Mosque in NYC

MarriedInAFever · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden? Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]

I think that would be insensitive to victims of the Sicilian Mafia.

zippityb · August 2010

Maybe the minestrone is. Maybe.

laladypoet · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Ding ding ding. What about the Christian extremists who kill abortionists. Is that THE Christian religion?
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]
anyone hear of the crusades?
ok then.

Calypso1977 · August 2010

Pearl Harbor was an ACT OF WAR!!!

i think the attacks of 9-11 were an act of war.

laladypoet · August 2010

NEW RULE: jews can't wear their death hats on easter to celebrate the murder of Jesus.

wadingmoose · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : I'm not in Europe or have even been there but from what I've been reading people still really like Obama. Just not Americans, you know?
Posted by andyandhillary[/QUOTE]

I think this thread shows why.

kellyjellybelly · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden? Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]
Now that I would get offended about. Olive Garden sucks.

cengle · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Why can't they just build something that everyone can enjoy, without controversy, like an Olive Garden? Endless soup, salad, and breadsticks holds no prejudice.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]

Mmmmm breadsticks. I could go for some about now.
When I tried to quote this the first time, it sent me a question on another board about David's Bridal dresses. Silly knot.

wadingmoose · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : anyone hear of the crusades? ok then.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

I believe we've gotten past that. Also, how is that related to the Inquisition? Same thing different name? Yeah. Christians have done their share of really really bad stuff.

Really.

What was Hitler's religion? (Shiver)

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Pearl Harbor was an ACT OF WAR!!! i think the attacks of 9-11 were an act of war.
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

But not in the same way. It wasn't a recognized government declaring war on another sovereign nation by attacking a military instillation. Hence the reason 9/11 was a "terrorist" attack rather than a declaration of war. In the eyes of the extremists, it was certainly war. As defined by actual rules of engagement? No.

We can debate the validity and application of the Geneva conventions as it relates to terrorism, guerilla warfare, and the sovereignty of nation-states, but that's an entirely different conversation.

wadingmoose · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Pearl Harbor was an ACT OF WAR!!! i think the attacks of 9-11 were an act of war.
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

by whom? What military? What government?

Right.

opalsky007 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Pearl Harbor was an ACT OF WAR!!! i think the attacks of 9-11 were an act of war.
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

An act of war by WHOM? A dozen guys in a cave in Afghanistan? A dozen guys without a country can't declare a war.

Unless they're playing RISK or something. And then it's on. Except that land wars in Asia always turn out badly.

zippityb · August 2010

Olive Garden has some kind of dessert that has a bunch of teeny tiny chocolate chips on the outside. I don't know how anyone could hate that. I think that dessert could unite the entire world.

ETA: It is the black tie mousse cake. A kumbayah in my mouth.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : I believe we've gotten past that. Also, how is that related to the Inquisition? Same thing different name? Yeah. Christians have done their share of really really bad stuff. Really. What was Hitler's religion? (Shiver)
Posted by wadingmoose[/QUOTE]

Well, he was a vegetarian. (I've had people use that against me as a reason to not be one. *headdesk*)

LD1970 · August 2010

I want to marry NuggetBrain & Stage Manager.

Any NYers I know are pro-mosque. And none are Muslim. So please don't use that "I'm a New Yorker and more sensitive" crap. It's just crap.

Another perspective: http://zacharymaichuk.wordpress.com/

Calypso1977 · August 2010

who were acting without govt backing

that we know of.....

jasmineh7777 · August 2010

I haven't read all of the responses.

I do not think it is in poor taste at all, because I do not hold any religious group accountable for the unfortunate acts of a few extremists.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · August 2010

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[QUOTE]who were acting without govt backing that we know of.....
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

Oh FFS...

opalsky007 · August 2010

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[QUOTE]who were acting without govt backing that we know of.....
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

Yeah, but to declare war, wouldn't you like, actually...declare it?

cengle · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Well, he was a vegetarian. (I've had people use that against me as a reason to not be one. *headdesk*)
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

Please tell me you're kidding. Or that they were kidding. or that someone, somewhere was kidding.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Please tell me you're kidding. Or that they were kidding. or that someone, somewhere was kidding.
Posted by cengle[/QUOTE]

Well, I've heard this argument on the internet, so I don't know if I can take it seriously. no one has had the balls to say that to my face.

jasmineh7777 · August 2010

Oh Calypso,

Here's the thing, the Taliban did not represent that country, hence the term "terrorist organization."

laladypoet · August 2010

I hate when new yorkers act like they own the sole rights to 9/11. yeah, it happened there. I get it. but it doesn't change anything.
and if 9/11 only affected new yorkers, I'd like my texas soldiers back please.

Calypso1977 · August 2010

not necessarily. lots of acts in history resulted in the start of wars or in countries joining wars already in progress... assassination of archduke ferndinand, sinking of lusitania... and the bombing of pearl harbor

kellyjellybelly · August 2010

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[QUOTE]Olive Garden has some kind of dessert that has a bunch of teeny tiny chocolate chips on the outside. I don't know how anyone could hate that. I think that dessert could unite the entire world. ETA: It is the black tie mousse cake. A kumbayah in my mouth.
Posted by zippityb[/QUOTE]
Well, I also hate chocolate, so there's that. It may be my own personal mind process when I hear "Olive Garden" It goes like this: dinner at Olive Garden with ILs. I dislike Olive Garden, I dislike ILs. Then FIL LICKS the bottle of wine that is being shared by the table. You know, when you pour a glass and a little wine dribble escapes onto the stem of the bottle? Yep, he licked it.

wadingmoose · August 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mosque in NYC : Well, he was a vegetarian. (I've had people use that against me as a reason to not be one. *headdesk*)
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

That's IT, no vegetarian restaurants shall be allowed in Germany! No?

laladypoet · August 2010

I think the terrorist attacks were an act of war. I thought that was understood. it was an act of holy war by an extremist group.
I'm sure THEY saw it as an act of war, in any case.

Calypso1977 · August 2010

i never said taliban represented a country... but they get their funding and resources from someone, some thing or some country(ies).

jasmineh7777 · August 2010

Calypso-
After Pear Harbor, we put the Japanese in Internment Camps. I'm hoping we have a country have moved passed this kind of shameful and embarrasing behavior.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · August 2010

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[QUOTE]who were acting without govt backing that we know of.....
Posted by Calypso1977[/QUOTE]

As a follow up:

Just because Syria, for example, funnels money to Hezbollah and openly allows several declared "terrorist" organizations to operate within their borders does NOT mean they openly condone every last thing said terrorist organizations do and most CERTAINLY does not mean they have/will declare open war on Israel.

I'm not defending Syria as awesome and blameless, I'm just using an example.

And the Taliban government of Afghanistan also doesn't count for shiit. They're not even "really Muslim."

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