Happy Saturday Morning!

Birdie1483

Steffi, just stop talking and go away. Seriously. We don't like animal abusers here.

Snippylynn

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : <strong>No, the dog chased my horse often to the point of having a lathered up horse. It chased my cats. It chewed crap on my deck. It shiiit on my front walk</strong>. Owners refused to keep it at home. Landlord is good friends with owner, landlord refused to allow me to call A/C and would have forced me to move horses that night (and could due to clause in lease). I attempted to resolved it with the neighbors and nothing was resolved. I resolved it with the dog. Life sucks for the dog because his owners suck. Life will not suck for my horse, who is at home, in her pasture. I have no mental illness.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]
NONE of that is grounds for killing a dog you idiot. 

MyUserName1

Welp, today's morning thread went of the rails in a particularly insane fashion.

WTF just happened?  Am I suffering from heat stroke from spending the afternoon outside in a wig and ball gown?

No one here actually bear maces dogs and dreams of murdering them, right?

StefffiC

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : Then that is your own god damn fault. You fuuucking sucked at reading your lease. You shouldn't have moved there. That is 100% on you that you chose to be a dumbass and get into a shiiittty lease.
Posted by ErinG93[/QUOTE]

Most leases have a clause that allows the landlord to force you to remove pets if they are a problem. That's a standard clause.

musicalsunlight

Steff I think you are missing the point. We realize that the dog is a nuisance on your property. What we don't get is you saying you willfully hope the dog dies or gets "taken care of" by another pissed off neighbor. If anything, I feel awful for this poor dog who is not being properly controlled and taken care of. 

ErinG93

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : Just wondering - did the dog come back? Or did they keep it at home? Had the dog come back you would have let it kill your dog? Or you would have defended your dog? Had it come back 30? 40? 50? times you would have just let it attack your dog and done nothing to it if it's owners would do nothing? I doubt it.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

<div>My dog doesn't live there. We were visiting for day at my parents. So no, my dog hasn't had another run in with the dog, but my IL's now lock the dog up when I call and let them know we'll have Fox out at my parents. It's what I think is an easier solution than going hog wild with a gun.</div>

LeiselEB

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : No, the dog chased my horse often to the point of having a lathered up horse. It chased my cats. It chewed crap on my deck. It shiiit on my front walk. Owners refused to keep it at home. Landlord is good friends with owner, landlord refused to allow me to call A/C and would have forced me to move horses that night (and could due to clause in lease). I attempted to resolved it with the neighbors and nothing was resolved. <strong>I resolved it with the dog</strong>. Life sucks for the dog because his owners suck. Life will not suck for my horse, who is at home, in her pasture. I have no mental illness.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

The bolded is the most ridiculous thing I've ever read. You didn't resolve anything with the dog. The dog can't reason with you. You were cruel to a dog. You MACED a dog. 
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</div><div>Then, obviously, like everyone has been saying to you throughout this thread - STOP GOING TO YOUR LANDLORD. Call ACTUAL AUTHORITIES who know how to deal with this. </div><div>
</div><div>SSS is a disgusting concept. </div><div>
</div><div>Does your psychiatrist know about your desire to kill animals? Honestly, Steffi, it is not normal. </div><div>
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StefffiC

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[QUOTE]There is seriously no reason to involve the landlord at all. They have absolutely NO ability to tell you to call or not call animal control. 
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]

They do have the ability to force me to remove my cats and horses from the property. Our houses are 15' apart.

It was a terrible situation. I moved the horse who had the majority of the problems with the dog once there was space for her. My cats haven't set a foot outside since one got attacked two weeks into my year there.

Snippylynn

There is a giant difference between a dog that brutally attacks another animal, and one that chases them around. One is violent, the other is a nuisance.

Once again, your reasons are stupid. If your horse wanted to, it could trample that dog, or kick it and the problem would solve itself. 

musicalsunlight

But you calling the landlord on ANOTHER PERSON'S ANIMAL is not making your animals the problem. 

ETA : Not calling the landlord. I mean calling the cops. 

Birdie1483

Seriously Steffi, nothing you say is going to make us be like "Oh ok I get it now". Seriously. You will now be remembered as the dog macer. You might actually be worse than M&K. Good job.

Now fuuck off.

StefffiC

I don't randomly kill animals - that's not at all an honest statement.

We're not in a city, the county authorities may have gotten involved. There would have been major issues with the landlord that I live 15' from a share a driveway with.

I offered to pay a trainer for the dog and was refused. I couldn't get out of my lease.

[Deleted User]

The visual of a dog being maced is just heartbreaking.

The fact that someone maces a dog and then thinks "situation resolved" makes me weep for humanity.

ErinG93

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[QUOTE]I don't randomly kill animals - that's not at all an honest statement. We're not in a city, the county authorities may have gotten involved. There would have been major issues with the landlord that I live 15' from a share a driveway with. I offered to pay a trainer for the dog and was refused. I couldn't get out of my lease.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>So call the county authorities! They're fucking cops too, dumbass. You are so ridiculous.

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Anysunrise

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[QUOTE]I don't randomly kill animals - that's not at all an honest statement. We're not in a city, the county authorities may have gotten involved. There would have been major issues with the landlord that I live 15' from a share a driveway with. I offered to pay a trainer for the dog and was refused. I couldn't get out of my lease.
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

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</div><div>Well, you could always call animal control and tell them the dog's being abused, because living next to you has certainly made that true.</div>

LeiselEB

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : So call the county authorities! They're fucking cops too, dumbass. You are so ridiculous.
Posted by ErinG93[/QUOTE]

<div>This. This. This!</div><div>
</div><div>Steffi, seriously. Get over your landlord. Who cares where the landlord lives? Call the county authorities. </div>

MyUserName1

well, jeez, there's no possible way that MACING A DOG could cause problems with your neighbors and landlord, so I totally get why that's a valid solution instead of just calling the appropriate athorities.  That makes complete sense.  You definitely made the correct choice there.

[Deleted User]

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : Well, you could always call animal control and tell them the dog's being abused, because living next to you has certainly made that true.
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

This made me snort, in a "How pathetic that this is true" kind of way. Ridiculous.

Leisel, totally OT but you have some beautiful pics. I don't even like most wedding dresses but you look perfect in yours.

PetalPockets2012

I left for awhile and wow. Steffi, you make no sense. What I don't get is that you are so concerned about your animals being but then chose to hurt another person's animal. Yes, chose. You always have options. You chose violence.

LeiselEB

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : This made me snort, in a "How pathetic that this is true" kind of way. Ridiculous. Leisel, totally OT but you have some beautiful pics. I don't even like most wedding dresses but you look perfect in yours.
Posted by Seshat411[/QUOTE]

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</div><div>Thank you so much!</div>

adamar15

Good lord.  Let me preface this by saying I am not defending Steffi in the least, but it's really not that ridiculous to think that a horse can get injured from being chased by a dog.  It can happen, and if some neighbor dog was chasing my horses you can bet your ass I would take care of the problem.  That being said, obviously I think Steffi is nuts for how she is handling the situation.  Steffi, I don't understand how your landlord is stopping you from calling animal control.  Do they make you ask permission before using the phone?  

Rosie109

Dude you suck so much balls. soooo much. so much balls. 

specialk84

Steffi, you're an asshole. A cruel, cruel asshole. Go fuckk yourself.

StefffiC

No adamar, but since they're the property owner and are onsight and they allow and encourage the dog, there's not a lot that can be done in the regards of calling and making a report. And, they would force my horses off the property.

I attempted talking nicely to the neighbors. I offered to pay a trainer to work with the dog, with whatever method the owners were okay with, if shock collar was chosen then I offered to buy the equipment needed. I took the dog home every time it was on my property, and I'm a freakin' insomniac who's up all night. I made all kinds of attempts to keep the dog at home, and no one did anything. If we'd had electric hot wire I could have run a ground wire, but we have 3 board wood and I rent so I couldn't run another fence.

This went on for several months of attempts at resolution, me retaining an attorney, attempting to break my lease, and lots of attempts at other resolution. I just wanted the dog to leave my horse the heck alone. I ended up moving my horse over 2 hours away for multiple reasons where I cannot ride her or see her because even with the dog leaving every time he saw me he still chased her when I was not home. She's older, with arthiritis, cushings, and chronic laminitis.

I really just wanted my horse to be left alone. I gave up on my cats after the dog chased my cat off the deck and into the woods and the cat went missing for 10 days. Cat come home with an abcess that required surgery, spent two days in the hospital, and lost 3lbs through his ordeal. Dog climbed over the deck gate to get the cat.

No one, dog's owner or property owner would do anything to help the situation. It was a very ugly situation on all sides and my horse was losing.

adamar15

You don't have to be the property owner to call animal control.  Just for future reference.

StefffiC

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[QUOTE]You don't have to be the property owner to call animal control.  Just for future reference.
Posted by adamar15[/QUOTE]

No, but if the property owner is on site and lives there it's a civil dispute about the dog more than a criminal dispute over the leash law. Because the property owner encourages the dog and has no problem with it being on their property.

I had this discussion with an attorney last year.

adamar15

I really don't know what else to say to you.  I have horses, too, but I would never think of macing a dog nor would I wish it got hit by a car.  

StefffiC

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[QUOTE]I really don't know what else to say to you.  I have horses, too, but I would never think of macing a dog nor would I wish it got hit by a car.  
Posted by adamar15[/QUOTE]

Push someone far enough into a corner and they'll eventually do something.

I'll never rent another farm, I'll board and rent or I'll own a farm, but that was part of the issue - the landlord has no contractural agreement to protect my horses as a boarding barn does and if I do something she's unhappy with she can claim that my animals are a nuisance and throw them out. I learned some lessons, but ultimately everyone lost in the situation.

I wish the dog would go away in a quick, painless way. But, I'm out of there at the end of August, my remaining horse is out mid August, and my cats have been sequestered for over a year and can't go sun on the porch. Because of irresponsible neighbors.

StefffiC

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[QUOTE]STOP WISHING FOR THE DOG TO DIE.
Posted by EaglesBride2012[/QUOTE]

Why don't we wish for them to keep the dog at home so he can't play in the road? That would be better.

'Cause he can't get hit by a car, if he's where he belongs. Nor would he get injured by a horse or cow. Or eat something he shouldn't.

You know, maybe his owners should take some fuuucking responsibility.

JessAndTrav

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Happy Saturday Morning! : Why don't we wish for them to keep the dog at home so he can't play in the road? That would be better. 'Cause he can't get hit by a car, if he's where he belongs. Nor would he get injured by a horse or cow. Or eat something he shouldn't. <strong>You know, maybe his owners should take some fuuucking responsibility.</strong>
Posted by StefffiC[/QUOTE]

Exactly. THE OWNERS. Not you.

Take it up with the owners and be persistent. Don't resolve to torturing an animal that doesn't know better.

If you're so desperate for a solution for your horse, then board it with the other horse. It's only a month.

FFS, you're absolutely BSC, because you refuse to see how what you're doing to this poor animal is DISGUSTING.

Question:

If your neighbor's child was tearing up your property and harassing your horses, (some farm kids are crazy) would you bear mace the kid too?

If that was actually happening, the parents would be to blame, because the child doesn't know better.

THE SAME LOGIC APPLIES FOR A DOG.

You are such an idiot.