Mosque in NYC

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]Yeah I'm with you hill - Is it their right?  Definitely.  But they had to have known that this would generate some backlash.
Posted by AllAboutTheBenjamin[/QUOTE]

That little girl who was the first black child to attend a newly de-segregated school and got tomatoes and rocks thrown at her head and had to be walked in by the National Guard probably knew she was going to generate some backlash by exercising her right to attend a school.  But it <em>was</em> her right. 

Those folks who decided to host sit-in's and marches and got the sh*t knocked out of them by firehoses and police dogs knew they were going to generate some backlash by exercising their rights for peaceful protests, but it <em>was</em> their right. 

Sometimes producing a backlash is a much needed thing.

AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]Amoro, have I recently told you I love you?  Because I totally do.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]
Thank you cause after the jeans thread comment I thought for sure you hated me!!

jnic0319

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[QUOTE]Things are slow so I thought I'd see what opinions are on the mosque that will be built near Ground Zero.<strong> I personally think it's in poor taste of the Muslim community</strong> there but I think that if it's private property and that where they want to build it , it is their right to do so. 
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]

I actually have to agree with you here.  It's the same as building a Japanese something or another at Pearl Harbor.  My biggest gripe is where the funding is coming from, no one can seem to get a straight answer. 

Maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue because I am a New Yorker but I think it reflects poorly on the Muslim community that they want to do this. I think they would gain a lot more respect if they respected those who lost their life on 9/11.  I'm not saying all Muslims are extremist, but as a Christian I wouldn't want to build a church in the shadow of grounds that extremists from my religion had demolished killing thousands of people...I would want to respect that community even though I personally had nothing to do with the act and did not support it.  Just my 2 cents.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : That little girl who was the first black child to attend a newly de-segregated school and got tomatoes and rocks thrown at her head and had to be walked in by the National Guard probably knew she was going to generate some backlash by exercising her right to attend a school.  But it was her right.  Those folks who decided to host sit-in's and marches and got the sh*t knocked out of them by firehoses and police dogs knew they were going to generate some backlash by exercising their rights for peaceful protests, but it was their right.  Sometimes producing a backlash is a much needed thing.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

Excellent point.

baystateapple

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : That little girl who was the first black child to attend a newly de-segregated school and got tomatoes and rocks thrown at her head and had to be walked in by the National Guard probably knew she was going to generate some backlash by exercising her right to attend a school.  But it was her right.  Those folks who decided to host sit-in's and marches and got the sh*t knocked out of them by firehoses and police dogs knew they were going to generate some backlash by exercising their rights for peaceful protests, but it was their right.  Sometimes producing a backlash is a much needed thing.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

AMEN, Nuggs.

My former boss was always getting up and spouting off about "Mr. Barack Hussein Obama."  It pissed me off every.single.time.

I don't have a problem with Muslims.  Or Republicans.  I have a BIG fucking issue with extremists -- Muslims, Christians, Republicans, Democrats, etc.

cengle

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[QUOTE]Sometimes producing a backlash is a much needed thing.
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

Amen to that.
Otherwise nothing will ever change. 

andyandhillary

Wow, Amoro.  I think you're thinking the worst of it.  I am not supporting hatred in any way.  I don't even have a personal issue with them builing it there but knowing how hurt a lot of the families of 9/11 would be (and are) I think makes it in poor taste.  I'm not saying "Boo, Muslims!" on this either.  If it hurts/offends a group of people so much then it's obviously in poor taste, IMO. 

I never, EVER said all Muslims are terrorists.  I think maybe 5% of the U.S. population thinks that (and that's 5% too much) but if someone disagrees with them it doesn't make them a hate monger. 

Also, I don't think you guys know the definition of ignorant.  Way to pull a Michael Jackson and just throw it out there willy nilly. 

I do think the media is exaggerating it but they do that with everything. 

**Big note** I did not know until StageManager said something that there was already a prayer room.  If they already have a functioning building there then it's not in poor taste.  I honestly have just heard the media freaking out about but having been clipping every news article so that's probably why I didn't know that.

NuggetBrain

Also, Ground Zero is smack in the middle of one of the biggest and busiest cities in the state.  You cannot expect it to become a static area.  Like I said in another thread, if someone wanted to build a damn Jamba Juice there nobody would think twice.  Explain to me how building another stupid trend store is better than a place that will promote learning and community among New Yorkers.

Nothing would be better than to show the folks who decided to fly two planes into it 9 years ago that we don't carry around the same kind of mindless hate towards them that they carried towards us, and that we are not going to punish an entire religion or an entire people because of the inexcusable actions of a few. 

MrsNash2be

I am torn on this is issue.  I think that not building the mosque may perpetuate the confusion between Al-Qaeda and all Muslims in general, thus creating more intolerance for Muslim Americans.  On the other hand, I can understand why people would consider the building of the mosque insensitive.  We wouldn't put a shinto shrine over the USS Arizona at Pearl Harbor, right?  I dunno, need more insight

ohwhynot

I heart cengle, manda, amoro, and nugget.  Those were some of the most salient and insightful comments I've read on the topic.  

Amoro, don't even read this:  

http://www.gainesville.com/article/20100819/ARTICLES/8191045/1118?p=all&tc=pgall&tc=ar

cengle

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[QUOTE]In Response to Mosque in NYC : I actually have to agree with you here.  It's the same as building a Japanese something or another at Pearl Harbor.  My biggest gripe is where the funding is coming from, no one can seem to get a straight answer.  Maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue because I am a New Yorker but I think it reflects poorly on the Muslim community that they want to do this. I think they would gain a lot more respect if they respected those who lost their life on 9/11.  I'm not saying all Muslims are extremist, but as a Christian I wouldn't want to build a church in the shadow of grounds that extremists from my religion had demolished killing thousands of people...I would want to respect that community even though I personally had nothing to do with the act and did not support it.  Just my 2 cents.
Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]

I MIGHT see where you were coming from if it the building was going to actually be ON Ground Zero--but it's not.  It's 2 blocks away, at a former Burlington Coat Factory. How far away do you think it should be before you think it's no longer insensitive? 

LauraT25

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[QUOTE]In Response to Mosque in NYC : I actually have to agree with you here.  It's the same as building a Japanese something or another at Pearl Harbor.  My biggest gripe is where the funding is coming from, no one can seem to get a straight answer.  Maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue because I am a New Yorker but I think it reflects poorly on the Muslim community that they want to do this. I think they would gain a lot more respect if they respected those who lost their life on 9/11.  I'm not saying all Muslims are extremist, but as a Christian I wouldn't want to build a church in the shadow of grounds that extremists from my religion had demolished killing thousands of people...I would want to respect that community even though I personally had nothing to do with the act and did not support it.  Just my 2 cents.
Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]

 I disagree, because the Muslim religion has nothing to do with the terrorist attack.  I don't know what religion Timothy McVeigh was, but let's say he was Methodist - does that mean there shouldn't be any Methodist churches near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing?  It's irrelevant.  Unfortunately, Muslims as a whole are being blamed for this, and I think that building a mosque/community center might be a struggle, but also might introduce some tolerance into the community eventually.

Stackeye210

I just feel like all this stuff:  Obama's BC, religion - the mosque.  I feel like it's people's way of being racist without having to admit to themselves that deep down they are, and that really is the root of the problem. 

So then they come up with these elaborate stories and they trickle on down through the people like a game of telephone and the facts are so twisted that nobody knows which way is up anymore.  To me, I feel like some of the view points I've heard about Obama haters are brain washed. 

Give me hard facts for why he's so much more of a f*ck up then Bush and why all of this mess he's working on is Obama's fault and not that of other presidents too - and maybe your argument will hold a bit of water with me. 

Celles

If I were a Muslim, I'd be afraid to worship there.  Seriously.  Christian extremists are no less prone to violence than Muslim extremists.  It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Christians or Muslims, and everything to do with the fact that they're -- HELLO! -- extremists.

On a not so related note: I felt all warm and fuzzy inside when President Obama included atheists in his inaugural speech.  It's actually less acceptable to be an atheist in public office than it is to be a Muslim, so the little nod to "non-believers" from a President whose own religion has been debated into the ground felt like a huge win. 

baystateapple

But Hillary, several of the victims of 9/11 were Muslim.  Do you think they would consider this in poor taste?  I can't speak for them, but I doubt it.  They know better than anyone that the terrorists were extremists and not representatives of their faith in any way.

mandapanda78

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[QUOTE] Nothing would be better than to show the folks who decided to fly two planes into it 9 years ago that we don't carry around the same kind of mindless hate towards them that they carried towards us, and that we are not going to punish an entire religion or an entire people because of the inexcusable actions of a few. 
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

<div>My heart just grew ten sizes. </div>

Celles

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Thank you cause after the jeans thread comment I thought for sure you hated me!!
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

Oh, Amoro.  It was a comment on how mind-numbingly slow things have been!  I appreciate you trying to get people talking -- even if it did lead to some serious jean envy on my part.  ;)

baystateapple

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : *deep breath*  I will not let my head explode over a completely unrealistic comparison.  I will not let my head explode over a.... Oh, hell, yes I will. Pearl Harbor was an ACT OF WAR!!!   Now, I agree that if the terrorist organization that specifically planned the attack was trying to build a worship center near Ground Zero, that would be in poor taste.  But since Japan actually WAS the force that bombed Pearl Harbor, and it was actually a MILITARY TARGET and not a domestic target, these situations are nothing alike in any way. I<strong>t would be more accurate to say that you'd be offended if China was trying to build something close to PH.  Since, they kind of look like Japanese people and come from the same side of the ocean and all.</strong>
Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

I honest-to-God snorted at this.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

Plus, wasn't there/isn't there a church right next to ground zero? From the 18th century? How is that any different?

parker624

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[QUOTE]Also, Ground Zero is smack in the middle of one of the biggest and busiest cities in the state.  You cannot expect it to become a static area.  Like I said in another thread, if someone wanted to build a damn Jamba Juice there nobody would think twice.  Explain to me how building another stupid trend store is better than a place that will promote learning and community among New Yorkers. Nothing would be better than to show the folks who decided to fly two planes into it 9 years ago that we don't carry around the same kind of mindless hate towards them that they carried towards us, and that we are not going to punish an entire religion or an entire people because of the inexcusable actions of a few. 
Posted by NuggetBrain[/QUOTE]

amen

AmoroAgain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Mosque in NYC : I actually have to agree with you here.  It's the same as building a Japanese something or another at Pearl Harbor.  My biggest gripe is where the funding is coming from, no one can seem to get a straight answer.  Maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue because I am a New Yorker but I think it reflects poorly on the Muslim community that they want to do this. I think they would gain a lot more respect if they respected those who lost their life on 9/11.  I'm not saying all Muslims are extremist, but as a Christian I wouldn't want to build a church in the shadow of grounds that extremists from my religion had demolished killing thousands of people...I would want to respect that community even though I personally had nothing to do with the act and did not support it.  Just my 2 cents.
Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]

And that 2cents is ridiculous, mongering and full of stupidity.  You know why?  There are churches in Jerusalem, where Crusaders went wailing through and destroyed everyone and everything-- they were the terrorists of their day.  How about near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing?  Or... what about the sites dedicated to Custer?  He was a terrorist, wasn't he?  Sanctioned by the government, but a homicidal maniac just the same. 

Your idea of terrorist is biased and blinded by your Bible.

staceytaylor0704

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : I can introduce you to one of those people. I call her "Mom", but you can call her Noreen. 
Posted by mandapanda78[/QUOTE]

Oh lord, your mom too? My mom drives me bonkers with all the emails she sends about that crap!

andyandhillary

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[QUOTE]I just feel like all this stuff:  Obama's BC, religion - the mosque.  I feel like it's people's way of being racist without having to admit to themselves that deep down they are, and that really is the root of the problem.  So then they come up with these elaborate stories and they trickle on down through the people like a game of telephone and the facts are so twisted that nobody knows which way is up anymore.  To me, I feel like some of the view points I've heard about Obama haters are brain washed.  Give me hard facts for why he's so much more of a f*ck up then Bush and why all of this mess he's working on is Obama's fault and not that of other presidents too - and maybe your argument will hold a bit of water with me. 
Posted by Stackeye210[/QUOTE]

I legit was confused when you said "Obama's BC".  I kept thinking "birth control?  No...but what else?...Who cares about his birth control?"   I get it now. 

waltzingmatilda13

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[QUOTE]Wow, Amoro.  I think you're thinking the worst of it.  I am not supporting hatred in any way.  I don't even have a personal issue with them builing it there but knowing how hurt a lot of the families of 9/11 would be (and are) I think makes it in poor taste.  I'm not saying "Boo, Muslims!" on this either.  If it hurts/offends a group of people so much then it's obviously in poor taste, IMO.  I never, EVER said all Muslims are terrorists.  I think maybe 5% of the U.S. population thinks that (and that's 5% too much) but if someone disagrees with them it doesn't make them a hate monger.  Also, I don't think you guys know the definition of ignorant.  Way to pull a Michael Jackson and just throw it out there willy nilly.  I do think the media is exaggerating it but they do that with everything.  **Big note** I did not know until StageManager said something that there was already a prayer room. <strong> If they already have a functioning building there then it's not in poor taste.</strong>  I honestly have just heard the media freaking out about but having been clipping every news article so that's probably why I didn't know that.
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]

So it's okay if they were there before, but now that someone completely unrelated to them has committed a horrible act they shouldn't move in? This comment is completely asinine.

AllAboutTheBenjamin

In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC:
[QUOTE]If I were a Muslim, I'd be afraid to worship there.  Seriously.  Christian extremists are no less prone to violence than Muslim extremists.  It has nothing to do with the fact that they're Christians or Muslims, and everything to do with the fact that they're -- HELLO! -- extremists . On a not so related note: I felt all warm and fuzzy inside when President Obama included atheists in his inaugural speech.  It's actually less acceptable to be an atheist in public office than it is to be a Muslim, so the little nod to "non-believers" from a President whose own religion has been debated into the ground felt like a huge win. 
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I agree with this too!  Its true that backlashes throughout American history have helped to prove points and move our society forward - but it's scary that it's always at the expense of violence.  And PSYCHO violence.  Honestly if I were a Muslim I'd be terrified to worship anywhere in this country, let alone two blocks away from Ground Zero.  And that's just sad to me.

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]In Response to Mosque in NYC : I actually have to agree with you here.  <strong>It's the same as building a Japanese something or another at Pearl Harbor.</strong>  My biggest gripe is where the funding is coming from, no one can seem to get a straight answer.  <strong>Maybe I'm more sensitive to this issue because I am a New Yorker</strong> but I think it reflects poorly on the Muslim community that they want to do this. <strong>I think they would gain a lot more respect if they respected those who lost their life on 9/11.</strong>  I'm not saying all Muslims are extremist, but as a Christian I wouldn't want to build a church in the shadow of grounds that extremists from my religion had demolished killing thousands of people...I would want to respect that community even though I personally had nothing to do with the act and did not support it.  Just my 2 cents.
Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]

Really?  REAAAAAAAAAALLY? 

A) As I recall, the Japanese-Americans paid enough for what a country that some of them didn't even come from did by being stuck in camps for a while.  There were Japanese-Americans fighting in WWII for America, but if they came home they'd still be stuck in camps because everybody thought all Japanese people were evil and wanted to kill all Americans because of what someone not even related to them did.  Sound familiar???  And it is one of the most embarassing moments in American history.  NOBODY will tell you what we did was acceptable.

B) Just because I'm black doesn't mean I'm more sensitive to racism than a white guy.  Racism affects us ALL.  I'm not going to use my race as an excuse for my own prejudices.

C) The fact that you think they don't respect the people who died on 9/11 because they want to build something that will promote outreach and community makes me want to smack you right in the face. 

kellyjellybelly

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC :  I disagree, because the Muslim religion has nothing to do with the terrorist attack.  <strong>I don't know what religion Timothy McVeigh was</strong>, but let's say he was Methodist - does that mean there shouldn't be any Methodist churches near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing?  It's irrelevant.  Unfortunately, Muslims as a whole are being blamed for this, and I think that building a mosque/community center might be a struggle, but also might introduce some tolerance into the community eventually.
Posted by LauraT25[/QUOTE]
If I'm not mistaken, McVeigh considered himself an athiest.  After the bombings he was linked by the media to the far right Christian extremists I believe.  Which is a similar to what is happening with the mosque. 

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]btw, most of the Muslims died who died on 9/11 were victims, not hijackers.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

Yup. Oh wow, there were exactly 19 guys who were Muslim who decided to wage a terrorist attack against the US. Nineteen out of about a billion of them.

jnic0319

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : <strong> I disagree, because the Muslim religion has nothing to do with the terrorist attack.</strong>  I don't know what religion Timothy McVeigh was, but let's say he was Methodist - does that mean there shouldn't be any Methodist churches near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing?  It's irrelevant.  Unfortunately, Muslims as a whole are being blamed for this, and I think that building a mosque/community center might be a struggle, but also might introduce some tolerance into the community eventually.
Posted by LauraT25[/QUOTE]


You are actually wrong on this it IS a religous war.  I'm NOT saying all Muslims agree with it, in fact I would say 99.999% do not.  But Osama was the one who claimed this was a religious act, there has been a holy war going on for decades now.  So to say that religion had nothing to do with it is ignorant, however I DO NOT believe that the people of this mosque have anything at all to do with these extremist and I do believe they have the right to build wherever the hell they want.  I just think that being in their position for the sake of public relations I wouldn't have chosen to build it that close.

cengle

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_mosque-nyc?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:76e4ffe4-5560-4d07-94a7-712b2622cde5Post:2c79f9bf-f220-4566-90ea-1bc07e0d7266">Re: Mosque in NYC</a>:
[QUOTE] Is everyone just forming their political opinions based on headlines these days?Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

*Ding ding ding*
Sadly, I think so.