As I have just gotten engaged and started planning myself I might not be the most help. But the best advice I have gotten so far is to ignore everyone, this is your wedding you make the rules. So take what everyone said listen, then ball it all up and throw it out the window! If you want it in May go for it, if you want to help you mom plan that's awesome, and if you get gifts sweet if not that's cool to. And as to everyone getting on your case I thought they were being rude as well and would have been upset by there answers to. Good luck with your wedding.
Yup, it is so smart to completely dismiss advice given on here by other people who have actually gone through the process, made mistakes, and the realized the error of their ways. Just like it would be smart to have a major surgery be done by a first year med student. But hey, if you want to make an ass out of yourself and fuck up relationships in the process then, by all means, do as you please.
@alh728 in regards to when to hold your engagement to be honest we are in the 21st century and everything has changed. I have been engaged since July 2013 and we have agreed to be married on August 2015. We are hosting our OWN engagement party at my parents house. Like I said, times have changed and its our wedding. Who says we have to stick to everything in a traditional matter?? Anyways, as long as my fiance and me agree to it, I'm honestly fine with it. Our engagement party will be this July 2014- to me it doesn't really matter how long before the wedding. However, depending how are you financially and what are your plans once after getting married then decide. As for the gifts, we aren't expecting any because the reason we are doing the party in the first place is to have both of our family get to know one another. As for the people whom we are inviting to the wedding will depend on who actually made the effort to go to the engagement. We will also be hosting the rehearsal dinner 1 month before the wedding date (at my fiances parents house)- to give thanks to everyone who is part of the wedding. One day before is to much stress all at once, so therefore my fiance and I have decided to do it our own way its your wedding and you are allowed to do as you please!!
Girl, times are a changin' Don't apologize to anyone for being frustrated with the responses. If you want to throw your own engagement party then you go right ahead. If you want to assist in planning your engagement party that someone else is throwing for you the you go right ahead. It is NOT tacky! This is, hopefully, a once in a lifetime experience for you and your fiancé so why shouldn't it be perfect. I'm not saying turn into a Bridezilla but you can still appreciate your mom for throwing the party AND have input in it as well. I've been to several engagement parties where gifts and well wishes we're given in a monetary form to help you along with the wedding. There is nothing wrong with planning your own, assisting in the planning or receiving gifts from your guests. good luck to you and your fiancé! I hope your engagement party and your wedding is everything you dreamed of. As for the timing, if you're going to have a long engagement then try to have the party somewhere in the middle. You don't want to have it too far in advance before the wedding but you also don't want it too close. Picture your perfect party and go for that season. Just like the wedding, if all of the important people you want to share the day with can attend then the date is perfect be it a year after the engagement or a month.
I can't believe how rude people are being to this poster, then even ruder when she got defensive! Bullying someone by calling them tacky is rude. Its stressful enough to plan a wedding and she is not sure where to turn. My future mother in law threw my fiance and I an engagement party about 3 months after we got engaged and 14 months prior to our wedding date. It just happened to work out because we had family visiting from far away but otherwise we probably would not have even had one. My sister and her husband did not have an engagement party, so its not a requirement! Things vary for everybody. There are certain tried and true etiquette rules, but things change all the time with how things go. If planning is becoming difficult for your mom, don't worry about it! Good luck and congrats on your engagement!
Please google the definition of bullying before you go throwing that word around.
This is YOUR engagement and YOUR wedding. I think what I learn the most after reading up on the wedding blogs and after seeing the ridiculous behavior of all you bridezillas, cookie pusher, Maggie0829, AntiBride - out there...be like the honey badger....don't give a shit about the rules. It's your wedding. Etiquette is over rated. Be polite but if you don't have money, or if you friends don't have money to help host it....host your own party. This is a time for you to be excited, share you joy and the love you have for you future husband with your friends and family. They should be honored to be your guests. Have a pot luck style party. Everyone brings a favorite food and beverage. Screw all you brides out there for picking on this girl. You have no idea what she's going through. I have no idea what you're going through either...who knows maybe you're all on a permanent period with raging cramps and acne. You all seem so wrapped up in the right favor, right time, right person to throw the right party. HOLY SHIT! Why are you getting married? I'm getting married because I love my future husband...I'm not going to let the parties leading up to the wedding control my life though. Alh728 - Sweetie what do YOU want to do? Do what's right for you and your husband, and drown out all the others who are telling you it's tacky to throw your own parties...shit I'm going to throw my own damn engagement party just because I CAN!
I just threw up in my mouth. Oh, the sense of entitlement.
So Lynn I take it you don't like my opinion? Well I guess you'd prefer to bully a gal? Seems like you missed my POINT. There's not a shred of entitlement here...only the fact that she (Alh728) doesn't deserve to be called tacky and she and the rest of us ARE in fact entitled! It's their freaking wedding day! I'm sure you also felt the same way when you got married. Don't act like you didn't.
You are so right! People really need to learn to just shut their mouths.
I just got engaged in November 2013 also and my fiance and I are planning for our engagement party to be in March 2014, because it will be very close friends and we are going to make our bridal party announcement then. We are planning our wedding for Spring (April/May) 2015. It is really up to you and what you think is best and what is right for you! No matter what you have to remember it is your day! Congrats and good luck with the planning!
I think May sounds like a good time for your engagement party. Not too far from you're engagement. As for throwing your own party....I say go for it!! That's what i'm doing with only a little help from my parents! I got engaged on 11/9/13 and am throwing my party 3/8/14. Don't let these cranky people stop you. Also, where I'm from, engagement parties are still gift giving parties with some stuff from your registry or couples date night ideas. Good luck and Congratulations!!
Sorry, I didn't feel entitled at all just because I was getting married. It isn't like getting married is all that unheard of. What I was worried about was my guests and making sure that they enjoyed the day as much as H and myself. The wedding day isn't all about you, it is about you, your families and your close friends. I think a lot of people forget that.
Alh278, don't apologize. Don't know what's wrong with all these girls on here, but this site is meant to be helpful.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Alh278, don't apologize. Don't know what's wrong with all these girls on here, but this site is meant to be helpful.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Congrats and good luck!!!!
Yes, you host your own wedding, and then you host a reception to thank guests for attending the ceremony. The reception is not supposed to honor you, it honors the guest.
And throwing your own bridal shower would be beyond tacky. Come on, even etiquette clueless people know that one.
Maggie - so you never felt like you were entitled not in the slightest little bit? I call your bluff. Your picture says it all. You're walking in front as if showcased while everyone else is behind you...your maid of honor is doing the right thing and aiding you in every way - including holding your flowers. This picture is quite entitled. It's what every bride deserves...you look lovely in it and seeing how it was your wedding day you had it coming to you. It's part of the reward of planning the whole event. No one would've argued that you and your husband were deserving of that day and all the spoils.
You have got to be fucking kidding me. So since my sister and I just so happened to be the first ones walking outside for pictures and the photog just so happened to take our picture (which is her job) that makes me entitled? Oh honey, not at all. I could have given two shits if I was in front or in the middle or in the back. And my sister holding up my train was her decision. I would have gladly picked it up myself which I did numerous times through the day. And no I never felt entitled once. I was flattered that my sister threw me a bridal shower because I knew how busy she was and that she lived hundreds of miles away. I accepted the shower with tremendous thanks, but never once did I expect one or felt entitled to one. My parents paid for the wedding which was extremely generous but again I did not feel entitled to their money, but was honored that they wanted to spend it on a wedding because they easily could have not spent a dime. H and I went on a fabulous honeymoon that we paid for ourselves. If I felt entitled to one then I would have demanded that my friends and family pay for it a trip to Maui, where we had originally wanted to go, but I didn't because I am not entitled to one just was lucky enough to be able to afford a less expensive location in Key West.
In fact what I did feel was lucky. Lucky to have great parents who were generous. Lucky to have a wonderful sister who wanted to throw me a party. Lucky to have friends and family who took time out of their day to come to our wedding. Lucky to have a great H who worked overtime to contribute to our HM fund. No where throughout my planning process did I ever feel entitled to anything. And if I had ever felt that way I would have wanted to slap me across my face and tell me how much of a brat I was being.
Alh278, don't apologize. Don't know what's wrong with all these girls on here, but this site is meant to be helpful.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Congrats and good luck!!!!
Yes, you host your own wedding, and then you host a reception to thank guests for attending the ceremony. The reception is not supposed to honor you, it honors the guest.
And throwing your own bridal shower would be beyond tacky. Come on, even etiquette clueless people know that one.
You know what's tacky - PDKH? Telling someone you know nothing about that they are tacky. She may not have some of the support group that can help with throwing her bridal shower. Sad...you so sad. And I respectfully disagree. The reception honors the parents, guest and bride and groom.
If someone doesn't offer to throw a shower then you just don't get one. That's the breaks in life.
My family and my fiance's family have never really met. We are throwing an engagement-like party so the bridal party can meet and greet our families and for the two families to meet and have some fun. we are not expecting gifts, and just hope for it to be a nice get together.
My family and my fiance's family have never really met. We are throwing an engagement-like party so the bridal party can meet and greet our families and for the two families to meet and have some fun. we are not expecting gifts, and just hope for it to be a nice get together.
Throwing a party to get everyone together is fine. Just don't call it an engagement party because then that will take the whole "this party is for me!" out of it. In fact you don't have to call it anything.
Persanely i think that you should host ir party if u want to. There are no rules against it. I got engaged early december and in march ill be hosting an engagement brunch at our housse in the mountains. I think its a great idea yo do it so both families get aquainted.
Maggie - so you never felt like you were entitled not in the slightest little bit? I call your bluff. Your picture says it all. You're walking in front as if showcased while everyone else is behind you...your maid of honor is doing the right thing and aiding you in every way - including holding your flowers. This picture is quite entitled. It's what every bride deserves...you look lovely in it and seeing how it was your wedding day you had it coming to you. It's part of the reward of planning the whole event. No one would've argued that you and your husband were deserving of that day and all the spoils.
You have got to be fucking kidding me. So since my sister and I just so happened to be the first ones walking outside for pictures and the photog just so happened to take our picture (which is her job) that makes me entitled? Oh honey, not at all. I could have given two shits if I was in front or in the middle or in the back. And my sister holding up my train was her decision. I would have gladly picked it up myself which I did numerous times through the day. And no I never felt entitled once. I was flattered that my sister threw me a bridal shower because I knew how busy she was and that she lived hundreds of miles away. I accepted the shower with tremendous thanks, but never once did I expect one or felt entitled to one. My parents paid for the wedding which was extremely generous but again I did not feel entitled to their money, but was honored that they wanted to spend it on a wedding because they easily could have not spent a dime. H and I went on a fabulous honeymoon that we paid for ourselves. If I felt entitled to one then I would have demanded that my friends and family pay for it a trip to Maui, where we had originally wanted to go, but I didn't because I am not entitled to one just was lucky enough to be able to afford a less expensive location in Key West.
In fact what I did feel was lucky. Lucky to have great parents who were generous. Lucky to have a wonderful sister who wanted to throw me a party. Lucky to have friends and family who took time out of their day to come to our wedding. Lucky to have a great H who worked overtime to contribute to our HM fund. No where throughout my planning process did I ever feel entitled to anything. And if I had ever felt that way I would have wanted to slap me across my face and tell me how much of a brat I was being.
You're very easy to piss off. I think you missed my point. The point is that it's an exciting day and every bride and groom, MOB, MOG, FOB, FOG, brother, sister, daughter, son and really anyone involved directly has the right to want and have the best time of their lives. You're so freaking defensive. And by the way your picture is lovely and you do look wonderful. I never said you were entitled because of the picture, I ASKED you if never once felt a sense of "hey I deserve to have the extra expensive wedding do dad because I earned it, because it's my day"...every bride feels like that at one point or another. I did call your bluff because you can't say that you never once thought the wedding should be about you. And feeling entitled (if you deserve it) is perfectly allowed. You seem very angry.
I'm sorry but you did say that I was entitled. You said that the picture is very entitled and that you call my bluff when I said I never felt entitled.
And sorry again you are wrong, I never once though that I deserve anything. I think you are confusing wanting to have a fun day and feeling entitled to a fun day. No one is entitled to anything. Ever.
And I am not angry nor am I easily pissed off. But I think it is crap that people come on here thinking that their family and friends owe them something just because they are getting married. I do hope that all couple have fabulous wedding days but to think you are entitled to something makes you pretty horrible.
Persanely i think that you should host ir party if u want to. There are no rules against it. I got engaged early december and in march ill be hosting an engagement brunch at our housse in the mountains. I think its a great idea yo do it so both families get aquainted. Good luck with everything and have fun.
But, in fact, there are rules against it. It is rude and self- important to throw a party in your own honor.
I really don't see how this is such a hard concept to grasp. If no one offers to host an engagement party, you dont get one. Its not the end of the world. Same goes with a bridal shower.
Alh278, don't apologize. Don't know what's wrong with all these girls on here, but this site is meant to be helpful.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Congrats and good luck!!!!
Yes, you host your own wedding, and then you host a reception to thank guests for attending the ceremony. The reception is not supposed to honor you, it honors the guest.
And throwing your own bridal shower would be beyond tacky. Come on, even etiquette clueless people know that one.
You know what's tacky - PDKH? Telling someone you know nothing about that their ideas are tacky. She may not have some of the support group that can help with throwing her bridal shower. Sad...you so sad. And I respectfully disagree. The reception honors the parents, guest and bride and groom.
Your attitude is disgusting.
OP's ideas were rude. Some of the posters on this board are here to assist people like OP avoid embarrassing herself. If you are truly self centered enough to think the reception is to honor the couple and their parents, you are welcome to make a fool of yourself behaving that way.
In general, most couples would rather not make an ass of themselves at their wedding. If you are dead set on it, that's your business, but encouraging others to do the same is not going to make you look better.
Encouraging OP to make a fool of herself is not good advice. It's really mean.
All- Her mother is NOT hosting the party, she lied about that. She posted the same question over on WW. And she is soley wanting the party to get gifts to finance her wedding.
OP-please let the engagement party go. It is rude to host your own, and many of the people over on WW are sending you down the dark road of tackiness.
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
I can't believe how rude people are being to this poster, then even ruder when she got defensive! Bullying someone by calling them tacky is rude. Its stressful enough to plan a wedding and she is not sure where to turn. My future mother in law threw my fiance and I an engagement party about 3 months after we got engaged and 14 months prior to our wedding date. It just happened to work out because we had family visiting from far away but otherwise we probably would not have even had one. My sister and her husband did not have an engagement party, so its not a requirement! Things vary for everybody. There are certain tried and true etiquette rules, but things change all the time with how things go. If planning is becoming difficult for your mom, don't worry about it! Good luck and congrats on your engagement!
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
You're a horrible person for saying the things you said to that girl. You've told her that her way of doing this whole party/engagement thing and bridal showers are tacking. Really I'm sick of seeing your posts. You're pissing off people. And YES every bride deserves a wonderful wedding...that's what entitled is. So you're just having a bad day with semantics. You strike me as someone very hung up on the way things SHOULD be not the way things COULD be. She can throw her own party, shit she can buy her own gifts, wrap them up and give them to herself if she wants to. She should'n't have to get advice from some girl who's been married for four years and still posts on this site because she believes she knows best. That's what the nest if for. If you continue to respond to my posts with your wretched tone - I shall obviously respond back. Your language is atrocious by the way. You love the 'F' word.
No, a bride doesn't DESERVE anything. She is either able to pay for things herself or she is graciously given things by friends or family. Does she deserve a fancy car and house too? Or deserve 300 wedding gifts?
Alh278, don't apologize. Don't know what's wrong with all these girls on here, but this site is meant to be helpful.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Congrats and good luck!!!!
Yes, you host your own wedding, and then you host a reception to thank guests for attending the ceremony. The reception is not supposed to honor you, it honors the guest.
And throwing your own bridal shower would be beyond tacky. Come on, even etiquette clueless people know that one.
You know what's tacky - PDKH? Telling someone you know nothing about that their ideas are tacky. She may not have some of the support group that can help with throwing her bridal shower. Sad...you so sad. And I respectfully disagree. The reception honors the parents, guest and bride and groom.
Your attitude is disgusting.
OP's ideas were rude. Some of the posters on this board are here to assist people like OP avoid embarrassing herself. If you are truly self centered enough to think the reception is to honor the couple and their parents, you are welcome to make a fool of yourself behaving that way.
In general, most couples would rather not make an ass of themselves at their wedding. If you are dead set on it, that's your business, but encouraging others to do the same is not going to make you look better.
Encouraging OP to make a fool of herself is not good advice. It's really mean.
MyNameIsNot - rather confused how you're getting "making an ass out of themselves" when someone is excited to have a reception honor their parents, guest and themselves. Could you elaborate? I may have missed part of the comments. I just don't translate that into "making an ass out of themselves".
Saying, "Hey come over to celebrate meeeeeeeeeeeee!!! And bring me some good gifts while you're at it, or you can't come!!!!!" is very much making an ass of yourself.
I was reading the first few posts and was thrown aback by how judgmental some people are. geez. I couldn't read any more of the posts but wanted to share my story.
In defense of the original poster, MY FIANCE AND I GOT ENGAGED 12/13/13 AND ARE PLANNING AN OCT 2015 WEDDING. I PLAN ON ASSISTING MY PARENTS HOST AN ENGAGEMENT PARTY FOR US AT THEIR LOVELY HOME SET FOR THIS SUMMER 2014. BEING THAT I AM SOMEWHAT PICKY AND PARTICULAR, I WILL BE DOING MOST, IF NOT ALL, OF THE PLANNING FOR OUR ENGAGEMENT PARTY.
I am not ashamed or embarrassed or whatever some people may think I should feel for planning an entire party celebrating my engagement. Times are continually changing and people should be openminded to the many possibilities. Don't get stuck in a judgmental mindset if you hear someone want to approach their engagement/wedding planning completely different than what "should be" done or what "has always been" done. It is your life. It is their life. Do what you want with your life and don't judge others for doing it differently!
So my fiance' is in the marine core and we are having a long engagement 3 years to be exact. I am having an engagement party 1 year after we got engaged because of our situation and also because he's usually gone, I want this party for our families to get to know one another before the actual wedding. WE want to host our engagement party for that reason, I see nothing wrong in that and you shouldn't either. Sure my mother is also helping me financially but it is OUR choice as a couple to have an engagement party so we can celebrate with the people we love. My mother already has to host a shower, rehearsal dinner and pay for part of the wedding I do not want another burden of "hosting" another party for me. If you want to host your own party there is nothing wrong with that its not tacky or rude whatsoever, it should be celebrated. And as for the engagement party timeline, I just think that if you put it too close to the bridal shower and wedding family members will feel obliged to give all these gifts, space them out and help everyone out. Please don't listen to all these other women but then again I am from NY and we may do things differently. Hope this helped Enjoy the planning
Alh728, for what it is worth, I understand where you are coming from, both in your white lie and after. Being engaged is a big deal and there are a lot of unknowns, so having a post where it feels like people are calling you tacky (even if they aren't, but it feels that way) can be a bit of a straw on the already overloaded camel, so to speak. I didn't know until this post that an engagement party was something someone else had to throw for you - I thought it was just a party for you and loved ones to celebrate your engagement. And perhaps, like me, the OP has friends who just don't KNOW they're supposed to throw one for her? If I had known that was what you were "supposed" to do, I'd have thrown them for a few of my now-married friends. You can't reasonably expect everyone to know everything. Also, in 2014, most things have changed to be more individualized - do things how YOU want. Maybe don't necessarily call it an "Engagement Party", make it more of a general party with a wedding theme? Perhaps that is about the same thing, but the people who come should be those who love and support you, so they should understand anyway. It's a time for happy celebration!
To everyone else, recognize that each individual has their own life which may be entirely different from your own, and they may handle stress differently than you. Message boards like this are supposed to be a place we can all come to on common ground with the same goal of trying to help make everyone's lives a little easier, including our own. And while I understand that the OP lied about the mother thing, what if it had been true and she wasn't comfortable talking in detail about something that may be embarrassing or very private and sensitive? It isn't our place to falsely read into things - just give positive, supportive advice where you can, or say nothing at all.
Re: When to throw engagement party?
As I have just gotten engaged and started planning myself I might not be the most help. But the best advice I have gotten so far is to ignore everyone, this is your wedding you make the rules. So take what everyone said listen, then ball it all up and throw it out the window! If you want it in May go for it, if you want to help you mom plan that's awesome, and if you get gifts sweet if not that's cool to. And as to everyone getting on your case I thought they were being rude as well and would have been upset by there answers to. Good luck with your wedding.
Rachel
Don't apologize to anyone for being frustrated with the responses. If you want to throw your own engagement party then you go right ahead. If you want to assist in planning your engagement party that someone else is throwing for you the you go right ahead. It is NOT tacky! This is, hopefully, a once in a lifetime experience for you and your fiancé so why shouldn't it be perfect. I'm not saying turn into a Bridezilla but you can still appreciate your mom for throwing the party AND have input in it as well. I've been to several engagement parties where gifts and well wishes we're given in a monetary form to help you along with the wedding. There is nothing wrong with planning your own, assisting in the planning or receiving gifts from your guests. good luck to you and your fiancé! I hope your engagement party and your wedding is everything you dreamed of.
As for the timing, if you're going to have a long engagement then try to have the party somewhere in the middle. You don't want to have it too far in advance before the wedding but you also don't want it too close. Picture your perfect party and go for that season. Just like the wedding, if all of the important people you want to share the day with can attend then the date is perfect be it a year after the engagement or a month.
I recently got engaged December 21, 2013. My mom was planning to host an engagement party in June 2014, around 6 months after. You can really do it whenever you want and there is nothing wrong with hosting your own engagement party. People host their own weddings, own bridal showers, so engagement parties are okay. Sometimes family can't pitch in or sometimes people just don't have the family. Doesn't mean you're not allowed to have one. And presents at engagement parties are not tacky at all! If someone wants to congratulate you with a present then they can. Read a bunch of wedding planning sites. They tell you to sign up for registries around the time of your engagement party.
Congrats and good luck!!!!
Good luck with everything and have fun.
But, in fact, there are rules against it. It is rude and self- important to throw a party in your own honor.
I really don't see how this is such a hard concept to grasp. If no one offers to host an engagement party, you dont get one. Its not the end of the world. Same goes with a bridal shower.
"Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."
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