You guys said what I was trying to say a lot better. I gave a speech in a class about how we should abolish the death penalty because the expenses of keeping inmates on death row are so high.
Seriously, this whole thread is about government assistance, and making fun of what other people have gone through. You think these 16 year old children WANT to be parents? No, it is probably just because they were dumb, and did dumb kid things because they lacked the guidence of a parent. Or maybe the young girl was raped, ever thought about that? Who are you people to judge ANYONE, you aren't funny, you definitely aren't educated...you are downright rude. Maybe you should pull your heads out of your asses and realize that. This forum should not be labeled the etiquette board, that is for damn sure.
I hope when you all go to sleep at night, you feel really great about yourselves.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:c07fe496-0ae6-46f2-8bc0-1308d0065576">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]Erin, I've written lots of papers on why we should abolish the death penalty, one of the reasons being cost. I definitely see the need for something in prisons to keep the prisoners occupied, but I'm torn on what those things should be. They need to exercise, yes. I don't know that weight training is a particularly good idea. They should be allowed to read. <strong>I don't think they should be allowed to get law degrees that they use to file ridiculous lawsuits.</strong> Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]
<div>But if we didn't let them get their own degrees, they'd file the ridiculous lawsuits anyway (trust me, there were plenty of non-degree pro se litigants filing habeas petitions when I interned in federal court), or they'd waste the time of a public defender or other state- or federally-funded free attorney. Besides, it's not like they could ever actually become attorneys - no state that I know of admits currently incarcerated felons to the state bar.</div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:0046c304-f303-4af4-9ae4-0c919e689234">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]Seriously, this whole thread is about government assistance, and making fun of what other people have gone through. You think these 16 year old children WANT to be parents? No, it is probably just because they were dumb, and did dumb kid things because they lacked the guidence of a parent. Or maybe the young girl was raped, ever thought about that? Who are you people to judge ANYONE, you aren't funny, you definitely aren't educated...you are downright rude. Maybe you should pull your heads out of your asses and realize that. This forum should not be labeled the etiquette board, that is for damn sure. I hope when you all go to sleep at night, you feel really great about yourselves. Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]<div> </div><div>Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:00001b97-fbbf-4743-af78-ebd60fffea85">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]Steph, I'm well aware of that. I work in banking law, and we get lots of ridiculous pro se litigant complaints against banks. There was one guy that sued based on fees applied to an order of checks. The filing fee was higher than the fees charged on his checks. Naturally, the bank settled the suit, for the amount claimed, just to shut him up and keep from having to hire an attorney (we do a lot of litigation management in my office, and almost no litigating - our litigators are in other offices). But I do wonder if they didn't have those law degrees if they'd come up with the ideas to sue for ridiculous things. Plus, you are not guaranteed legal counsel in civil court, particularly not when you are the plaintiff. Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]<div> </div><div>I would think they'd sue regardless, with that much time on their hands. I feel like if the whole "getting a degree" thing keeps them occupied, so be it. Then again, I'm a litigator, so I have a job, in some part, because of litigation like this, so I'm probably biased. :-)
Somestimes I just get too sad thinking about the world today. I might be a bleeding heart crazy lady.
And wild girl, WTF. I'm pretty sure everyone except Robot is saying that government programs to assist the needy are absolutely essential and the people on them should NOT be judged because we cannot possibly know their life circumstances.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:cca2a593-b08c-4b99-8a96-ae49ebe277b1">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me. Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]<div> </div><div>Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. </div><div> </div><div>Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses. <div> </div><div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:cca2a593-b08c-4b99-8a96-ae49ebe277b1">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me. Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]
Woah woah woah. I was not the only person to judge people on public assistance. I just continued it. I'll admit that judging a perfect stranger on public assistance isn't nice. But isn't that what everyone is doing with all of these judges? I mean take tanning for example I go sometimes because it helps with my eczema. Steroids alone don't always work so I have to use other things to help.
I also would like to concede and say that yeah I'm wrong about selling stuff and some of the wording I used was less than poor. That being said I appreciate the people that got what I was getting at and I'm pretty disgusted with some of the people who resorted to calling me heartless and an idiot. I could go on about how I'm not either of those things but I'll avoid adding fuel to the fire.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:0c2f55bd-b5d6-4573-aa55-4a82a0eb6b65">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses. Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]
<div>Seriously, what are you talking about? We all repeatedly told Robot to stop judging people on public assistance because she doesn't know their life stories and is in no position to make judgments about them. Where on earth were any of us bashing anybody? You obviously know how to use the Quote function, quote the posts you think were "bashing" people.</div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:0c2f55bd-b5d6-4573-aa55-4a82a0eb6b65">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses. Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]
Wild. I worry a whole lot about everyone else's lives. Part of worrying about the lives of people around us is because we care. If anything this thread has shown me how awesome people are on E because so many of us don't judge people who use food stamps, or support those people trying to get back on their feet. The worry involved in my own life is so highly dependent on the whole world of worry around me.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:d3d0846b-582c-4bc8-8e13-577054d2a628">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]Hey! Who was out in left field and brought wild girl back with them? Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
<div>Actually LOL'ed at this. My FI now thinks I'm a whackjob. Thanks Fischy.</div>
And then there is that whole innocent people getting executed thing that makes the death penalty deplorable. Ya know. Only something that makes me sick to my stomach.
I love how Robot "left" and then magically came back as Wild started to post. Coincidence much?
Oh, and HI! This thread took me forever to read. What a shitshow.
Robot, you shouldn't be so judgemental. I get that it's dumb to buy flatscreen TVs and LV purses if you're on foodstamps already, but if you already have those things, why should you have to sell them just to make some extra cash? It's not like it changesh ow much money the government gives you anyway unless you say "nope, thanks goverment! I sold my TV so I don't need foodstamps this month, but I will need them again next month". Nobody would do that.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:fb2810ad-f44d-4398-ba3b-9f95cdedb383">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]And then there is that whole innocent people getting executed thing that makes the death penalty deplorable. Ya know. Only something that makes me sick to my stomach. Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]
That too. I mean, there about a million and one reasons I think the death penalty is about the most heinous thing a country as "civilized" as ours would do. Texas is a shining example.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:420c1a59-d21b-4270-bb2f-cd862d668ef3">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]PS Holy crap MUSU! One week!! YAY! Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]
Haha I know! It is kind of crazy. I'm currently on my phone waiting for my man of honor to pick me up for my bachelorette party. :)
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:558b1481-b848-4ff5-8399-a0552c1b173d">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : That too. I mean, there about a million and one reasons I think the death penalty is about the most heinous thing a country as "civilized" as ours would do. Texas is a shining example. Posted by ErinG93[/QUOTE]
It makes me sick that black men have been convicted and sentenced to death for basically no more evidence than "standing while black." racial bias is far from gone in the justice system.
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:ea73e629-90c7-4be4-a1a6-d218327c9005">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : It makes me sick that black men have been convicted and sentenced to death for basically no more evidence than "standing while black." racial bias is far from gone in the justice system. Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]
<div>MuSu, are you making fun of black men? Has this thread gone racist? Where's wildgirl to sort these things out when you need her?</div>
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:da6af81f-34bf-445d-89f8-78a791477646">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]Did anyone even say anything about teen moms or did I miss it? Posted by aleighk1[/QUOTE]
Yep something about someone commending the girls on Teen Mom's for being such good moms because they love their kids (even if the kid isn't taken care of.. all that matters is if you love them apparently)
In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_judge-34?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:091f5f26-5755-4751-b8e6-8678f0f634d2Post:187c0e86-a2a0-4687-b806-f41d3510dbca">Re: I judge..</a>: [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : MuSu, are you making fun of black men? Has this thread gone racist? Where's wildgirl to sort these things out when you need her? Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]
In Response to Re: I judge..: [QUOTE]I love how Robot "left" and then magically came back as Wild started to post. Coincidence much? Oh, and HI! This thread took me forever to read. What a shitshow. Robot, you shouldn't be so judgemental. I get that it's dumb to buy flatscreen TVs and LV purses if you're on foodstamps already, but if you already have those things, why should you have to sell them just to make some extra cash? It's not like it changesh ow much money the government gives you anyway unless you say "nope, thanks goverment! I sold my TV so I don't need foodstamps this month, but I will need them again next month". Nobody would do that. Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm not the wild girl. I just posted how I was wrong about the situation about 10 minutes ago. I get it. I continued off the post about the LV bag lady using food stamps or whatever. I don't know her situation. I guess I based it off people I know. You know the ones that get food stamps but go out and buy a new xbox game or whatever.
Everyone knows that Rosie doesn't say anything serious. She probably said she wanted to gang bang with the teen moms. I'm too lazy to go look for it, but that sounds about right.
Re: I judge..
[QUOTE]Erin, I've written lots of papers on why we should abolish the death penalty, one of the reasons being cost. I definitely see the need for something in prisons to keep the prisoners occupied, but I'm torn on what those things should be. They need to exercise, yes. I don't know that weight training is a particularly good idea. They should be allowed to read. <strong>I don't think they should be allowed to get law degrees that they use to file ridiculous lawsuits.</strong>
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]
<div>But if we didn't let them get their own degrees, they'd file the ridiculous lawsuits anyway (trust me, there were plenty of non-degree pro se litigants filing habeas petitions when I interned in federal court), or they'd waste the time of a public defender or other state- or federally-funded free attorney. Besides, it's not like they could ever actually become attorneys - no state that I know of admits currently incarcerated felons to the state bar.</div>
[QUOTE]Seriously, this whole thread is about government assistance, and making fun of what other people have gone through. You think these 16 year old children WANT to be parents? No, it is probably just because they were dumb, and did dumb kid things because they lacked the guidence of a parent. Or maybe the young girl was raped, ever thought about that? Who are you people to judge ANYONE, you aren't funny, you definitely aren't educated...you are downright rude. Maybe you should pull your heads out of your asses and realize that. This forum should not be labeled the etiquette board, that is for damn sure. I hope when you all go to sleep at night, you feel really great about yourselves.
Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me.
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[QUOTE]Steph, I'm well aware of that. I work in banking law, and we get lots of ridiculous pro se litigant complaints against banks. There was one guy that sued based on fees applied to an order of checks. The filing fee was higher than the fees charged on his checks. Naturally, the bank settled the suit, for the amount claimed, just to shut him up and keep from having to hire an attorney (we do a lot of litigation management in my office, and almost no litigating - our litigators are in other offices). But I do wonder if they didn't have those law degrees if they'd come up with the ideas to sue for ridiculous things. Plus, you are not guaranteed legal counsel in civil court, particularly not when you are the plaintiff.
Posted by Holly4212011[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>I would think they'd sue regardless, with that much time on their hands. I feel like if the whole "getting a degree" thing keeps them occupied, so be it. Then again, I'm a litigator, so I have a job, in some part, because of litigation like this, so I'm probably biased. :-)
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And wild girl, WTF. I'm pretty sure everyone except Robot is saying that government programs to assist the needy are absolutely essential and the people on them should NOT be judged because we cannot possibly know their life circumstances.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me.
Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. </div><div>
</div><div>Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Who in this thread - besides Robot, who I don't think was making fun so much as being oblivious - was making fun of teen moms or people on public assistance? The whole point of our discussion about public assistance was that we were trying to tell Robot NOT to judge people... your level of reading comprehension concerns me.
Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]
Woah woah woah. I was not the only person to judge people on public assistance. I just continued it. I'll admit that judging a perfect stranger on public assistance isn't nice. But isn't that what everyone is doing with all of these judges? I mean take tanning for example I go sometimes because it helps with my eczema. Steroids alone don't always work so I have to use other things to help.
I also would like to concede and say that yeah I'm wrong about selling stuff and some of the wording I used was less than poor. That being said I appreciate the people that got what I was getting at and I'm pretty disgusted with some of the people who resorted to calling me heartless and an idiot. I could go on about how I'm not either of those things but I'll avoid adding fuel to the fire.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses.
Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]
<div>Seriously, what are you talking about? We all repeatedly told Robot to stop judging people on public assistance because she doesn't know their life stories and is in no position to make judgments about them. Where on earth were any of us bashing anybody? You obviously know how to use the Quote function, quote the posts you think were "bashing" people.</div>
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : Hilarious. You think that you are better than Robot? You all are just as bad, Robot was just being a bit more rude than the rest of you. I wouldn't label it as a discussion either, more like a bash fest of people who haven't had a "great" life. Maybe you shouldn't be concerned with my reading comprehension either, try worrying about your own life instead of everyone elses.
Posted by xwildgirl[/QUOTE]
Really, now?
Get bent.
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[QUOTE]Hey! Who was out in left field and brought wild girl back with them?
Posted by crfische[/QUOTE]
<div>Actually LOL'ed at this. My FI now thinks I'm a whackjob. Thanks Fischy.</div>
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Do you have a wedding-related thing to contribute to this thread, wild, or are you just trying to stir up trouble? Yeah, I thought so.
Oh, and HI! This thread took me forever to read. What a shitshow.
Robot, you shouldn't be so judgemental. I get that it's dumb to buy flatscreen TVs and LV purses if you're on foodstamps already, but if you already have those things, why should you have to sell them just to make some extra cash? It's not like it changesh ow much money the government gives you anyway unless you say "nope, thanks goverment! I sold my TV so I don't need foodstamps this month, but I will need them again next month". Nobody would do that.
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[QUOTE]And then there is that whole innocent people getting executed thing that makes the death penalty deplorable. Ya know. Only something that makes me sick to my stomach.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]
That too. I mean, there about a million and one reasons I think the death penalty is about the most heinous thing a country as "civilized" as ours would do. Texas is a shining example.
[QUOTE]PS Holy crap MUSU! One week!! YAY!
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]
Haha I know! It is kind of crazy. I'm currently on my phone waiting for my man of honor to pick me up for my bachelorette party. :)
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : That too. I mean, there about a million and one reasons I think the death penalty is about the most heinous thing a country as "civilized" as ours would do. Texas is a shining example.
Posted by ErinG93[/QUOTE]
It makes me sick that black men have been convicted and sentenced to death for basically no more evidence than "standing while black." racial bias is far from gone in the justice system.
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : It makes me sick that black men have been convicted and sentenced to death for basically no more evidence than "standing while black." racial bias is far from gone in the justice system.
Posted by musicalsunlight[/QUOTE]
<div>MuSu, are you making fun of black men? Has this thread gone racist? Where's wildgirl to sort these things out when you need her?</div>
[QUOTE]Did anyone even say anything about teen moms or did I miss it?
Posted by aleighk1[/QUOTE]
Yep something about someone commending the girls on Teen Mom's for being such good moms because they love their kids (even if the kid isn't taken care of.. all that matters is if you love them apparently)
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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: I judge.. : MuSu, are you making fun of black men? Has this thread gone racist? Where's wildgirl to sort these things out when you need her?
Posted by StephBeanWed61502[/QUOTE]
Oh no youve discovered my secret!
[QUOTE]I love how Robot "left" and then magically came back as Wild started to post. Coincidence much? Oh, and HI! This thread took me forever to read. What a shitshow. Robot, you shouldn't be so judgemental. I get that it's dumb to buy flatscreen TVs and LV purses if you're on foodstamps already, but if you already have those things, why should you have to sell them just to make some extra cash? It's not like it changesh ow much money the government gives you anyway unless you say "nope, thanks goverment! I sold my TV so I don't need foodstamps this month, but I will need them again next month". Nobody would do that.
Posted by chelseamb11[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I'm not the wild girl. I just posted how I was wrong about the situation about 10 minutes ago. I get it. I continued off the post about the LV bag lady using food stamps or whatever. I don't know her situation. I guess I based it off people I know. You know the ones that get food stamps but go out and buy a new xbox game or whatever.
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