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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_wdyt-regarding-children-on-a-plane?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:d020c462-dc83-488e-b175-70670687ee4aPost:ae3dd72e-b1c8-43c5-afdd-1c9cc50d91cf">Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane</a>:
    [QUOTE]How in the world do people manage to join the Mile High club in those bathrooms?  Lol.
    Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]
    Ha, I think that all the time.  Also, you could pop the door open, right? I've seen a few that were accordian style and didn't really lock, just had an "occupied" button.
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    [QUOTE]Sucking can also help a baby pop their ears because it causes them to swallow.  Nursing, bottle feeding or letting them have  pacifier on take off/landing can help.  <--- random shitt I learned from my SIL.
    Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

    <div>But then someone might see a boob.  GROSS!</div>
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    [QUOTE]How in the world do people manage to join the Mile High club in those bathrooms?  Lol.
    Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

    Hell if I know! H's always joking for me to meet him back there, as if NO ONE would see us both in there fumbling around. I can barely turn around in there.
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    In Response to Re:WDYT regarding children on a plane:[QUOTE]I don't care if it's difficult to change your baby in the lavaratory, that is the appropriate location for dealing with feces. Not on the seats where people sit, and not on the tray tables from which people eat. If you can't handle your baby's business in the lav, keep them at home. Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]
    Exactly.
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    [QUOTE]Sucking can also help a baby pop their ears because it causes them to swallow.  Nursing, bottle feeding or letting them have  pacifier on take off/landing can help.  <--- random shitt I learned from my SIL.
    Posted by ILoveMilkDuds[/QUOTE]

    <div>Nursing?  On a plane?!  I don't want to see your boobs.  GROSS.  Planes are not the place for that.  Unless it's in the lav.  But don't take too long.  </div>
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    [QUOTE]I don't care if it's difficult to change your baby in the lavaratory, that is the appropriate location for dealing with feces. Not on the seats where people sit, and not on the tray tables from which people eat. If you can't handle your baby's business in the lav, keep them at home.
    Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]

    Pretty much this.

    I'm generally okay with well behaved kids and most small babies on planes (even the crying ones).  But changing them in inappropriate locations falls into my obnoxious adults category and I have no tolerance for that. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane : Nursing?  On a plane?!  I don't want to see your boobs.  GROSS.  Planes are not the place for that.  Unless it's in the lav.  But don't take too long.  
    Posted by marriedfilingjointly[/QUOTE]

    OMG babies shouldn't eat from boobs that's gross!
  • Hate to bring it to this but what if you were changing your baby boy in the aisle and he started peeing everywhere? That is just another reason why they should be changed in the bathroom. 

    H got peed on by some kid one flight. They peed their seat and it dripped down onto his pants and shoes (he was behind the kid). Yeah, flying soaked in pee for a few hours would suck, I would think. 
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    [QUOTE]I'm much more willing to deal with a crying infant than an obnoxious child. Infants don't know any better and they're going to cry. Parents can try to sooth them but it just might not work. It sucks but it is what it is. I have no patience for children who are allowed to act like little jerkfaces. Kicking seats, yelling at their parents, and being otherwise obnoxious - they shouldn't be on the damn plane. Just because you like to let your little brats walk all over you doesn't mean the rest of us want to deal with it. This is true in any public situation though. Planes just make everyone more of a captive audience. I'd be willing to pay a premium for lots of child-free things but that doesn't mean that I think they should be banned from things in general. An age restriction of flying certainly wouldn't work because flying can be essential. You can't exactly drive to see your family in Europe from the US. Plus, as people have said there is a lot more to beahvior than just age. 
    Posted by celticmyss[/QUOTE]

    All of this.  And in those situations I'm more annoyed with the parents than the kids.

    If you are genuinely trying, then I have a lot of sympathy.  It still sucks for all the other passengers because they are crying either way, but at least you are showing good faith of trying to remedy the situation.  But if you just sit and let a baby cry, or especially let a toddler/child act out, then that's bullshit.
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    [QUOTE]No one is making anyone take their kids on planes though, that's the parents choice. They are making everyone else miserable for their own means and that's not fair.
    Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

    No one is making you fly either though. You know that babies might be on planes. Just like drunken assholes might be on planes. Or someone wearing way too much perfume or listening to their music way too loud.

    Don't want to deal with any of that? Fly a private jet or drive yourself in a car.

    This isn't directed just at you, Nebb, but in general. Planes are now a public place. People suck for a variety of reasons, and I just expect to run into it now.
  • I've never seen a changing table in an airplane restroom.

    Most diapers can be changed quickly and cleanly (not talking about a blowout, but a normal change).   I have changed my daughter on an airplane seat (we discussed this a few years ago, Daff - I'm aware you think I'm the worst parent and most disgusting person ever).  I put a plastic pad under her, quickly took care of business, disposed of the diaper, and no one knew the difference (we were pre-boarding at the time).  Having her sit in a soiled diaper for more than two hours was not a better option.  There were no feces left behind anywhere; the airplane seat was no dirtier than before we boarded.

    I've had much worse experiences on airplanes with obnoxious, disgusting adults than with children. 
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  • Honestly I think most people are not annoyed by the kids/babies.  The major annoyance should be directed at the parents who don't handle the situation....whatever it is properly and respectfully towards the other passengers.

    Fat people, smelly people, loud talkers, rude people on cell phones/laptops/ipads, drunk people, people off their meds, people freaked out by flying....I don't want to fly with any of them but what are you going to do??
  • I should say- I totally agree with Daff on the changing thing. Not in the aisle and not on a seat (unless you've got a changing pad or something.)

    Although- I've seen people puke on planes far more often than I've seen someone change a dirty diaper, so there's that.
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    [QUOTE]Hate to bring it to this but what if you were changing your baby boy in the aisle and he started peeing everywhere? That is just another reason why they should be changed in the bathroom.  Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

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    But seriously, changing diapers in the aisle of a plane is just friggin' nasty. Even if there wasn't a changing table in the lavatory, I'd still change my child's diaper in there by laying down one of those plastic changing pads you can buy with the diaper bag supplies, either on the closed lid of the toilet seat or the floor of the lavatory.
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    [QUOTE]No one is making anyone take their kids on planes though, that's the parents choice. They are making everyone else miserable for their own means and that's not fair.
    Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

    Darnit!  I wish I used this line on the mom flying solo cross country with a baby and toddler for her MOTHER's FUNERAL
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    [QUOTE]No one is making anyone take their kids on planes though, that's the parents choice. They are making everyone else miserable for their own means and that's not fair.
    Posted by Nebb[/QUOTE]

    Darnit!  I wish I used this line on the mom flying solo cross country with a baby and toddler for her MOTHER's FUNERAL <---my sister
  • As you guys know my mom is from California so yeah, she traveled with us back and forth a hell of a lot.  I can't imagine us not going just because we were babies.  That would have been terrible.  Or my parents staying away from Christmas celebrations because their kids were too little to fly?  That would have sucked.

    I'm not going to not fly just because I have a baby.  If my kid needs his diaper changed though, I'm changing it.  I'll ask flight attendants where would be the most appropriate place, but yeah.  I don't want to sit with a kid in a shitty diaper and I don't think anyone else on board would want to either.
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  • I think it's pretty gross that there aren't changing tables on all planes.  I don't know for sure, but I really can't see the crew disinfecting seats and tray tables all that well in between flights, and if people are forced to change their kids on a seat, that's just a recipe for disaster.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane : But seriously, changing diapers in the aisle of a plane is just friggin' nasty. Even if there wasn't a changing table in the lavatory, I'd still change my child's diaper in there by laying down one of those plastic changing pads you can buy with the diaper bag supplies, either on the closed lid of the toilet seat or t<strong>he floor of the lavatory.</strong>
    Posted by mehgank[/QUOTE]

    I don't know what planes you fly on, but I barely have enough room for my two feet on the floor of a airplane bathroom ;)
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    [QUOTE] I have changed my daughter on an airplane seat (we discussed this a few years ago, Daff - I'm aware you think I'm the worst parent and most disgusting person ever). 
    Posted by LesPaul[/QUOTE]
    I don't recall if I said something so hyperbolic then (I woudn't now), and I don't really know anything about your parenting, but that's a really foul and unacceptable thing to do.
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    [QUOTE]I have a question for the moms (well, anyone). If you're going on vacation, why do you want to bring your infants with you?  Not kids, I get kids, beach, vacation, blah.  But isn't it a PIA to drag the baby, diaper bag, car seat, etc??  And if you want a night out with just your H, then what do you do?  To me, it's more of an 'I don't get it.'  
    Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

    Re Vacations, when kids were babies, we met up with the rest of the family and rented a house together.  Everyone helped each other out, including a night out with just the H !!  Oh happy day, I think that's how number 5 came along!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane : I don't know what planes you fly on, but I barely have enough room for my two feet on the floor of a airplane bathroom ;)
    Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]

    Yes, but you wouldn't need to close the door if you were using the floor. Just kneel near the doorway. It works in my head, haha.

    I know I'm not a mother, so what I have to say basically carries no weight whatsoever, so there is that.
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    edited July 2012
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    [QUOTE]I think it's pretty gross that there aren't changing tables on all planes.  I don't know for sure, but I really can't see the crew disinfecting seats and tray tables all that well in between flights, and if people are forced to change their kids on a seat, that's just a recipe for disaster.
    Posted by ZombieNates[/QUOTE]

    I promise that poopy diapers are the least of your concern on those airplane seats. ;)

    JCB- I'm obviously not a mom yet, but I have every intention of flying with the baby if needed.  Why not? I'm not having a kid so I can ditch her for a week if we go on vacation.  Going out for a date night is totally different than traveling for a week.  If the mom is breastfeeding, it's basically impossible.  So, we just shouldn't travel at all for, what, 4-5 years? (ETA: awkward wording- I'm not planning on breastfeeding for 4-5 years! ha I just meant... if there are a few other people that might be annoyed by the presence of a infant/toddler, am I not supposed to go on a plane for 5 years just in case? eff that.)

    And honestly? I think it's easier to travel with infants than toddlers anyway.
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    [QUOTE]I have a question for the moms (well, anyone). If you're going on vacation, why do you want to bring your infants with you?  Not kids, I get kids, beach, vacation, blah.  But isn't it a PIA to drag the baby, diaper bag, car seat, etc??  And if you want a night out with just your H, then what do you do?  To me, it's more of an 'I don't get it.'  
    Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

    Well a lot of the traveling I did as a child was for family vacations, so yeah, all the kids came, even the baby ones.  When my parents wanted a trip to themselves they took one and left us with grandparents.

    I don't really mind babies on planes, but I do scratch my head when I see babies at theme parks.  Why the eff anyone would stroller around their six month old baby at Disneyland, Sea World or Valleyfair is beyond me, lol.
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  • I haven't flown since K was born, but the last time I did I was pregnant and I checked out the restroom so I would know for the future. There was no changing table on the flight I was on (Boston - Chicago). Flying would not be our first choice for travel, but we would do it if we had to.

    FWIW, I could change his diaper with him sitting in my lap, and I could do it so fast most people might not even notice. His wet diaper would go in a sealed wet bag, so you could not smell it either. The odds are it wouldn't be a poopy diaper anyway.

    As for noise, if the baby is fussy, trust me, the parents are probably more upset about it than you are. Trust me, no wants to be "that parent".
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane :  I know I'm not a mother, so what I have to say basically carries no weight whatsoever, so there is that.
    Posted by mehgank[/QUOTE]
    I don't agree with this. Your opinion is just as valid as anyone else's.
  • Airplane seats aren't generally clean, and it's not because of babies.  People are gross, and I'd much rather they had a disposable cover on them.

    jcb - yes, it's a pain to travel with children of all ages.  I only flew with mine when they were small if we were going to visit family.  I also bought them a ticket so they could sit in their carseats and be more comfortable - sitting with an infant or toddler on your lap for any period of time in a confined space is not pleasant.  I didn't have much real vacation time until they were older and more self-sufficient.  I have used hotel-recommended child care (on site) for an adults-only night out. 

    We also didn't go to places like Disneyland until they were old enough to remember it - I have a big 'I don't get it' for dragging an infant around an amusement park.
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    Here's my issue though, most parents seem to think that because they have a kid, their spawn takes presidence over everyone else. I don't get on a plane and scream at the top of my lungs cause I'm hungry or have to take a dump, so me being there isn't negatively affecting anyone elses experience. Babies negatively affect everyones experience with that, why should everyone have to deal with that just because "you" feel the need to take your kid everywhere. It applies to all of the places I mentioned earlier. I just don't agree with this sense of entitlement that having a kid gives people, cause it usually doesn't go along with any thoughtfulness towards anyone that's being affected.
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    [QUOTE]I have a question for the moms (well, anyone). If you're going on vacation, why do you want to bring your infants with you?  Not kids, I get kids, beach, vacation, blah.  But isn't it a PIA to drag the baby, diaper bag, car seat, etc??  And if you want a night out with just your H, then what do you do?  To me, it's more of an 'I don't get it.'  
    Posted by jcbsjr[/QUOTE]

    <div>Depending on the age, babies are very prone to separation anxiety.  DH and I are going on vacay in September and there is no way I would leave J behind.  She would be miserable.  Babies want to be with their mother.  It's biological.  We do date nights and leave baby with a sitter, but not overnight.  </div><div>
    </div><div>If a mother is breastfeeding, that also makes overnight travel without the baby hard.  You can either bring the baby and all her stuff, or you can bring the pump and accessories and try to figure out how to sterilize it in airport and hotel bathrooms.  And let's hope it's not a long flight, because pumping on a plane would SUCK.  Either pump in your seat next to people, or take up the bathroom for 20 minutes?  Neither solution is going to make you popular with the other passengers.  I'd take a baby over that any day.</div><div>
    </div><div>A lot of things didn't make sense to me either, so I get where you're coming from.  But as a mom, missing out on stuff because of the baby sucks.  I'm not going to just  not go on vacation or go out in public or get on airplanes because I have a baby and someone might hear her cry.  And as for older children, they'll never learn how to behave appropriately in social situations if they are not exposed to them.  </div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: WDYT regarding children on a plane : I know! They should totally have a scale at the check-in and make you weigh yourself when they weigh your luggage. 
    Posted by djhar[/QUOTE]


    eeeeeek
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