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danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]I still think that discussing a personals facebook habits on here is a d*ck move.  There is a general rule here that another persons "real life" shouldn't be brought onto the boards unless it is by their doing, and in my opinion facebook falls under "real life."    If you have an issue with someone unfriending you, take it up with them through there or through PMs.  There's no reason for it to brought onto the boards.  I everyone squawking about how it was so ok might feel a little differently if it was them it had been happeneing too.   Not the end of the world of course, but still something thats just not cool. 
Posted by eastunder1[/QUOTE]

I think that's the chance you take when you FB friend Knotties.    If someone I unfriended or declined a  friend request from mentioned it on the board, I might feel a little on the spot, but I wouldn't consider it personal information  and I certainly wouldn't freak out about it.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Wow that was a ridiculous leap if I've ever seen one. Seriously. *eye-roll*
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

Actually, I think it's quite logical.

But I guess people choose to subscribe to different brands of logic.

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Wait, so him having cancer and going through chemo =/= free pass for chemo brain, but being his spouse = free pass to be awful to him. Got it.
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

I thought it meant free passes for everyone in the P2 household.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Wait, so him having cancer and going through chemo =/= free pass for chemo brain, but being his spouse = free pass to be awful to him. Got it.
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]


No, actually.   

I just don't pass judgment on her for it or flame her for it.  She's had a lot to deal with.   Maybe he had a reason for not showing up, maybe he didn't.  We don't actually know what discussions went on between them after he didn't show up.

I'm simply saying that while chemo brain (I'd never heard of this) may be a valid excuse for him, the stress that his illness has caused for P2 can also be a valid reason for her to overreact to something.

salt78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF :  If it is not for the attention of trying to create a divide, then what is it? Fill me in.
Posted by MeaghanandMichael[/QUOTE]

<div>I feel like there is a divide also. I just don't talk about it. </div>

beatlesgirl25

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Hey, hey, hey. You keep that bisexual business on SB Beatles!
Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]

Ha! Is that what this bisexual business is all about? Well then, color me a polyamorous poster I guess. :)

salt78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Hey, hey, hey. You keep that bisexual business on SB Beatles!
Posted by jasmineh7777[/QUOTE]

<div>*eyeroll*</div>

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Actually, I think it's quite logical. But I guess people choose to subscribe to different brands of logic.
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

Logic =/= taking a statement, intentionally inferring it to its extreme because you have a juvenile issue with the person the statement is about and then trying to pass of your extreme as what was actually, clearly, meant. That's not logic, that's lunacy. But thanks.

Celles

I thought it meant empathy for everyone in the P2 household. 

AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : I feel like there is a divide also. I just don't talk about it. 
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Clearly, that means you're not a spaghetti-tantrum-throwing bitch like me.  Shame.

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]I thought it meant empathy for everyone in the P2 household. 
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Oh. That sounds better than mine.

goheels05

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : <strong>For an army that was defending one thing - the right to own slaves. </strong>But I do sort of get what you're saying. At the time, they were trying to form their own nation, inclusive of everything a nation should have. It's just that... they went to war over one single, solitary states right. Also, *golf claps* for Eastie.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Wrong, wrong, wrong.  Where the hell did you learn US history?

I am not denying that the confederate flag is offensive and screams WT to use at your wedding.  You can read the short novel I wrote on the Ceremonies board if you care to. But don't continue to spread lies and misinformation.  The Civil War was about state rights, most importantly, the right to secede from the rest of the nation due to ambiguity of the wording in the US Constitution.  The main reason they wanted to secede was because tariffs on their exports were being used almost exclusively north of the Mason-Dixon line.  Lincoln brought slavery into the mix to rouse Federal troops, because otherwise, why would anyone in New York or Massachusetts give a flying fuuck if the southern states formed their own nation? 

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]I thought it meant empathy for everyone in the P2 household. 
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Amen. But you know, EiC is channeling Nebb's too big for her britches stance lately.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : That is patently untrue, and if you're going to talk about history, know what you're talking about.  Slavery was yes, and underlying issue, but if it was THE issue then that's what Lincoln would have used to gain troops from the outset.  It wasn't. <strong> Because slavery wasn't an issue even for a majority of the NORTHERN population.</strong> However, I will not deny that the feeling that people have about it is what is given to us now, not what it actually was.  I also think that it's not appropriate for a wedding in the slightest.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

I agree that probably 90% of people in the north didn't care about slavery one way or the other. But almost every event that the south used as justification for getting all butthurt at the north had to do with slavery. Actually, the primary cause of the war was probably manifest destiny - in that both the north and south believed the US was destined to expand to the Pacific. They just had very different views about whether or not slavery would be allowed. Missouri compromise? Bleeding Kansas? Ring a bell?

Other causes of the war:

Dred Scott decision - slavery
Compromise of 1850 - upset the balance in the senate between free states and slave states

And there's more, I just don't feel like talking about them or looking things up right now.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No, actually.    I just don't pass judgment on her for it or flame her for it.  She's had a lot to deal with.   Maybe he had a reason for not showing up, maybe he didn't.  We don't actually know what discussions went on between them after he didn't show up. I'm simply saying that while chemo brain (I'd never heard of this) may be a valid excuse for him, the stress that his illness has caused for P2 can also be a valid reason for her to overreact to something.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

I agree that I don't know his reasons, but I can't see in any world, for any reason, that bitching how your husband puts a dish in the dishwasher and not feeling bad about it subsequently is not petty and immature.

I just think it's shitty, cancer or not.  And if having cancer doesn't excuse his behavior, then it shouldn't excuse hers.

salt78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Clearly, that means you're not a spaghetti-tantrum-throwing bitch like me.  Shame.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

<div>I think the funniest thing about you being called out for throwing a tantrum is that this is a flaming thread where people vent about what is on their minds. It's not like you started a whole new thread just to talk about this. </div><div>
</div><div>That would be an attention whore move. Methinks there is just some butthurt-ness about what you are saying. </div>

Celles

Oh, there's a divide.  But given how much cross-over there is between the two boards, it's a stupid one.

Someone should make a Venn diagram.

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]Oh, there's a divide.  But given how much cross-over there is between the two boards, it's a stupid one. Someone should make a Venn diagram.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Can we put me in the middle... with like... Edward or something...? No?

quotequeen

I flame plantation girl for trying to defend her position by getting into an argument about which side was right in the civil war.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Logic =/= taking a statement, intentionally inferring it to its extreme because you have a juvenile issue with the person the statement is about and then trying to pass of your extreme as what was actually, clearly, meant. That's not logic, that's lunacy. But thanks.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

?

I didn't infer anything.  Moose said that she's been through a lot with dealing with it on her end.  While I don't deny that, and feel awful for her, I don't think I'm inferring anything.

But go ahead and call me a lunatic just because I don't agree.

jasmineh7777

Sorry, is humor not allowed? My bad.

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Amen. But you know, EiC is channeling Nebb's too big for her britches stance lately.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

Is EiC me? And if so, how? Genuine question, I definitely haven't meant anything that way and am not sure what came across that way.

If not, I will just quietly hum "You're So Vain" to myself.

nda_roxybabe

Alix, we're not turning this into twi talk but I totally had a dream about Twilight last night

smokeybailey

Is it me or does this FFF seem more vitriolic than usual?

MeaghanandMichael

Well, if there is a divide, talking about it and pushing the envelope are surest way to ensure it continues. Unless, people want the divide to continue which makes no sense to me other than to bring attention to themselves and where they fit in the scheme of things.

On a related note, it is interesting you added "bitch" into the sphaghetti throwing scenario, Amoro. Once again you are trying to bring things to a more amped up level for the drama. So typical.

sarabellam

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Can we put me in the middle... with like... Edward or something...? No?
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

AND, we have our first Twilight reference. All we need is for this thread to veer to cake, and FFF will follow its usual course.

nda_roxybabe

Of course not Jas, this is FFF. No funny allowed.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Logic =/= taking a statement, intentionally inferring it to its extreme because you have a juvenile issue with the person the statement is about and then trying to pass of your extreme as what was actually, clearly, meant. That's not logic, that's lunacy. But thanks.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

And I have no issues with P2, I just thought it was pretty awful and thought that this was the point of FFF.

Did the rules change?  Did I miss it while posting on SB?

Celles

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Can we put me in the middle... with like... Edward or something...? No?
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

Well, if one circle was Edward and the other was Jasper...  I don't see any other logical place for you to be.  ;)

ohwhynot

It's not just you, Smokey.