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wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Oh then no, not at all. I really did mean what Celles said - empathy for both and cutting them both some slack - and just used "free pass" since that was the term that had previously been used. I basically meant that I agree with Moose, they've both been through a lot and don't deserve to be jumped on for things that under normal circumstances would be jump-able.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]


1.  I hate the word "free pass"  I'm more down with forgivable.   Some actions are, some aren't.

2.  I really wish I could've said what I was thinking as simply as Celles.  It probably would've saved some confusion about the free-passes I had printed up and was handing out.  Someone seemed to think I might run out of them.

jasmineh7777

I'm sure Mery knows about WWII as well. Just as we all know about slavery. I really don't think there needs to be a discussion of which was worse, because that surely won't end well.

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Okie dokes! Well then, I apologise. I just found the use of free pass came across as being really sarcastic and unnecessary. But sorry, again, if that's not what you meant.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]

No worries, I'd rather you say it and give me the chance to explain than have other people sitting there thinking I'm a giant bitch for something I never intended.

sucrets4

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : please read what I'm saying Sucrets. I'm actually giving BOTH of them a free pass, not just one or the other, because of his illness.  I'm not throwing red flags or hating on Mr. Pumpkin for being late.  I'm also not hating on P2 for being upset about it because of the same external solution. You're assuming that I think Mark is awful for being late.  I don't.  But, the same reason it's understandable that he was late, it's understandable that P2 was angry - if irrationally so. When it comes to cancer there are no guarantees, there are no definite answers.  It had to suck to expect to see your husband for lunch, then have him not appear, making it one more thing she couldn't count on.  One more indefinite where a couple of years ago, everything was more definite and predictable.
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Okay, but I don't understand why some pity cards are allowed to be played here and some aren't.

Most of us have been through something traumatic and haven't brought it to the boards.  And when they do, they get raked across the coals when they use it as an excuse.  I understand that she didn't, but other people are doing it for her.

Do you think it was easy for me or my husband to watch my tiny preemie daughter be hooked up to a ton of machines with a feeding tube down her throat and an IV in her fragile arm?  How awful it makes me feel to know that my body was unable to support her growth to term?  How painful it was to leave her in the hospital every night?

Many of us are dealing with shiit, but are a) not airing petty revenge on a public board and b) trying to work together with our spouses on things.

wadingmoose

So, how about that time the Canadians set fire to the white house?

danieliza1127

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Okay, I can see that.  But who is the SB?  The board hoppers (who seem, frankly, to make up the majority of the posts, imo)?  The original group who left with intention?   The new people on there?  All the "just admit it" type comments seem to be aimed at who you call the original people who left with intention.  But why do the actions and intent of those people = the snarky board? 
Posted by ohwhynot[/QUOTE]

Good point. 

I really do want to drop it but it's so hard because when I see things said, I feel like I have to put in my two cents.  When people on SB complain about E and how much they hate it but then continue to post here, it's just mind boggling.  I need to just ignore it and trust me, I try. 

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : No worries, I'd rather you say it and give me the chance to explain than have other people sitting there thinking I'm a giant bitch for something I never intended.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

Well I definitely don't think you're a giant bitch; I actually quite enjoy you (this may or may not have more than a little something to do with the fact that you're the only person I've seen around these parts with a dress similar to mine...).

salt78

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF :  When people on SB complain about E and how much they hate it but then continue to post here, it's just mind boggling.  I need to just ignore it and trust me, I try. 
Posted by danieliza1127[/QUOTE]

<div>GAAAHHHHH THIS!</div>

eastunder1

I fully comprehend the whole story.  I get why people left.  I could make guesses as to exactly who the people were that they left over.   It's not like those of us who want everyone to stfu are morons who don't "get it".  I just don't see the point in dragging it out and trying to make it all dramatic just because people are butthurt by it.  People are allowed to leave if the company is getting on their nerves.  They don't have to answer to anyone about it. 

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : seriously, msmerymac? you sound so freaking ignorant. are you aware that Hitler orcestrated the systematic mass murder of millions? have you heard of that, or did you sleep through WW2 and the Civil War in school?
Posted by angie74[/QUOTE]

Your point? Yes, I know I'm doing it wrong. When a conversation devolves into talking about Nazis, that person loses. Rules of the internet.

Amoro, my point was that the lowest common denomenator was slavery. Not that weren't a lot of nuances and other things involved. That is all. I agree with Sarah#s, she's just way more eloquent.

Dropping it now.

alixzafiris

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[QUOTE]So, how about that time the Canadians set fire to the white house?
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

*snort*

mandysmear

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[QUOTE]I love EmilyinChile.  That is all. And yes I'm doing it wrong. 
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

What's not to love?  She's hot.

sucrets4

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-36?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d7860f92-8453-49fc-9aba-580bebadb515Post:9d0d4000-4507-4f29-ac76-a566892d49ac">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]Also in P2's situation: Just because it took her a couple days to get over something =/= she was being a horrid rude bitch to him constantly during that time. <strong>Maybe she just needed to vent somewhere. A lot of us do that here last I checked. </strong>
Posted by salt78[/QUOTE]

Of course, but as the E party line goes, when you write it on a public forum, you open yourself up to judgment.

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Okay, but I don't understand why some pity cards are allowed to be played here and some aren't. Most of us have been through something traumatic and haven't brought it to the boards.  And when they do, they get raked across the coals when they use it as an excuse.  I understand that she didn't, but other people are doing it for her. Do you think it was easy for me or my husband to watch my tiny preemie daughter be hooked up to a ton of machines with a feeding tube down her throat and an IV in her fragile arm?  How awful it makes me feel to know that my body was unable to support her growth to term?  How painful it was to leave her in the hospital every night? Many of us are dealing with shiit, but are a) not airing petty revenge on a public board and b) trying to work together with our spouses on things.
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

::blink::

In that case, if you decide to be a raving bitch to your husband, I'll also see it a forgivable and understandable?

nda_roxybabe

You know, its not like anyone said "E people are not allowed to post here" someone may have said I wish they wouldn't but that doesn't mean anything.
I wish stupid people wouldn't post here but they still do. So what?

arbolita

Sometimes it's better to use the internet as a sounding board for your frustrations instead of automatically taking them out on your H.

alixzafiris

You'll all note that Moose is wisely steering clear of the Nazi conversation. Hahaha.

angie74

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Well, the Confederates had Andersonville, in addition to that whole slavery thing.
Posted by sarah0725[/QUOTE]

nobody is saying the south was full of a bunch of peace seeking angels. and a lot of what they did may have been wrong.

but seriously. to compare the death of 13,000 prisoners of war to the systematic death of millions of innocent civilians is a little bit skewed.

georgia_bride09

Many of us are dealing with shiit, but are a) not airing petty revenge on a public board and b) trying to work together with our spouses on things.

She posted about it in a Confessions thread. I don't see the big deal. There is not a single person on Earth who hasn't done something petty for no reason at some point. We're not all in perfect relationships where we never make mistakes. It was not that big of a deal. It's not like she used his toothbrush in the toilet. Damn!  

jasmineh7777

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[QUOTE]You know, its not like anyone said "E people are not allowed to post here" someone may have said I wish they wouldn't but that doesn't mean anything. I wish stupid people wouldn't post here but they still do. So what?
Posted by nda_roxybabe[/QUOTE]

Sometimes the crazy people are fun. If only sane people came here, we'd run out of things to talk about. Maybe not Be-you-tiful crazy though. That was just sad.

pumpkinpumpkin

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[QUOTE]I flame p2 for acting like a child because her husband forgot to meet her.  I'm sure it wasn't intentional and to keep on being pissed at him and picking unrelated fights for TWO DAYS just reeks of immaturity. I mean, it's not like he just went through chemo or anything, sheesh. <a href="http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MBC/content/MBC_2_3x_Chemobrain.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.cancer.org/docroot/MBC/content/MBC_2_3x_Chemobrain.asp</a>
Posted by sucrets4[/QUOTE]

He didn't exactly forget to pick me up. He was on his way, stopped to talk to a buddy, and lost track of time.

Celles

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[QUOTE]So, how about that time the Canadians set fire to the white house?
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

<3

I <em>so</em> wanted to make a joke about logic CLEARLY being something we're missing in our American water, but I didn't think it would be well-received with this weird tension thing we have going on.  Thanks for giving me my excuse.  ;)

smokeybailey

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[QUOTE]So, how about that time the Canadians set fire to the white house?
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Mark pulls this card all the time.  ::shakes fist at the Canadians::

wadingmoose

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fff-36?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d7860f92-8453-49fc-9aba-580bebadb515Post:01c10f19-460f-4090-ab9b-236778f89562">Re: FFF</a>:
[QUOTE]You'll all note that Moose is wisely steering clear of the Nazi conversation. Hahaha.
Posted by alixzafiris[/QUOTE]


I have a mental block on that word.  Whenever I see it, I replace it with flowers and butterflies followed by the Beatles singing Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.  Then I skip the rest of the post while singing.

nda_roxybabe

I like some crazy because yes it is fun but theres others I wish wouldn't post but still do, I can't stop anyone. I don't think anyone thinks they can actually stop people from posting.

AmoroAgain

Also, I flame Nugget for starting this, and then not contributing at all.

jasmineh7777

Ang- I think the comparison was to slavery. Or rather she was talking about two instances of mass oppression.

nda_roxybabe

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[QUOTE]Also, I flame Nugget for starting this, and then not contributing at all.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

I can get on board with that.
Nugs, where's your flames?

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]So, how about that time the Canadians set fire to the white house?
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

DED.

My mom and stepfather live about 3 blocks from a War of 1812 battle field and they're planning some huge events over the next few years. My stepfather will argue with you all day that the war was pretty much only between New York and Canada. Yet Maryland is getting a bunch of money for reinactments due to the whole Francis Scott Key thing and he's mad about it. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />

wadingmoose

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: FFF : Mark pulls this card all the time.  ::shakes fist at the Canadians::
Posted by smokeybailey[/QUOTE]

Hey, it's only only real victory in our super secret war on the US.

Canada has a private offboard for it.