I just practiced the dance style with my fiancé and his father and normally I’d be having a daughter/ father dance as well but my dad is 87 and on a walker and not steady or strong enough to dance with me so we can’t have a father daughter dance and I’m bummed. He can’t even walk me down the aisle but we took care of that already. I suggested to my future in laws as well as my groom to be that I could hug him right before I start the dance with my father in law and all three of them said that’s a good idea. I mentioned the same idea to my own mother and she didn’t like it. She yelled at me and said it would hurt my fathers feelings and that I’m not taking this very seriously. But I care about this so much! So how do I convince my mom to let me hug my dad before the official dances begin or how do I just include my dad in these first dances if he can’t dance? Thank you for your help.
Well, I could see why this could be really hurtful to replace your dad, but this isn't up to your mother. You are never going to convince her to let you do anything, because you are a grown adult and you don't need her permission.
Assuming you're really comfortable that this is not going to hurt your dad, you say "Mom, this is what we've decided to do. The topic is no longer open for discussion." Then when she brings it up again, change the subject. If she keeps going, you end the conversation. "Mom, I've told you this is not up for discussion. It's been nice chatting, but I'm going to hang up now."
I, too, can see how watching you do the father-daughter dance with someone else would be hurtful for your dad, but like PP said, that's not up to Mom.
If your dad can't dance, why don't you eliminate that dance all together? You could do your first dance with H, then his dance with his mom, and then you could walk your dad out to do a toast or something instead.
I just practiced the dance style with my fiancé and his father and normally I’d be having a daughter/ father dance as well but my dad is 87 and on a walker and not steady or strong enough to dance with me so we can’t have a father daughter dance and I’m bummed. He can’t even walk me down the aisle but we took care of that already. I suggested to my future in laws as well as my groom to be that I could hug him right before I start the dance with my father in law and all three of them said that’s a good idea. I mentioned the same idea to my own mother and she didn’t like it. She yelled at me and said it would hurt my fathers feelings and that I’m not taking this very seriously. But I care about this so much! So how do I convince my mom to let me hug my dad before the official dances begin or how do I just include my dad in these first dances if he can’t dance? Thank you for your help.
What does it mean that he can't walk you down the aisle but you took care of that already?
Can you look on YouTube for dances with someone in a walker or wheel chair? I would look to see if there are ways that you could possibly have some moment with your dad.
IMO, if you already talked about these dances with your FIL then the cat's out of the bag but I can't say I'm crazy about what seems like using the FIL as a stand in.
I have a friend who's father was in a wheelchair. Her mother walked her down the aisle, and there was a moment in the ceremony where the bride and groom honored all their parents and the bride shared a hug with her father (it made me cry, honestly). They skipped the parent dances altogether and just did the bride/groom dance. Their parents were involved with the toasts.
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You don't *need* to have parent dances. You can just omit the ones you don't want to have. That said, I would try to find a way to incorporate him more. The issue is that you seem like you're substituting for him so he's hugging you as you walk off to your FIL. A dance with your FIL sounds lovely. A dance with your FIL in place of your dad while he watches seems off.
Think of the most recent royal wedding. It was known throughout the land that Meghan Markle is estranged from her father. So when Prince Charles walked her down the aisle it was pretty clear that he was performing an honorary role while he father was not there and wasn't welcome. He didn't watch from the sidelines.
I think if you just danced with your FIL it's great. If you danced with him in place of the Father/Daughter dance while your dad looks on it came come across as inconsiderate or rude and those may not be your intentions. But your mom is probably not going to be convinced that some kind of substitution of your dad will make him or her feel OK.
What I'd do: dance with your FIL in a non spotlight fashion. Just dance with him because he'll be your father in law.
My intention is not to be rude or inconsiderate or anything you just said I’m just dancing with my FIL because he wants dance with me we aren’t substituting anyone. Please be more understanding I’ve never gotten married before and it’s going to be a very emotional day for me. I’m very fragile right now
Completely understand. My only comment is that a dance with your FFIL should be unannounced. I danced throughout my wedding and had announced dances with H and my dad. I would simply have your band or DJ get your attention but not over a microphone if there's a song you want to play for a dance with your FFIL.
My intention is not to be rude or inconsiderate or anything you just said I’m just dancing with my FIL because he wants dance with me we aren’t substituting anyone. Please be more understanding I’ve never gotten married before and it’s going to be a very emotional day for me. I’m very fragile right now
So, if your dad was able-bodied, you'd be doing a spotlight dance with both your dad and your FIL?
Look, most guests will agree that the less spotlight dances, the better. You can dance with your FIL at any other time throughout the night; no need to make everyone sit and watch without being able to dance themselves.
Hugging your dad and then doing a spotlight father-daughter type dance with someone else WILL look like he's a substitute for your dad, whether that's your intention or not.
I really think your only options here are to just eliminate the father-daughter dance altogether and either do nothing or have your dad do a toast instead, or to find a way to dance with him in a wheelchair (it's been done and done well - youtube it).
I agree with others; something about it feels off to have your Dad hug you then sit out while you dance with your FIL. Like just because he can’t do it, you’Re finding someone else who can. I’m not saying don’t dance with your FIL (I danced with mine later in the evening, it was not announced) just don’t substitute it for the father-daughter dance when your dad is right there.
Have you talked to your Dad about any of this? What does he say? You mention your Mom is upset, but what about him? I understand that he can’t dance with you, but would he want to give you a toast? How doesn’t he feel about you having your FIL stand in during the dance?
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I, too, agree that you shouldn't do a spotlight dance with your FIL with your Father present. I think a wheelchair dance would be great.
However, I will disagree with PPs that parent dances aren't done frequently. I haven't been to a wedding where there was dancing and parent dances weren't done. Maybe it is a "crowd" thing, but if there is a B&G dance there are parent dances at weddings I have attended. The only exception was when the FOB was deceased, the bride didn't have a stand-in for her Dad. Her H danced with his mother while the Bride watched. The wedding we attended this weekend had spotlight dances. The bride's father is deceased. Her stepfather danced with her (he has been in her life for a long time).
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OOOOH I was wondering what that post was referring to! LOL
I like the parent dances and it
sounds like you do too so I don’t think you need to skip them. Here is what I
would suggest you do to fully include your dad but not put the pressure of a
dance on him. First you and H do your first dance, then when H and his mom are
doing their dance you can sit and hold your dad’s hand at the edge of the dance
floor. Then your mom can dance with your H and you can dance with your FIL.
Given the number of dances this
makes I would find short songs or shortened versions of songs for the parent
dances. I know we found some songs that come in at 1min or under and they are perfect
for this type of thing, if you have DJ they can help with this too.
I would not dance with your FIL when you can't dance with your Dad. That is very hurtful. And I don't think I've ever seen in-law dances. I would find that odd.
That doesn’t sound bad, I’d rather have him in the dance floor my church has a wheelchair maybe we could do a dance using that I did a YouTube search on that particular dance and it was good so perhaps that’s a way to include him without him actually walking on the dance floor I’ll suggest that to my fiancé and my mom tonight thank you
Does your father not have his own wheelchair? If he does not, I would not just "reveal" one the night of the wedding reception. If it is not a matter of cost, your father could have other reasons he chooses not to use a wheelchair. For some older citizens, avoiding a wheelchair is a matter of pride, stubbornness, or a statement of their independence. This all needs to be discussed with your father.
How is your father walking up the aisle? If he is able to walk using the walker, I don't understand how he is unable to escort you up the aisle. How did you "take care of that"? Is your father using a wheelchair to process up the aisle?
As a secondary issue, seeing "the "s" word" in print is about as benign as you can get on the internet.
I'd say skip it... That said, one option would be you both sitting together in chairs and "dancing" while seated... The thing is - ask your Dad what he's comfortable with doing first because oddly enough there are people (My Father-in-law was one of them) who the part of the brain for dancing was still strong and steady long after walking was difficult and shaky (He had Parkinson's)... One does not need to move twirling around the dance floor for the dance, and a lot really depends on what your Dad is comfortable doing.
Re: My dad is unable to dance with me at our wedding how do I still include him?
Assuming you're really comfortable that this is not going to hurt your dad, you say "Mom, this is what we've decided to do. The topic is no longer open for discussion." Then when she brings it up again, change the subject. If she keeps going, you end the conversation. "Mom, I've told you this is not up for discussion. It's been nice chatting, but I'm going to hang up now."
If your dad can't dance, why don't you eliminate that dance all together? You could do your first dance with H, then his dance with his mom, and then you could walk your dad out to do a toast or something instead.
Can you look on YouTube for dances with someone in a walker or wheel chair? I would look to see if there are ways that you could possibly have some moment with your dad.
IMO, if you already talked about these dances with your FIL then the cat's out of the bag but I can't say I'm crazy about what seems like using the FIL as a stand in.
They skipped the parent dances altogether and just did the bride/groom dance. Their parents were involved with the toasts.
You don't *need* to have parent dances. You can just omit the ones you don't want to have. That said, I would try to find a way to incorporate him more. The issue is that you seem like you're substituting for him so he's hugging you as you walk off to your FIL. A dance with your FIL sounds lovely. A dance with your FIL in place of your dad while he watches seems off.
Think of the most recent royal wedding. It was known throughout the land that Meghan Markle is estranged from her father. So when Prince Charles walked her down the aisle it was pretty clear that he was performing an honorary role while he father was not there and wasn't welcome. He didn't watch from the sidelines.
I think if you just danced with your FIL it's great. If you danced with him in place of the Father/Daughter dance while your dad looks on it came come across as inconsiderate or rude and those may not be your intentions. But your mom is probably not going to be convinced that some kind of substitution of your dad will make him or her feel OK.
What I'd do: dance with your FIL in a non spotlight fashion. Just dance with him because he'll be your father in law.
Why are you required to have parent dances?
Look, most guests will agree that the less spotlight dances, the better. You can dance with your FIL at any other time throughout the night; no need to make everyone sit and watch without being able to dance themselves.
Hugging your dad and then doing a spotlight father-daughter type dance with someone else WILL look like he's a substitute for your dad, whether that's your intention or not.
I really think your only options here are to just eliminate the father-daughter dance altogether and either do nothing or have your dad do a toast instead, or to find a way to dance with him in a wheelchair (it's been done and done well - youtube it).
Have you talked to your Dad about any of this? What does he say? You mention your Mom is upset, but what about him? I understand that he can’t dance with you, but would he want to give you a toast? How doesn’t he feel about you having your FIL stand in during the dance?
However, I will disagree with PPs that parent dances aren't done frequently. I haven't been to a wedding where there was dancing and parent dances weren't done. Maybe it is a "crowd" thing, but if there is a B&G dance there are parent dances at weddings I have attended. The only exception was when the FOB was deceased, the bride didn't have a stand-in for her Dad. Her H danced with his mother while the Bride watched. The wedding we attended this weekend had spotlight dances. The bride's father is deceased. Her stepfather danced with her (he has been in her life for a long time).
I like the parent dances and it sounds like you do too so I don’t think you need to skip them. Here is what I would suggest you do to fully include your dad but not put the pressure of a dance on him. First you and H do your first dance, then when H and his mom are doing their dance you can sit and hold your dad’s hand at the edge of the dance floor. Then your mom can dance with your H and you can dance with your FIL.
Given the number of dances this makes I would find short songs or shortened versions of songs for the parent dances. I know we found some songs that come in at 1min or under and they are perfect for this type of thing, if you have DJ they can help with this too.