New KPS

FutureMrsFezz

Shann, fortunately it's not a genetic thing.

Mrs.B6302007

Even with perfect circumstances, including charting, the average couple has just over a 25% chance of conceiving each month.

ETA: conception is really an amazing process!

ETAA: and not saying that to be negative - just sharing the scientifc facts.  That makes anyone who takes multiple cycles to get pregnant "normal".  =-)

Mrs.B6302007

Fezz - YGPM

Mrs.B6302007

Temping tip

If you have wonky temps that are all over the place, they could be affected by mouth breathing at night.  You can switch to vaginal temping and have more steady temps.

edited: spelling

mica178

One of my SILs (and BIL) spent nearly three years TTC, had two miscarriages, and finally has a healthy, beautiful baby.  My other older SIL had a failed IVF session and is now doing acupuncture to help both her and BIL's fertility.  MY PCOS friend got pregnant soon after stopping the Pill and before she even bothered charting.  Life is funny.  I'm a little worried that things won't happen when we do eventually feel like having kids, but I try not to let it bug me yet.

Of course, if we're all still knotting in a couple years, you all might see BSC TTC mica.  Hopefully someone will be able to talk me off the fence at that point.  :P

Oh, and that first KPS?  Whoever you are, I'm sure that your H would LOVE it if you initiated.  You know what they say: a hoar in the bedroom, a saint in the kitchen.  And to the second KPS -- it's all about free will.  H has friends who do all sorts of unsavory things, and I still trust him because I know and love him.  Eta: also, H tells me I'm 100000 times hotter than any stripper he's ever seen.  

annakb8

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[QUOTE] also, H tells me I'm 100000 times hotter than any stripper he's ever seen.  ;)
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

Ha, that's why I don't mind so much if FI goes to strip clubs. He went to Mons Venus in Tampa last month for a friends bach party and told me all about how all the girls were too skinny and how much prettier I am. As far as I'm concerned he can go whenever he wants if he comes home and strokes my ego like that.

Beachy730

The only way I can understand the whole "I don't trust FI's friends" reasoning, is if it's what they are planning for the party.  If your H has told you that he doesn't want strippers for his bach party and won't have them, okay I can see that you don't trust his friends not to get them.  But as for what he would do, that's on your FI.  Like the old saying, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.  Your FI's friends can put a naked stripper in front of him, but they can't make him touch her or do anything with her.  

I want to give a huge hug to everyone who's currently TTC.  Like Mica said, 3 cycles isn't as long as I'm sure it seems,and when your perfect baby is ready to be there, he/she will.  

Calypso, your comment made you sound like a giant asshat because there are clearly people, even just in this thread, who have been trying more than 1 to 2 cycles without getting pregnant.  To basically say that you should be able to get pregnant in 1 to 2 cycles is just flat out rude to them.

FutureMrsFezz

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_new-kps-4?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:ef5e43ef-7dc3-46af-b157-b023ed9a24b5Post:9bdaa396-c953-4036-aca9-feadf75df516">Re: New KPS</a>:
[QUOTE]Even with perfect circumstances, including charting, the average couple has just over a 25% chance of conceiving each month. ETA: conception is really an amazing process!
Posted by Mrs.B6302007[/QUOTE]

Thank you.
And another PM. :)

Mrs.B6302007

Be sure to read my ETTA on that quote above ;-)

Calypso1977

bay, if you are charting, there is a good chance you could get prego first or second try.  i know IRL several ladies who did.

this is what i wrote.  i said good chance.  i didnt say it was a sure thing. and again, i based this on folks i know IRL who have had this experience.  but again, you cant rely solely on temps.  you have to look at several signs for the best result.  my posts were meant to be encouraging and helpful to those who are doing charting.  im sorry if they were interpreted differently.

mica178

Anna -- I made H take me to Mons Venus once because I'd heard so much about it.  I was not impressed.  You are far more attractive than those girls, and you probably don't try to rob your FI every time you spend time together or snort cocaine every time you say that you're in the bathroom.

waltzingmatilda13

Calypso, you're burying yourself here. There's no "good chance". There's about a 25% every cycle. It scientifically doesn't get any better than that. It does happen faster for some people and it takes time for othesr, but it's all the same odds every. single. time. 

Beachy730

Mica - not to be that person who asks for medical advice on the internet, but calling base med is near impossible.  I was put on penicillin for my root canal, will that affect my BC?  Getting KU is definitely not what I want right now since that would mean me delivering during a deployment.

baystateapple

(Butting in) DNB, I went on penicillin last summer and my doctor told me to use a back-up barrier method just in case.  You might want to, just to be safe.

Beachy730

Thanks Bay.  That's what I figured.  

mica178

Dnb -- penicillin usually does not affect BCP efficacy.  Most antibiotics do not, although a rare handful (rifampin is the most common one) can.  

** yada yada, this is not official advice **

laurenpm

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: New KPS : Ha, that's why I don't mind so much if FI goes to strip clubs. He went to Mons Venus in Tampa last month for a friends bach party and told me all about how all the girls were too skinny and how much prettier I am. As far as I'm concerned he can go whenever he wants if he comes home and strokes my ego like that.
Posted by annakb8[/QUOTE]
<div>FI went to a strip club for a friend's bday once and all the guys got (jokingly) annoyed with him b/c the whole time he would say "She doesn't have curves like lauren" "Her boobs aren't as nice as lauren's" etc. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-laughing.gif" border="0" alt="Laughing" title="Laughing" /> And that is why I heart him. </div>

Beachy730

Hmmm, okay thanks.  I have heard that it's not true about antibiotics, but at the same time I wonder why it's always on BC pills.

Dang, why can't I ever be prescribed an antibiotic during AF week? 

Calypso1977

funny, web md says you can increase your odds by charting.
http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/fertility-tests-for-women

the link also states what i said earlier - that temps arent the only thing to watch.

mica178

Kids, stop jumping on Calypso.  I'm sure that her internet voice came off differently from what she intended.  A lot of us are super sensitive to the fertility thing, but I doubt that Calypso meant her words as an attack on anyone.  We've all had that day when our TK words were misinterpreted.

Mrs.B6302007

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[QUOTE]bay, if you are charting, there is a good chance you could get prego first or second try.  i know IRL several ladies who did. this is what i wrote.  i said good chance .  i didnt say it was a sure thing . and again, i based this on folks i know IRL who have had this experience.  but again, you cant rely solely on temps.  <strong>you have to look at several signs for the best result. </strong> my posts were meant to be encouraging and helpful to those who are doing charting.  im sorry if they were interpreted differently.
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]


Agree with this 100% especially if you are trying to avoid.  Temp, CM, and cervical placement are the best combo.

Ghoti

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: New KPS : Yeah, maybe crayons = kids = pee. But it's a stretch. I can understand the Best Man on a little bit. But in reality, it does come down to trusting your FI, because even if the Best Man tries to buy him hookers and blow, it's still up to FI to turn him down.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
I'm with ya cfas!!

Ghoti

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waltzingmatilda13

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[QUOTE]funny, web md says you can increase your odds by charting. <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/fertility-tests-for-women">http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/fertility-tests-for-women</a> the link also states what i said earlier - that temps arent the only thing to watch.
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>But that's only because you are more aware of your most fertile days. If you have sex on your most fertile days of course you are probably going to get pregnant faster* as opposed to just doing it every day or every other day. And no one said that temps are the ONLY thing to watch. You made it sound like CM was the only thing to watch and temps didn't matter. That was my issue with your original statement. </div><div>
</div><div>ETA: But that still doesn't change the fact that you only have a 25% regardless. </div><div>
</div><div>And I'm done. 

</div>

Calypso1977

there are some methods, as  i said earlier, that dont use temps at all.  only the sympto-thermal method uses temps.

im done too. 

Ghoti

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_new-kps-4?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:ef5e43ef-7dc3-46af-b157-b023ed9a24b5Post:4116ef15-ac3b-46e5-9ff7-c82ff69346f2">Re: New KPS</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: New KPS : But that's only because you are more aware of your most fertile days. If you have sex on your most fertile days of course you are probably going to get pregnant faster* as opposed to just doing it every day or every other day. And no one said that temps are the ONLY thing to watch. You made it sound like CM was the only thing to watch and temps didn't matter. That was my issue with your original statement.  ETA: But that still doesn't change the fact that you only have a 25% regardless.  And I'm done. 
Posted by waltzingmatilda13[/QUOTE]
Why is there only a 25% chance? If you ovulate every month and have sex every 3 days, wouldn't you get pregnant? <div>
</div><div>ETA- not arguing, genuinely have no idea :D</div>

FutureMrsFezz

the link also states what i said earlier - that temps arent the only thing to watch

FFS.  I don't believe anyone ever said that temps were the only thing to watch.

waltzingmatilda13

MrsB, YGPM

FutureMrsFezz

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: New KPS : Why is there only a 25% chance? If you ovulate every month and have sex every 3 days, wouldn't you get pregnant?  ETA- not arguing, genuinely have no idea :D
Posted by Ghoti[/QUOTE]

No.  We have sex everyday, I ovulate and I'm still not pregnant.  Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

Mrs.B6302007

Ghoti - you have to factor in the male side of pregnancy, too: sperm mobility and quality and ability to penetrate the egg.  That can fluctuate and it's such an intricate process that if one little thing is off or goes wrong, penetration of the egg may not happen.  Even if the egg is penetrated implantation may not occur or the cell division may not occur, either.  Ovulation is no guarantee that pregnancy is going to happen since that's only part of the process.