AYG

maratea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Monday? <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_really-webmd" rel='nofollow'>http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_really-webmd</a>
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]
Oh, ok. I think it was only 2 pages when I stopped reading.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Tell that to Missysue who compared atheists to Satanists : / It was already flamed in FFF, but I'ma reiterate that one.
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

I agree that's just as shitty..... but that's the point that that type of behavior isn't acceptable so neither is being disrespectful towards religious beliefs just because you do not believe in them.

maratea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Tell that to Missysue who compared atheists to Satanists : / It was already flamed in FFF, but I'ma reiterate that one.
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]
Say what now???? She deserves all the flames of hell and more. Burn, beyotch.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I didn't read all of that thread, I couldn't.  Some girls aren't educated about their menstrual cycle and just don't know.... And some one has to be the first person to start....they don't have friends to talk to about it.  I was 14 and knew, but my kid sister started the day after her 10th birthday. It was confusing, and she didn't have many peers to discuss it with.
Posted by Wrkn925[/QUOTE]

This is why I think kids should have sex ed really early on.  I hit puberty at 8 and got my period at 9.  Had my mother not talked to me about things I would have been terrified.  I also got my first period at school in the middle of French class where you had to speak only in French to ask to go to the bathroom.....made things even worse.

allisong23

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Ok... we all know you dislike MC.  I still didn't think it was funny. What's that saying about a dead horse?  Psss. It's AYG. I can call you out on it here.  
Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

You sure can say whatever you want, just like I can respond to what you say. I'm sorry if you didn't think it was funny. Others did. To each their own. And, how many times do people like Mica etc. get brought up months after they are gone? Is there a acceptable time limit that someone can be talked about after they left?

OBX2011

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[QUOTE]Oh... one more (then I'm gone for meetings the rest of the day, so fair warning if I don't come back until later.) OBX.  You were absolutelyfuckingannoying at first.  Then you realized it, calmed down, and I liked you.  Now you're swinging the other away again.  <em>Just cool it with the "!!!!!" once in awhile, please.
</em>Posted by Steph0871[/QUOTE]

Ahhh thats the passionate side of me coming out

















!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!









j/k ;)




ETA:  Ok now I see a 2nd and 3rd's to this so point taken

undyingmizery

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : This is why I think kids should have sex ed really early on.  I hit puberty at 8 and got my period at 9.  Had my mother not talked to me about things I would have been terrified.  I also got my first period at school in the middle of French class where you had to speak only in French to ask to go to the bathroom.....made things even worse.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

Sadly the parents have to sign a permission slip for sex ed. ALOT of kids get left out because the parents didn't agree.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]I don't think that religious traditions that cause unnecessary pain or suffering to any living creature are worthwhile.  If a behavior is stupid, petty or cruel, then I am going to call it stupid, petty or cruel.  It doesn't get a free pass because it's associated with a religion.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

I agree that cruelty in the name of religion isn't any more appropriate than cruelty for any other reason. But as far as religious rights goes, I know you must realize that they freedom given to people (in the US at least) to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster if they so choose is the same freedom that allows you to not believe in anything at all.

I do think some of your comments came off as, "religious people shouldn't have rights to practice religion because religion is dumb." You can obviously think that, but I wouldn't like living in a society where religion was banned any more than I'd like living in a society where it's mandated.

I'm sorry if I misinterpreted.

Celles

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I don't find slaughtering animals for religious purposes in order to eat them in a humane way to be unnecessary or cruel.  Just like I find it necessary to slaughter animals to eat them.....I've employed both a gun and bow and arrows.  I just think people should have a bit more tact and respect for religious beliefs.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

Like I said several times in that thread, I don't know that kosher or halal slaughter <em>are</em> more cruel or less humane than conventional methods. I just don't think that someone's religious traditions should exempt them from being held to the same standards to which everyone else must abide.

In other words: if a country determines that animals should be rendered unconscious before being slaughtered because it is more humane and spares the animal unecessary pain and emotional distress, then I think that law should be applied equally, without regards to its impact on specific religious practices.

On a related note: I often feel that people respond to the argument they think someone <em>should</em> be making based on broader stereotypes, rather than the argument that is actually being made. I felt this several times in the slaughter thread, and I think Blue gets it a lot too.

aprovencher21

I'm doing it wrong but.....

Holy over sharing on FB people.  I had one friend post a photo of her vaginal delivery, another posted naked photos of her 2 year old daughter, and another posted photos of her kids on the potty taking dumps.

Why is this all on facebook....and good god why is it on my news page.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I agree that cruelty in the name of religion isn't any more appropriate than cruelty for any other reason. But as far as religious rights goes, I know you must realize that they freedom given to people (in the US at least) to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster if they so choose is the same freedom that allows you to not believe in anything at all. I do think some of your comments came off as, "religious people shouldn't have rights to practice religion because religion is dumb." You can obviously think that, but I wouldn't like living in a society where religion was banned any more than I'd like living in a society where it's mandated. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Oh Mery I agree with you for once.

Don't bad mouth the Flying Spaghetti Monster! I love his meatballs.

Steph0871

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I agree that cruelty in the name of religion isn't any more appropriate than cruelty for any other reason. But as far as religious rights goes, I know you must realize that they freedom given to people (in the US at least) to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster if they so choose is the same freedom that allows you to not believe in anything at all. I do think some of your comments came off as, "religious people shouldn't have rights to practice religion because religion is dumb." <strong>You can obviously think that, but I wouldn't like living in a society where religion was banned any more than I'd like living in a society where it's mandated. I'm sorry if I misinterpreted.</strong>
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

<div>well, shtt. I agree with Mery for once. :)</div>

Blueyed228

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG :  On a related note: I often feel that people respond to the argument they think someone should be making based on broader stereotypes, rather than the argument that is actually being made. I felt this several times in the slaughter thread, and I think Blue gets it a lot too.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

I agree with this 100%.  Im often painted as the "political" girl when I feel like I have not really gotten into a heavy political debate in months.  But often times my responses are twisted into some kind of right wing motive.

So basically I smell what you are stepping in right there.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Like I said several times in that thread, I don't know that kosher or halal slaughter are more cruel or less humane than conventional methods. I just don't think that someone's religious traditions should exempt them from being held to the same standards to which everyone else must abide. In other words: if a country determines that animals should be rendered unconscious before being slaughtered because it is more humane and spares the animal unecessary pain and emotional distress, then I think that law should be applied equally, without regards to its impact on specific religious practices. On a related note: I often feel that people respond to the argument they think someone should be making based on broader stereotypes, rather than the argument that is actually being made. I felt this several times in the slaughter thread, and I think Blue gets it a lot too.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

For me it was less about the actual issue and more about how you say things regarding religion.  I get that you are an atheist and I respect your beliefs but the way you phrase your sentences about religious people often come out really rude. 

As for the slaughter issue I do think religions should be given a pass in many respects and then not in others.  The articles I read on this issue were about a certain subsect of slaughter houses using dull blades so the throat cutting was prolonged, painful and terrifying.  Obviously this should be outlawed and condemned.  But the whole stunning issue v. a quick throat cut seems less about animal rights and significantly more about punishing religious freedom.

Nebb

i dunno why alli is getting flamed - i made an mc joke too but noone got it  

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I agree with this 100%.  Im often painted as the "political" girl when I feel like I have not really gotten into a heavy political debate in months.  But often times my responses are twisted into some kind of right wing motive. So basically I smell what you are stepping in right there.
Posted by Blueyed228[/QUOTE]

I agree that this happens to Blue a lot.  I do not think that happened to you Celles in the slaughter thread. 

maratea

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : In other words: if a country determines that animals should be rendered unconscious before being slaughtered because it is more humane and spares the animal unecessary pain and emotional distress, then I think that law should be applied equally, without regards to its impact on specific religious practices.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]
I see what you're saying here and kind of agree, but I think if this were true, it would open a lot of other doors relating to religion/laws. Like if schools are making students get vaccines, then ALL students should have to get vaccines and not be exempt for religious reasons.

allisong23

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : This is why I think kids should have sex ed really early on.  I hit puberty at 8 and got my period at 9.  Had my mother not talked to me about things I would have been terrified.  I also got my first period at school in the middle of French class where you had to speak only in French to ask to go to the bathroom.....made things even worse.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

Ugh. That is so awkward. We have a student at the college that I worked at who got pregnant her senior year. She came from a very sheltered background. Mom is convinced that she got pregnant from a toilet seat because her daughter would never do "that". The crazy thing is that she actually convinced her daughter that was what happened, even though her daughter must have known that was not what happened. She was also 23 weeks along before she "knew" she was pregnant (once again, how did she not know?). The good news is that the girl is still in school working towards a degree while dad's family takes care of the baby. This gets me too - if she got pregly off a toilet seat, how did they know who the dad was? Did Dad admit to jizzing on a toilet seat? The whole story was nuts. Sweet kid, though. She still to this day knows nothing about reproduction.

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I feel like I should take a screen shot of that. As far as halal and kosher goes, my understanding is that it is a quick and humane way of slaughtering animals for meat when done correctly. 
Posted by rhonwynv[/QUOTE]

Exactly.  As someone who has slit the neck of an animal I can tell you its much more humane then stun gunning them and then killing them.

Celles

No, no.  I agree with you, Mery.  I value our right to religious freedom -- including our right to freedom from religion, if we so choose.  It's just that I very much object to legislating based on religious beliefs.  In my mind, this includes legislating around religion as well (i.e., making exceptions for certain groups of people based on their professed beliefs).

LessThanZero

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Ugh. That is so awkward. We have a student at the college that I worked at who got pregnant her senior year. She came from a very sheltered background. Mom is convinced that she got pregnant from a toilet seat because her daughter would never do "that". The crazy thing is that she actually convinced her daughter that was what happened, even though her daughter must have known that was not what happened. She was also 23 weeks along before she "knew" she was pregnant (once again, how did she not know?). The good news is that the girl is still in school working towards a degree while dad's family takes care of the baby. This gets me too - if she got pregly off a toilet seat, how did they know who the dad was? Did Dad admit to jizzing on a toilet seat? The whole story was nuts. Sweet kid, though. <strong>She still to this day knows nothing about reproduction.</strong>
Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]

<img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-surprised.gif" border="0" alt="Surprised" title="Surprised" />

Anysunrise

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Exactly.  As someone who has slit the neck of an animal I can tell you its much more humane then stun gunning them and then killing them.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

<div>
</div><div>The issue at hand in that thread wasn't whether the process itself wasn't humane, but whether it was actually being done there properly. I don't think anyone was arguing that it should be banned altogether.</div>

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Ugh. That is so awkward. We have a student at the college that I worked at who got pregnant her senior year. She came from a very sheltered background. Mom is convinced that she got pregnant from a toilet seat because her daughter would never do "that". The crazy thing is that she actually convinced her daughter that was what happened, even though her daughter must have known that was not what happened. She was also 23 weeks along before she "knew" she was pregnant (once again, how did she not know?). The good news is that the girl is still in school working towards a degree while dad's family takes care of the baby. This gets me too - if she got pregly off a toilet seat, how did they know who the dad was? Did Dad admit to jizzing on a toilet seat? The whole story was nuts. Sweet kid, though. She still to this day knows nothing about reproduction.
Posted by allisong23[/QUOTE]

Oh my.  That's just awfully naive and strange for the mother to believe that.  I couldn't imagine going home and telling my parents I got pregnant off a toilet seat.  My father would have laughed his ass off at my stupidity.

Anysunrise

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[QUOTE]No, no.  I agree with you, Mery.  I value our right to religious freedom -- including our right to freedom from religion, if we so choose.  It's just that I very much object to legislating based on religious beliefs.  In my mind, this includes legislating around religious as well (i.e., making exceptions for certain groups of people based on their professed beliefs).
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

<div>
</div><div>Agreed. Honestly, it's part of why I'm kind of uncomfortable here in the US.</div>

jcg98

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[QUOTE]Bridgewater and Watchung are kind of far from each other...definitely not in the same area.... are you sure those are the two towns?
Posted by cindyn9178[/QUOTE]

I disagree, I would say they are an easy drive apart, especially if you stay east of 287 and south of 78.

jcg98

OOPS!  No idea how that posted here, I was responding to a NNJ thread!  Sorry! 

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : The issue at hand in that thread wasn't whether the process itself wasn't humane, but whether it was actually being done there properly. I don't think anyone was arguing that it should be banned altogether.
Posted by Anysunrise[/QUOTE]

Yes I referenced this when discussing the dull blade part.

Celles

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_ayg-14?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:9edc49a4-b987-4662-b72f-1d415406f328Post:c48483f3-9c46-46d8-a336-781aeabbe2fb">Re: AYG</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : I see what you're saying here and kind of agree, but I think if this were true, it would open a lot of other doors relating to religion/laws. <strong>Like if schools are making students get vaccines, then ALL students should have to get vaccines and not be exempt for religious reasons.
</strong>Posted by maratea[/QUOTE]

But, see, I'd support this. Your right to religious freedom shouldn't expose my hypothetical future children to dangerous and even deadly viruses because you feel you should be exempted from a requirement because it is contrary to your religion.

eta: General you, obviously. :)

aprovencher21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : But, see, I'd support this. Your right to religious freedom shouldn't expose my hypothetical future children to dangerous and even deadly viruses because you feel you should be exempted from a requirement because it is contrary to your religion. eta: General you, obviously. :)
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

See I'd support the right for parents to not vaccinate their children due to religious beliefs.  I'd also support the interpretation of tort law to let me sue the crap out of the parents and the school if something happened (even minor) to my children.

I don't like big government and I really don't like when people start getting forced to do things.

allisong23

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: AYG : Oh my.  That's just awfully naive and strange for the mother to believe that.  I couldn't imagine going home and telling my parents I got pregnant off a toilet seat.  My father would have laughed his ass off at my stupidity.
Posted by aprovencher21[/QUOTE]

From what I understand, it was Mom's idea, and the girl just went along with it! It is a really sad story - Mom died a few months later, the girl's dad is out of the picture, so now the baby's dad's family cares for teh baby in a different state. I have to say how much I admire the girl for staying in school in a very tough degree program and trying to do the right thing for her baby.