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  • JenGin74JenGin74 member
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    [QUOTE]Beatles: I agree.  My brother is a recovering heroin addict and he is far from a scumbag.  It started with pain pills for a bone disease in his knees.  He was a good kid who never even smoked a cigarette, nevermind dabble in drugs.  It spiraled fast and got out of control quickly. He got his act together but has relapsed a few times (most recently in April after 4 years of being sober).  Its a sickness.  He struggles with it everyday and it takes alot of effort to stay clean.  He works a full time job, pays his bills and rent.  He is far from some druggie loser. However,<u><em><strong> he wanted to get help and didnt blame anyone for what happened</strong></em></u>.  As long as addicts want the help and try, I dont look down on them.  I look at it like this: if it could happen to someone like him, it could happen to anyone.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    This, in my opinion, is commendable and good for him. He should be proud of himself.

    Also, I hope you didn't get the impression that I think all addicts are scumbags (You used that word, so I assume you think that's what I think).

    My opinions about addiction are very biased because of the addicts in my life.
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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    Wow, you guys actually read my novel. ;)<3 you too Mag!

    Blue, that's great that your brother has been successful in his recovery. Even relapses are opportunities to get clean again. I think you raise a good point about addicts blaming others and seeking help for themselves as well. I think it's difficult to be sympathetic to anyone who overly externalizes their problems, drug-related or not. Learning to accept responsibility is definitely key to recovering, and admittedly that makes substance abusers more "likeable," as crass as that sounds.

    Jen, I don't know if you were also addressing me in your response to the scumbag comment, but I want you to know that I didn't think you meant that either. :) And in the spirit of full disclosure, I will admit that I have my own bias on this topic. I had a 4-year relationship with an alcoholic and drug addict, and now do therapy with substance abuse clients and work in a family shelter that doubles as a residential substance abuse treatment center for the parents. I definitely get frustrated when I see the pattern of relapse and how stuck people are, so I think we all have that in common. :)



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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : This, in my opinion, is commendable and good for him. He should be proud of himself. Also, I hope you didn't get the impression that I think all addicts are scumbags (You used that word, so I assume you think that's what I think). <strong>My opinions about addiction are very biased because of the addicts in my life.</strong>
    Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]

    <div>I am the same way. I am trying now to remember the love and let go of some of the anger. The addicts in my life were not like Blue's brother, and it has been tough. I understand the anger and the "fed up" feeling, totally.  I am sorry you two have dealt with this in your lives, Jen and Blue.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : This, in my opinion, is commendable and good for him. He should be proud of himself. Also, I hope you didn't get the impression that I think all addicts are scumbags (You used that word, so I assume you think that's what I think). My opinions about addiction are very biased because of the addicts in my life.
    Posted by JenGin74[/QUOTE]

    No not at all!  It was a response to the girl who talked about homeless people and addicts.

    Believe me I am no advocate for addicts.  Its more like, this is your life so what are you going to do with it.  Everyone is human and makes bad choices once in awhile.  Sometimes 1 bad decision can cascade into a lifetime struggle.  I am the first to admit that if you decide to take drugs, you should know full well what can happen.  But I do think that sometimes you cant predict what the outcome of taking 1 extra pill because the pain is so bad will be. 

    So if you find yourself with a problem, what are you going to do about it?  If you dont want help, then I am not going to feel bad for you.  If you do want the help, I cant judge you for your struggles.  All I can do is be there for you and try to help in anyway I can.  That is how I am with my brother.  If he is trying, I can forgive all of the horrible things he did while on drugs.  But I know how toxic relationships with addicts can be, and certainly cant fault anyone for not wanting people like that in their lives.
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  • aprovencher21aprovencher21
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : This is a terrible generalization, and even if you had statistics to back this up, you are leaving out that a major link between substance abuse and homelessness is mental illness. In fact, substance abuse IS a mental health issue, and I admit I am surprised at how many caring ladies in this thread alone have stated their lack of sympathy for substance abusers. I know most who have a strong opinion on the issue have parents, exes, loved ones, etc. who have been addicts (myself included), and I don't mean to imply that those experiences aren't valid reasons to be turned off by substance abuse. But my understanding of substance abuse is that it's a maladaptive coping tool picked up by people who have not really learned to deal with their emotions. It numbs the pain of childhood abuse, trauma, a difficult upbringing, unexpected life events, etc. I'm not saying all addicts had a rough childhood, and certainly there are many people who had rough times growing up who never turned to drugs as a way to cope. But drugs are clearly very powerful on a physiological level, and the draw to use them comes from the same mechanism as the urge to overeat, engage in risky sexual behavior, seek out unhealthy relationships, or anything else that people compulsively do to make themselves feel better. Only the latter examples are more normalized and accepted, even though they cause damage as well and can kill you. Finally, the above quoted post bugs me because of the attitude that some homeless people/substance abusers are "good" while others are "bad." If it can happen to the "good" ones, then how do you think the "bad" ones got there? ANYONE can fall into debt, lose their supports, jobs, family, suffer trauma, what have you, to the extent where they'd be forced to live on the streets. Nobody sets out to spend all their money on drugs because they'd RATHER be living unsafely in a box or in a shelter. Sometimes they're born into poverty and don't have the resources (tangible and intangible) that others to do get out. I'm just saying, if you can be compassionate toward some people in this situation, then that understanding can extend toward the rest of them too. /rant
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    [QUOTE]Wow, you guys actually read my novel. ;) <3 you too Mag! Blue, that's great that your brother has been successful in his recovery. Even relapses are opportunities to get clean again. I think you raise a good point about addicts blaming others and seeking help for themselves as well. I think it's difficult to be sympathetic to anyone who overly externalizes their problems, drug-related or not. Learning to accept responsibility is definitely key to recovering, and admittedly that makes substance abusers more "likeable," as crass as that sounds.<u><em><strong> Jen, I don't know if you were also addressing me in your response to the scumbag comment, but I want you to know that I didn't think you meant that either. :) </strong></em></u>And in the spirit of full disclosure, I will admit that I have my own bias on this topic. I had a 4-year relationship with an alcoholic and drug addict, and now do therapy with substance abuse clients and work in a family shelter that doubles as a residential substance abuse treatment center for the parents. I definitely get frustrated when I see the pattern of relapse and how stuck people are, so I think we all have that in common. :)
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

    Ok, good  :)  Sometimes when I have a strong opinion about something, what I mean to say doesn't come out right.

    I have respect for people like Blue's brother because he owns it, you know? He's not all "woe is me" and blaming the world for his problems.
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    [QUOTE]Beatles: I agree.  My brother is a recovering heroin addict and he is far from a scumbag.  It started with pain pills for a bone disease in his knees.  He was a good kid who never even smoked a cigarette, nevermind dabble in drugs.  It spiraled fast and got out of control quickly. He got his act together but has relapsed a few times (most recently in April after 4 years of being sober).  Its a sickness.  He struggles with it everyday and it takes alot of effort to stay clean.  He works a full time job, pays his bills and rent.  He is far from some druggie loser. However, he wanted to get help and didnt blame anyone for what happened.  As long as addicts want the help and try, I dont look down on them.  I look at it like this: if it could happen to someone like him, it could happen to anyone.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Blue, it stories like this that make it hard for me to judge addicts who genuinely work hard to get clean.  I was on so many pain meds for my gallbladder surgery and then because I've done bone marrow I've been on more pain meds.  I'm lucky that I didn't get addicted......but it certainly could have happened. 

    Good luck to your brother. 

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : No not at all!  It was a response to the girl who talked about homeless people and addicts. Believe me I am no advocate for addicts.  Its more like, this is your life so what are you going to do with it.  Everyone is human and makes bad choices once in awhile.  Sometimes 1 bad decision can cascade into a lifetime struggle.  I am the first to admit that if you decide to take drugs, you should know full well what can happen.  But I do think that sometimes you cant predict what the outcome of taking 1 extra pill because the pain is so bad will be.  So if you find yourself with a problem, what are you going to do about it?  If you dont want help, then I am not going to feel bad for you.  If you do want the help, I cant judge you for your struggles.  All I can do is be there for you and try to help in anyway I can.  That is how I am with my brother.  If he is trying, I can forgive all of the horrible things he did while on drugs.  But I know how toxic relationships with addicts can be, and certainly cant fault anyone for not wanting people like that in their lives.
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for elaborating. You and I are eye to eye on this.
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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : No not at all!  It was a response to the girl who talked about homeless people and addicts. Believe me I am no advocate for addicts.  Its more like, this is your life so what are you going to do with it.  Everyone is human and makes bad choices once in awhile.  Sometimes 1 bad decision can cascade into a lifetime struggle.  I am the first to admit that if you decide to take drugs, you should know full well what can happen.  But I do think that sometimes you cant predict what the outcome of taking 1 extra pill because the pain is so bad will be.  So if you find yourself with a problem, what are you going to do about it?  If you dont want help, then I am not going to feel bad for you.  If you do want the help, I cant judge you for your struggles.  All I can do is be there for you and try to help in anyway I can.  That is how I am with my brother.  If he is trying, I can forgive all of the horrible things he did while on drugs.  <strong>But I know how toxic relationships with addicts can be, and certainly cant fault anyone for not wanting people like that in their lives.</strong>
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    This. I meant to say this some more. When someone you love or care about is in this situation, the relationship is going to be damaged in some way. I can understand people shutting down their support and sympathy for individuals in their own lives who have put them through the ringer with their addiction. It's often a necessary coping tool for the non-using person, in my opinion. I think the generalizing to an intolerance for all addicts is what I was reacting to in this thread. Everyone is certainly entitled to their feelings about it, but it just made me sad.



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    Jen- Know what it is?  I lack compassion.  Alot.  Maybe its because I am a realist of sorts?  Im not sure.  I dont "feel bad" for people.  I just think that we all have the power to do anything that we want, so if you are not living up to your own potential, and you are not doing anything about it, I cant pity that.  I wont.

    But if you are doing your best, and trying to be the best person you can be, even with all of the hardships and struggles, I will celebrate you for it.  My brother is far from perfect, but I cant fault him for making his best effort, even when he falls on his as$ in the process.

    I have been through alot of bad shiit, and have had terrible things happen to me, but I dont for one second feel sorry for myself. I just made a decision to change it, and did.  Everybody has their own problems, but not everybody wants to do something about it.

    Maybe that makes me harsh, or cold, but its just the way I look at things.  If that makes any sense, lol. 

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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    Blue, stop feeling sorry for yourself.

    Just kidding. ;)



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    [QUOTE]Blue, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Just kidding. ;)
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

    Haha, what can I say?  Im just a drama hoar.
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    Haha, pity party of one!

    In all seriousness though, I've noticed some of the struggles you've revealed about yourself and your life on this board, and I admire your logical stance on these issues.



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    [QUOTE]Aprov- Boob rubs anytime Jen- Know what it is?  I lack compassion.  Alot.  Maybe its because I am a realist of sorts?  Im not sure.  I dont "feel bad" for people.  I just think that we all have the power to do anything that we want, so if you are not living up to your own potential, and you are not doing anything about it, I cant pity that.  I wont. But if you are doing your best, and trying to be the best person you can be, even with all of the hardships and struggles, I will celebrate you for it.  My brother is far from perfect, but I cant fault him for making his best effort, even when he falls on his as$ in the process. I have been through alot of bad shiit, and have had terrible things happen to me, but I dont for one second feel sorry for myself. I just made a decision to change it, and did.  Everybody has their own problems, but not everybody wants to do something about it. Maybe that makes me harsh, or cold, but its just the way I look at things.  If that makes any sense, lol. 
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    Sweetie.....you don't lack compassion.  You lack a bullshit gene.  If you lacked compassion you would have told me to stop crying and get my shiit together in my thread last night.

    The more I know about you the more I seriously love you. 
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    Hey now, I hope your not gonna start feeling all sorry for me now, lol.

    People deal with things all sorts of ways.  This way works for me I guess. *shrugs*

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    [QUOTE]Aprov- Boob rubs anytime Jen- Know what it is?  I lack compassion.  Alot.  Maybe its because I am a realist of sorts?  Im not sure.  I dont "feel bad" for people.  I just think that we all have the power to do anything that we want, so if you are not living up to your own potential, and you are not doing anything about it, I cant pity that.  I wont. But if you are doing your best, and trying to be the best person you can be, even with all of the hardships and struggles, I will celebrate you for it.  My brother is far from perfect, but I cant fault him for making his best effort, even when he falls on his as$ in the process. I have been through alot of bad shiit, and have had terrible things happen to me, but I dont for one second feel sorry for myself. I just made a decision to change it, and did.  Everybody has their own problems, but not everybody wants to do something about it. Maybe that makes me harsh, or cold, but its just the way I look at things. <u><em><strong> If that makes any sense, lol. </strong></em></u>
    Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

    It makes perfect sense. I'm kind of the same way. I have plenty of compassion for people making a genuine effort (in anything, not just drugs), but I have a total lack of compassion for people that just give up without even trying, or people that just don't care at all.
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    [QUOTE]Hey now, I hope your not gonna start feeling all sorry for me now, lol. People deal with things all sorts of ways.  This way works for me I guess. *shrugs*
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    Nah no pity.  Just love.  I'm kinda in a bubbly mood tonight. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Opinions : This is a terrible generalization, and even if you had statistics to back this up, you are leaving out that a major link between substance abuse and homelessness is mental illness. In fact, substance abuse IS a mental health issue, and I admit I am surprised at how many caring ladies in this thread alone have stated their lack of sympathy for substance abusers. I know most who have a strong opinion on the issue have parents, exes, loved ones, etc. who have been addicts (myself included), and I don't mean to imply that those experiences aren't valid reasons to be turned off by substance abuse. But my understanding of substance abuse is that it's a maladaptive coping tool picked up by people who have not really learned to deal with their emotions. It numbs the pain of childhood abuse, trauma, a difficult upbringing, unexpected life events, etc. I'm not saying all addicts had a rough childhood, and certainly there are many people who had rough times growing up who never turned to drugs as a way to cope. But drugs are clearly very powerful on a physiological level, and the draw to use them comes from the same mechanism as the urge to overeat, engage in risky sexual behavior, seek out unhealthy relationships, or anything else that people compulsively do to make themselves feel better. Only the latter examples are more normalized and accepted, even though they cause damage as well and can kill you. Finally, the above quoted post bugs me because of the attitude that some homeless people/substance abusers are "good" while others are "bad." If it can happen to the "good" ones, then how do you think the "bad" ones got there? ANYONE can fall into debt, lose their supports, jobs, family, suffer trauma, what have you, to the extent where they'd be forced to live on the streets. Nobody sets out to spend all their money on drugs because they'd RATHER be living unsafely in a box or in a shelter. Sometimes they're born into poverty and don't have the resources (tangible and intangible) that others to do get out. I'm just saying, if you can be compassionate toward some people in this situation, then that understanding can extend toward the rest of them too. /rant
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

    I guess I should rephrase...I suppose my feelings come from my own experiences with addicts I've known who were overpriveledged kids looking for a way to rebel against their parents.  They did not have a troubled childhood, job loss, trauma, etc...they just fell into the party scene because their parents put "too much pressure on them to succeed".  These are people who had everything handed to them and decided to throw it all away, THEY are the ones that I truly lack genuine compassion for because they 100% made that decision to go down that road without any contributing factor other than their own self pity.

    However, I do understand that there are people who have a lot of extenuating  circumstances that lead them to substance abuse, which is the "exceptions" that I spoke of.  And while I can't say I "feel sorry" for them (only because no matter what the circumstances, starting to do drugs is still a choice), I do have sympathy for them.  I also know that once someone is an addict, that it takes a great deal of strength to not only recognize that, but to seek help and I commend people who are able to pull themselves out of that destructive path.

    Also, I'm not necessarily saying that some homeless people are "good" vs "bad", I'm just saying I know there are many different circumstances with which someone gets to be homeless.  My parents actually came close to losing our house once through a series of ill-timed job loss, illnesses, etc and I know that is the case for many who find themselves homeless.  However, I feel that when people choose a life of drugs, that a majority of them end up homeless because they will always feed their addiction first.  It doesn't always make them "bad" people, it just means they are addicts who haven't had the strength (or resources) yet to get help. 

    I hope this clarifies a little more about the somewhat broad generalizations.  If you still don't agree, or are offended, I am sorry, I'm really not trying to be rude or insensitive to your personal experiences, but this is the <span style="font-style:italic;">opinions</span> thread.
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  • J&K10910J&K10910 member
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    So, I know I'm beyond late to this, but my apparently unpopular opinion is that I'm shocked and disappointed with many of the substance abuse opinions from posters I very much like. 

    And?  I love Beatles long time.  But that's neither unpopular nor an opinion.

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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    <3 you J! Better late than never.



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    edited August 2010
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:6a01eea2-042a-4947-956c-1aee76dc6974Post:3a78f4e2-11c5-415a-a5f3-e13e8623e73d">Re: Opinions</a>:
    [QUOTE]<3 you J! Better late than never.
    Posted by beatlesgirl25[/QUOTE]

    Haha, sometimes I feel like this is the story of my life :)

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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    That's interesting. I would never peg you for the late/procrastinating type. But anyway, I'm always looking around for you when MH-related debates pop up over here, so I'm glad you showed up.



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  • J&K10910J&K10910 member
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    Why do you think we postponed our wedding? ;)  I'm not the late type, (I'm chronically early and operate as "to be early is to be on time, to be on time is to be late, and to be late is to be left behind") but procrastination is one of my biggest talents.  I also work well under pressure for the most part, so that's probably why ;)

    I wish I wasn't late for the party.  I have a completely unrelated unpop op to add, but I think the thread is long dead except for the two of us.

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    I'm here! You show me yours, I'll show you mine.
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  • beatlesgirl25beatlesgirl25
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    Well, you could always start a new thread... people love opinion threads, unpopular or otherwise. ;)

    Also, I'm envious of your timeliness.



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  • J&K10910J&K10910 member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:6a01eea2-042a-4947-956c-1aee76dc6974Post:fc691906-6cb5-4f02-b393-a7cf19c788b3">Re: Opinions</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm here! You show me yours, I'll show you mine.
    Posted by cew515[/QUOTE]

    Wait, are we talking about opinions, or genitalia?

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    We are always talking about genitalia. Always.
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