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Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]Sweded, it sounds like you had a drinking problem. I'm not understanding the comparison to weed. When I worked at the bar, I would get drunk every single night after I got off work. But I grew up and out of it, and stopped drinking. Just like I decided to stop smoking weed, because 1) I wanted to get a job, and knew that I couldn't have an interview and possibly do a drug test, and still get that job and 2) when I WASN'T high, I didn't feel well. And I knew that wasn't normal. But I still don't consider it a gateway drug. ETA: And both of my parents do/did drugs (cocaine, prescription drugs, etc) so that may have been why I DIDN'T go that route. I saw what it did to my brother and I, and chose against it. I have no idea if I would have tried something harder if my parents hadn't been addicts.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

Nope. No drinking problem here. My only problem is that I do it so infrequently now that sometimes I forget that I'm not my 22-year-old "drink every weekend" self anymore and end up buzzed off a beer and a half. lol. I don't really get where you got a drinking problem out of my posts.

I stopped drinking/smoking for the same reasons you did. I, too, have dealt with a lot of addiction in my family. The main problem has been alcohol. I see it as far more dangerous that pot. They are both mind altering drugs, so why isn't okay to compare them?

allisong23 · April 2011

I think that for many people, addiction (whether it be to booze, drugs, food, etc.) has a biological/genetic component. It doesn't matter what you start with, whether it is pot or booze, it will escalate to a higher level for that group of people. I am not talking about the kids who get baked in HS or drink like a rock star in college. I am talking about the kind of people you see on shows like Intervention. Once they start one, they are going to be an addict, whether they stick with what they started with or move on to harder drugs. So, bottom line, I don't think pot is a gateway drug, because if they are going to be an addict, they are going to do it one way or another.

I think all of us can come up with personal examples to prove our point (i.e. my brother/bff/roommate started with pot and is now doing ____, or the opposite (I smoked pot and never did anything harder), but in the long run, individual examples don't mean much when you are looking at the billions of people that have access to booze and pot, because for every story on one side, there is another on the other side. I hung with the stoner crowd in high school and college, and I don't know anyone that did anything harder than acid or became a drug addict. I do know several people that became alcoholics. I can count on one hand the number of people I knew that still smoke, and they all hold productive lives. There are obvious cases that go the other way, but I don't give either side any more weign\ht than the other.

FWIW, I think pot and prostitution should be legalized and the government should tax the crap out of them like they do booze.

cupcakesfrosting · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Nope. No drinking problem here. My only problem is that I do it so infrequently now that sometimes I forget that I'm not my 22-year-old "drink every weekend" self anymore and end up buzzed off a beer and a half. lol. I don't really get where you got a drinking problem out of my posts. I stopped drinking/smoking for the same reasons you did. I, too, have dealt with a lot of addiction in my family. The main problem has been alcohol. I see it as far more dangerous that pot. They are both mind altering drugs, so why isn't okay to compare them?
Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

I said it sounds like you "had" a drinking problem.

Denise91980 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]I think that for many people, addiction (whether it be to booze, drugs, food, etc.) has a biological/genetic component. It doesn't matter what you start with, whether it is pot or booze, it will escalate to a higher level for that group of people. I am not talking about the kids who get baked in HS or drink like a rock star in college. I am talking about the kind of people you see on shows like Intervention. Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]
100% AGREE!

Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I don't agree with this. I like the taste of beer. I do not like the too full, sick to my stomach, hazy eyed reaction I get after drinking a few.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

I like the taste of beer, too. Maybe it's just because I'm a lgihtweight, but I know opening that beer that I'll feel a little more relaxed after it. I wouldn't open it if I wasn't okay with that. I don't really like the feeling of being drunk either, but a little bit of a giggly buzz can be fun. I have that after one beer (or glass of wine when I dare drink it), so I guess I just don't get drinking for the taste because I almost always feel it a little.

SarahPLiz · April 2011

My opinion is that people should be learn how to deal with life without relying on mood-altering substances (with the exception of the mentally ill, of course). I don't think legislating it is the key, though. I think a lot of it has to do with parenting, and how we see our parents cope with loss, disappointment and stress. Personally, I don't like mind-altering substances, or the way I feel when I use them. I did it in HS, and its just weird to me now to think that someone could really and truly like being drunk or high and not having control over themselves.

Also, I believe that Alexander Tiberius is way too long of a name, and that Julian is not feminine at all. So there DH!

Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : It can be used to treat poisoning from toxic alcohol. It enriches food without leaving any alcohol behind when cooked properly, it is a disinfectant as you said, and can also be used as a solvent and a fuel.
Posted by rhonwynv[/QUOTE]

I guess I meant just medically. When my Aunt was dying of breast cancer, pot was the only thing that alleviated her nausea enough for her to eat. I guess that's one of the reasons I'll never see it as being as bad as some people do. I have seen it do a lot of good and I have NEVER seen it ruin someone's life.

cupcakesfrosting · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I like the taste of beer, too. Maybe it's just because I'm a lgihtweight, but I know opening that beer that I'll feel a little more relaxed after it. I wouldn't open it if I wasn't okay with that. I don't really like the feeling of being drunk either, but a little bit of a giggly buzz can be fun. I have that after one beer (or glass of wine when I dare drink it), so I guess I just don't get drinking for the taste because I almost always feel it a little.
Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

Oh, I'm a lightweight too, but I know my limit and rarely go over it. I think the last time I got drunkdrunk, was the night my grandmother was diagnosed. My dad and I drank almost a magnum of red wine between the two of us. I do know I was trying to dull the pain, and I knew then that it wouldn't work. But I did it anyway.

Blueyed228 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I know plenty of people who have or do smoke pot and have a productive life. Most of my close friends have smoked regularly at one point of another and never touched anything harder. I guess we just run with different types of people. I don't see how people can NOT see the comparison between alcohol and pot. You absolutely can take a couple hits of pot and not get totally stoned. "Normal people" may not drink to get wasted, but you're not going to convince me that they drink just for the taste of it either. More often than not, it's somewhere in the middle. They like having a drink or two because it relaxes them. They may not get "drunk", but they are feeling the effects. Both are mind-altering drugs that can easily be abused. Plus, actual medical benefits have been found in marijuana. What can alcohol do besides disinfect a wound?
Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

Im sorry, but that sentence really fvucking irked me and I would like you to explain what you meant there.

Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]Everyone I know who smoked pot went on to harder drugs and are giant losers. There are maybe 1 or 2 people that smoked pot that quit that I knew. I've also seen people become violent after smoking a joint so I don't buy that "all people do is get lazy and eat doritoes". When I drink alcohol, I don't drink to get drunk or to take the "edge" off. I haven't actually been drunk since I was 19 and I just turned 22 last week. It's also never led me to try other drugs.
Posted by avsfan33[/QUOTE]

Do you know for a fact that joint wasn't laced with anything?

blush64 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : But that's not really what prostitution is. It's buying and selling of sexual favors. I totally understand why people wouldn't want it legalized and I don't honestly expect it to happen anymore than I expect weed to suddenly be okie dokie with the government. But prostitution is not the same as slavery.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car.

I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.

SarahPLiz · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : If you give your son the middle name of Tiberius my FI will be eternally jealous of him.
Posted by rhonwynv[/QUOTE]
Oh, that part is set in stone. Its the first name we won't have decided until we meet him, probably.

avsfan33 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Do you know for a fact that joint wasn't laced with anything?
Posted by Sweded[/QUOTE]

Considering I know the dealer who grows their own, yes.

Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]I could see the whole gateway drug argument for both to an extent. At the same time, I do think that we are all genetically predispositioned to certain conditions including substance and alcohol abuse. IMO, people tend to start off with marijuana or alcohol, but it is not enough for them so they move onto "harder" drugs to suit their needs. I wouldn't say that marijuana or alcohol caused any further addiction because if chemically they are prone to become more addicted to certain substances, the alcohol or marijuana did not cause that addiction. Chemically our brains are all different and I can take Percocet for pain, and have it work for me as it was intended. However, someone else may take it, and get high from it. I wouldn't say that Percocet was the cause for it, the predisposition was already there. KWIM?
Posted by Denise91980[/QUOTE]

I agree, Denise. I think 9 times out of 10, people start off with what they think are the more "safe" drugs and when those aren't getting them high enough, they move on to harder drugs.

SarahPLiz · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car. I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]
So does the modeling profession, except it objectifies both sexes. Are you against that too?

Blueyed228 · April 2011

Sweded- you seem to be doing an awful lot of justifying in defense of pot. You dont have to discredit peoples bad experiences with it (i.e. saying it was laced with stuff) just because you have a different stance on it.

NuggetBrain · April 2011

Sorry, but I honestly think that if having a beer or a drink didn't relax you and make you feel good, you wouldn't be drinking it. People seem to think that there's either sober or wasted and no inbetween. There's a lot of inbetween. So just because you're not getting drunk off one beer and it's not super noticable that you've been drinking, doesn't mean that you're not feeling the effects of alcohol on your body.

http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content

crose29 · April 2011

If prostitution were legal, would they still need pimps?

maratea · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car. I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]
I'm fairly certain that there are a lot of men doing this anyway, regardless of whether they are picking up a hooker or going on a date.

Sweded · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I said it sounds like you "had" a drinking problem.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

Okay...when? I still don't see where that came from.

sherrbearr22 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]Denise, I want pajama jeans, too. I'm sure they would be very unflattering, but I still want them. I want to see them IRL, then I can make a full decision.
Posted by Wrkn925[/QUOTE]

I bought a pair yesterday...well they're really more like jeggings. But they came with the black leggings I was buying - it was a 2 pack - so it's really not my fault. And my six year old niece says they look fabulous on me. LOL who am I to argue, the kid's got style ;)

Edited -for spelling

LessThanZero · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car. I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

People do this all the time with anyone. Even for dating, if a guy is attracted to blondes with long legs and green eyes, then he's probably not going to ask a girl out on a date if she's short, brunette and has brown eyes.

ETA: Mara beat me to it. : )

OBX2011 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : Considering I know the dealer who grows their own, yes.
Posted by avsfan33[/QUOTE]

I have never ever heard of someone getting violent after smoking pot....like ever!

K&J64 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car. I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

There are male prostitutes too. Sure it can be seen as objectifying to sell your body for sex, but like I said it can also be empowering. "I say who, I say when, I say how much!"

NuggetBrain · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : My opinion is that it's treating a woman's body as body parts. (an object) Men can pick one out according to size and shape of body like they would buy a car. I don't expect a lot of agreement with my opinion. I wouldn't say it's slavery but it objectifies women and makes them less than the male.
Posted by blush64[/QUOTE]

Yeah, you wouldn't say it's slavery because it's not. Not even close. There are literally MILLIONS of things in America that objectify women. I think you're getting a little over the top with the comparisons.

cupcakesfrosting · April 2011

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[QUOTE]Sorry, but I honestly think that if having a beer or a drink didn't relax you and make you feel good, you wouldn't be drinking it. People seem to think that there's either sober or wasted and no inbetween. There's a lot of inbetween. So just because you're not getting drunk off one beer and it's not super noticable that you've been drinking, doesn't mean that you're not feeling the effects of alcohol on your body. <a href="http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html" rel='nofollow'>http://www.brad21.org/bac_charts.html</a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content" rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_alcohol_content</a>
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

I absolutely do know that one drink of alcohol can impair an individual.

I'm LEAD trained by the ABC (Alcholic Beverage Control). In California, it's required by law that if you work in an establishment that sells alcohol, either on-site (bar/restaurant) or off-site (7-11/grocery store), you have to be certified.

NatesGirl16 · April 2011

OMG ANNA! YOU ARE INSANELY AWESOME AT THIS! TY!!

avsfan33 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I have never ever heard of someone getting violent after smoking pot....like ever!
Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

Doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

allisong23 · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I have never ever heard of someone getting violent after smoking pot....like ever!
Posted by OBX2011[/QUOTE]

I haven't either, but I am guessing it could happen especially if it was laced). That being said, I have seen a ton of people who get violent after drinking. I think the same response could happen with alcohol, and is more likelyto happen with booze than pot.

NuggetBrain · April 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : I absolutely do know that one drink of alcohol can impair an individual. I'm LEAD trained by the ABC (Alcholic Beverage Control). In California, it's required by law that if you work in an establishment that sells alcohol, either on-site (bar/restaurant) or off-site (7-11/grocery store), you have to be certified.
Posted by cupcakesfrosting[/QUOTE]

I'm not talking about the level of impairment. I'm talking about the effects it has on your general feeling of well-being and relaxation.

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