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    andyandhillaryandyandhillary member
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    It was to get things moving.  I'm bored. 

    I also posted my opinion, however "weak" it is, because I hate it when people start a post asking an opinion but then don't state theirs until they see what's popular. 
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    kbmeowkbmeow
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    I heard it on the radiio Quite  a few times and Also saw it in a few people facebook status.  It may not be true but it is being reported pn the radio that way


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_mosque-nyc?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:76e4ffe4-5560-4d07-94a7-712b2622cde5Post:57daee3c-92f8-4ff8-8956-06336896abde">Re: Mosque in NYC</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : <strong>You are actually wrong on this it IS a religous war.  I'm NOT saying all Muslims agree with it, in fact I would say 99.999% do not.</strong>  But Osama was the one who claimed this was a religious act, there has been a holy war going on for decades now.  So to say that religion had nothing to do with it is ignorant, however I DO NOT believe that the people of this mosque have anything at all to do with these extremist and I do believe they have the right to build wherever the hell they want.  I just think that being in their position for the sake of public relations I wouldn't have chosen to build it that close.
    Posted by jnic0319[/QUOTE]

    You're sure as hell right, they don't agree with it. Because what Osama has done is OUTSIDE the tenets of Islam. He does not have the authority that the Quran states he needs to either issue a fatwah or call for jihad. He's justified the killing of Muslims in the 9/11 attacks and others by saying that those Muslims have fallen from the true path by living in Western society. The guy's not even truly a religious extremist. He's just full of hate, and has perverted words of faith to recruit others to his cause.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Wow. Exactly what part of your ass did you pull that information?
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    That has been reported in the media somewhere.  I have no idea if there is any truth behind that, but I have heard that before.
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    andyandhillaryandyandhillary member
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Saying that the US has a bad rep already, so this isn't going to make a huge difference is crappy.  Can you imagine how much better we would have looked if Americans (especially New Yorkers) came out and said "Hey, we understand it wasn't all Muslims.  Go ahead and build!"  Other countries could have begun to change their opinion. Of course, that wouldn't have been reported on... 
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    You hit the nail on the end.  No one would have reported it. 
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    NuggetBrainNuggetBrain member
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    [QUOTE]Could you be a bigger drama queen? You can't ever read anything as is.   Let's freak out about everything ok?  Cool. 
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    Uh.  Really?
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    AmoroAgainAmoroAgain member
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    LAME Hilary.  Lame.  It just makes you sound like an ignorant jackass.  Call me a drama queen if you want, but I'd rather be that than what you're channeling.
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    [QUOTE]I heard it on the radiio Quite  a few times and Also saw it in a few people facebook status.  It may not be true but it is being reported pn the radio that way
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    kbmeowkbmeow
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    TY.
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    [QUOTE]I heard it on the radiio Quite  a few times and Also saw it in a few people facebook status.  It may not be true but it is being reported pn the radio that way
    Posted by kbmeow[/QUOTE]

    Unless you have some type of facts to back this up, I'm going with not true. FB statuses aren't exactly credible references.
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    [QUOTE]TY.
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    Sarcasm, darlin'.
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    kbmeowkbmeow
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    Let me clarify.  I heard it on the radio a few times, then I saw it on facebook after.  SO obviously I wasn't the only one hearing it


    n Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_mosque-nyc?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:76e4ffe4-5560-4d07-94a7-712b2622cde5Post:864a45a7-6e97-4abb-ae18-f3fcbfedc015">Re: Mosque in NYC</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Facebook: where I go for all of my reliable information.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_mosque-nyc?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:76e4ffe4-5560-4d07-94a7-712b2622cde5Post:b59e0fac-da1b-444b-837c-b593618d6725">Re: Mosque in NYC</a>:
    [QUOTE]And for the record, I WILL buy the argument that from a PR standpoint, it's not the smartest move.  Just like I think that even though it was stupid of AT&T to drop Tiger Woods after the cheating thing, I understand it from a business perspective. The difference is this is NOT about business or making money.  It's about the constitution and freedom of religion and people's personal LIVES.  So, sorry if I don't think the entire Muslim-American community should be expected to live their lives and conduct their worship according to corporate business PR standards.
    Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

    Yes, yes, and yes. Constitutional rights /> PR
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Oh!  Well that makes it totally okay then!  We're already asshats to many people, so we may as well just go all the way!! WOOOOO!! What the fuuck?  I'm ashamed of you and the people you represent.  Honestly, the US was on a huge upswing around the world with the election of Obama, and while there are some people who will always think that the US is bad about some things, you know the most common questions I get? <strong> "Is everyone fat?"  "Have you ever shot a gun?" "Have you ever owned a gun?"</strong>  No one thinks of the US as the land of racism because pretty much all European nations give us a run for our money on that topic.
    Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]

    To be fair, perhaps that's because you're from Michigan. Just kidding.

    I know, when I watch BBC America and some hosts say something like, "Oh, you can't be American, you're no where near fat enough!" I get sort of embarassed. I went to the UK last year and was sort of embarassed to be representing my country as a fat chick.

    I was in Germany right before Obama visited during his presidential campaign, and everyone was really excited about it. They loved him.

    From my very limited experience and research, Europe is also quite classist. Even more so than racist. And of course, no country has a Bill of Rights like ours. Some countries have the same or similar freedoms, but not nearly all.
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    NuggetBrainNuggetBrain member
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    Screw Facebook.  If it ain't in the Onion, it ain't news yo.
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    andyandhillaryandyandhillary member
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    [QUOTE]And for the record, I WILL buy the argument that from a PR standpoint, it's not the smartest move.  Just like I think that even though it was stupid of AT&T to drop Tiger Woods after the cheating thing, I understand it from a business perspective. The difference is this is NOT about business or making money.  It's about the constitution and freedom of religion and people's personal LIVES.  So, sorry if I don't think the entire Muslim-American community should be expected to live their lives and conduct their worship according to corporate business PR standards.
    Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

    I don't think anyone in this thread disagrees with you on their right to build it.  I think the disagreement is on the PR perspective. 
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    I actually think it's a testament to how great the US is for them to be "allowed" to build that mosque. it's like, yeah, so extremist dickholes did something awful to us, but we're not going to let it change us or the freedoms we hold dear.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Mosque in NYC : why? Because crazy ass extremists did something awful 9 years ago and you think a whole community of people should suffer? people who have beliefs of peace? that's really ignorant, sorry, I can't even sugar coat that.
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    andyandhillaryandyandhillary member
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : To be fair, perhaps that's because you're from Michigan. Just kidding. I know, when I watch BBC America and some hosts say something like, "Oh, you can't be American, you're no where near fat enough!" I get sort of embarassed. I went to the UK last year and was sort of embarassed to be representing my country as a fat chick. I was in Germany right before Obama visited during his presidential campaign, and everyone was really excited about it. They loved him. From my very limited experience and research, Europe is also quite classist. Even more so than racist. And of course, no country has a Bill of Rights like ours. Some countries have the same or similar freedoms, but not nearly all.
    Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

    I'm not in Europe or have even been there but from what I've been reading people still really like Obama.  Just not Americans, you know? 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : I'm not in Europe or have even been there but from what I've been reading people still really like Obama.  Just not Americans, you know? 
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    also, there's a mosque in the pentagon. didn't see anyone going apeshiit about that.
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    [QUOTE]Let me clarify.  I heard it on the radio a few times, then I saw it on facebook after.  SO obviously I wasn't the only one hearing it n Response to Re: Mosque in NYC :
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : I don't think anyone in this thread disagrees with you on their right to build it.  <strong>I think the disagreement is on the PR perspective. </strong>
    Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]

    Not for most of the protestors. Jnic is the only one who said it was bad PR and most of us are saying we don't effing care about the PR because that's like the least important part of this equation.
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    Freedom of Religion. I really hope the mosque is beautiful and can be a place to also be a safe haven to gain knowledge about Muslim culture and faith.

    It had to be known that the location chosen would cause a stir. It should not have become a political debate though an there should not be anyone political or otherwise that should be able to stop the construction on this project.
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    [QUOTE]also, there's a mosque in the pentagon. didn't see anyone going apeshiit about that.
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    Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden?

    Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
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    [QUOTE]Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden? Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Uh, people do things "in the name of God" all the time that most Christians don't agree with.  A few extremists =/= entire religion
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    Ding ding ding. 

    What about the Christian extremists who kill abortionists.  Is that THE Christian religion? 

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    [QUOTE]Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden? Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
    Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]

    You know the neverending pasta bowl is back, right?
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