/puck, racket/ball or birdie).  I'm not talking about specifics such as spiking a v-ball or layups.  Those come from these basic skills being put together.  You wouldn't believe how many 15 year old kids can't throw properly, or even jog properly.  No wonder they hate PE when they haven't learned how to do these properly

    I'm in Alberta and I think the curriculum has changed a bit since I went through school. It was all about the extra skills that I couldn't do. I also hate court sports and field sports which doesn't help. I always did well in the social dance class and then we did a fun step aerobics class when we had to do something different due to our teacher being sick and I loved it. Give me that PE class, and I would have signed up for PE every year after it wasn't mandatory.
    We got the new curriculum in 2000.  It focuses on Activity (skills), Benefits Health (wellness, nutrition, physical activity), Cooperation (teamwork, communication and sportsman like behaviour) and Do It Daily...For Life (being active for life).  But, as with everything, teachers matter too, and there were still a lot of old school teachers who taught based on skill alone.  I was lucky to have my methods (teaching PE) class at Uni taught by one of the writes of the curriculum, so we got a fantastic understanding of the new curriculum at the time

    Edited, cos I don't know why it centered

    And it still is



  • Oh, I'll play. Here's what I'm side-eyeing at the moment...

    When every other post on social media is someone you went to high school with trying to sell you body wraps and face creams.

    "Share to give one respect" posts.

    People explaining their or their child's sickness in full disgusting detail when there is no purpose to do so. A simple "He is getting better" or "I'm feeling under the weather today" will suffice.
    I despise those posts!
  • In Alberta, we do focus on life long activities.  My goal is to teach a variety of activities and the basic skills/techniques for each so that kids can find something to be active in throughout their life.  I can't speak for other Provinces/States though.  

    And when I say skills/techniques, I'm talking about the basics such as different forms of movement (skipping, jogging, galloping, hopping, etc.) as well as basics such as throwing and catching a ball, kicking, or using something to hit an object (bat/ball, stick/puck, racket/ball or birdie).  I'm not talking about specifics such as spiking a v-ball or layups.  Those come from these basic skills being put together.  You wouldn't believe how many 15 year old kids can't throw properly, or even jog properly.  No wonder they hate PE when they haven't learned how to do these properly
    But like... what if they just can't throw well? Or jog right? Particularly if they were never taught how to in prior gym classes? That just doesn't seem like something that's their fault, if they are trying at least.

    With academic subjects you get bumped down to the level that's somewhat appropriate for you- so if you had the misfortune of bad reading teachers throughout elementary and middle school, you're in a remedial reading class in high school where the standard for reading is appropriate for you. No where that I've ever heard of has gym classes that operate the same why- it's very one-size-fits-all, and if you're grading on skills and a kid lacks natural skills and has missed the opportunity to be taught well in prior grades, I guess they are just out of luck.

    I'm not trying to argue with you, I just think the idea of a gym class based on skills is interesting and problematic for those reasons. And if the parents are flipping out over a B, it seems plausible to me that grades are important to those kids and I can empathize with feeling irate the one blemish on my transcript is because I just lack the ability to aim a ball- even though a B isn't the end of the world, it does stand out a lot more when everything else is an A.

    Obviously I have gym class hang-ups, lol. I never understood why learning to play softball or basketball should be any more mandatory than any other non-academic activity, like trying to draw or act- and yet for most high schoolers in America it is. 
  • In Alberta, we do focus on life long activities.  My goal is to teach a variety of activities and the basic skills/techniques for each so that kids can find something to be active in throughout their life.  I can't speak for other Provinces/States though.  

    And when I say skills/techniques, I'm talking about the basics such as different forms of movement (skipping, jogging, galloping, hopping, etc.) as well as basics such as throwing and catching a ball, kicking, or using something to hit an object (bat/ball, stick/puck, racket/ball or birdie).  I'm not talking about specifics such as spiking a v-ball or layups.  Those come from these basic skills being put together.  You wouldn't believe how many 15 year old kids can't throw properly, or even jog properly.  No wonder they hate PE when they haven't learned how to do these properly
    But like... what if they just can't throw well? Or jog right? Particularly if they were never taught how to in prior gym classes? That just doesn't seem like something that's their fault, if they are trying at least.

    With academic subjects you get bumped down to the level that's somewhat appropriate for you- so if you had the misfortune of bad reading teachers throughout elementary and middle school, you're in a remedial reading class in high school where the standard for reading is appropriate for you. No where that I've ever heard of has gym classes that operate the same why- it's very one-size-fits-all, and if you're grading on skills and a kid lacks natural skills and has missed the opportunity to be taught well in prior grades, I guess they are just out of luck.

    I'm not trying to argue with you, I just think the idea of a gym class based on skills is interesting and problematic for those reasons. And if the parents are flipping out over a B, it seems plausible to me that grades are important to those kids and I can empathize with feeling irate the one blemish on my transcript is because I just lack the ability to aim a ball- even though a B isn't the end of the world, it does stand out a lot more when everything else is an A.

    Obviously I have gym class hang-ups, lol. I never understood why learning to play softball or basketball should be any more mandatory than any other non-academic activity, like trying to draw or act- and yet for most high schoolers in America it is. 
    But what if a kid can't read, or do math well, cos they weren't taught at an prior math or LA class?  It's not their fault either, if they're trying?  Should we just pass them along, or give them an A for trying?

    I can lower a skill for all levels, and do almost every class.  I can teach these skills from the most basic progression, adding on each time until a complete skill is taught, even with my grade 9's.  Most of my 'B' kids don't actually practice these skills - they just want an A for showing up and don't understand why they have to show they are learning instead of for just being a good kid in class.

    It's the same for other subjects too.  If you had a shitty teacher in elementary school and can't read, or do math, should you get an A just for trying and being in class?  You still have to demonstrate a certain level of skill in that area.  And often, kids bust their asses to learn and still can't achieve higher than a C.  Should they get an A for trying if they still can't read?  Our math/LA classes are still grade level based, not skill, level until high school.  We just give different programming within the same class for different kids.  By high school (here), you are achieving a grade based on the curriculum for that class (and not grade level), so a lower level class will have different curricular outcomes than a higher/mainstream level class.  

    I can't speak for anywhere other than Alberta, but the Arts and CTF classes are mandatory here too, until grade 9.  Students just have a choice of which they choose to take (art, drama, music, etc.).  PE is mandatory until grade 10.  One of our main problems here is that PE is still taught by generalists who don't do as well of a job as specialists.  My school has 2 PE specialists (myself and the other male PE teacher).  For several years, we taught from grades 2-9, ensuring most kids were getting taught these basic skills.  Unfortunately, that costs more money, and we're now back to grades 7-9 only.  Our elementary teachers prefer us teaching their PE and know the kids aren't getting as much out of it.  We need to get more specialists into the early grade levels, just like we have music and reading specialists for the young grades.  

    Sorry, I'm very passionate about getting kids active and moving and having the basic skills to participate in any activity they want to in the future.  :)     

    ETA - Clarity
     If I'd had you as my gym teacher, I might've actually enjoyed the class!  I loved learning the techniques, but they weren't taught in class at all.  I only learned some from playing soccer and running track, as extra-cirriculars.  

    As it was I despised gym.  Mandatory, year round, through 12th grade, and was basically a macho-pissing match for the athletic boys.  They'd take one class to teach a new sport, then divide us into teams and referee them.  I don't think I learned a single technique directly from a gym teacher.  I loved winter, because we had a choice to have girls only gym, boys only or coed.  I always picked girls only, it was way less aggressive.  Mostly Pilates videos, but I actually learned from the tapes.  Thank goodness it was only graded on participation.

    Thanks for letting me vent.  I'm glad to hear you're doing so much, and I hope your students appreciate you!  I'll keep this in mind when DD reaches school age, and advocate for better gym teachers-I honestly never realized that could make a difference (stupid of me, I know, but...yeah my school's gym classes, and lots of other things, were a hot mess).
  • I know I keep harping on the same wedding (as it approaches quickly). Received invite which broke most etiquette rules and even had the name of the ceremony venue wrong - no address given and no address given for reception venue. My son, didn't receive an invite but is invited - they just didn't know his address. Bride is dictating what each side of the family wears including MOG's boyfriend. This on top of planning her shower (not officially hosting it which is a step up from the baby shower. Now I'm anticipating a cash bar and a dance with the bride for pay (name escapes me).
  • @ILoveBeachMusic, are you thinking of the dollar dance? My family has done it at some weddings, but it's not happening at ours.
  • @ILoveBeachMusic, are you thinking of the dollar dance? My family has done it at some weddings, but it's not happening at ours.
    Yes, thank you! I just couldn't for the life of me remember the name of it.
  • My memories of PE are this "let's all gang up on the kids who aren't athletic and humiliate them" with the PE teacher being the biggest bully of the lot. I still hate the idea of PE classes. 

    Not to mention the sexual harassment from the boys and the teacher shrugging it off. The coed swim classes in high school were brutal for us girls, the boys vocally and loudly told what they thought of your body and the PE teacher laughed it off.

  • My memories of PE are this "let's all gang up on the kids who aren't athletic and humiliate them" with the PE teacher being the biggest bully of the lot. I still hate the idea of PE classes. 

    Not to mention the sexual harassment from the boys and the teacher shrugging it off. The coed swim classes in high school were brutal for us girls, the boys vocally and loudly told what they thought of your body and the PE teacher laughed it off.
    I was athletic and I had a similar experience in PE class. It was a lot of laughing at girls like me in shorts who might be a bit more middle heavy. Or being yelled at from across the room by gym teachers who couldn't be bothered to pull you aside, and instead chose to humiliate you in front of an entire class of people for not being as athletically gifted as others.

    God forbid you DID do something like serve the ball into the net, that got another round of laughter from everyone. Getting to stop gym class at age 16 was the best part of high school.


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