Holiday Confessions

kikibaby

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : Then why should anyone be allowed to have pets if the assumption is that everyone is just going to turn it over? I'm a perpetual believer in people. I always think people are going to do the right thing. A fault I guess.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

LVB, I love ya, but this is a symptom of youth and/or naivete.  People suck (generally).

Snippylynn

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[QUOTE]That is a smart move, Amoro.  When I got my dog, I had a yard, and life was easier.  Now we're in an apartment, so my whole day must revolve around the dog's bladder.  Not that she's not worth it, but there are days.
Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]
Yeah, especially when you consider that I have to do this when i go out:
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andy71781

so cute Ldy!

pink - I think that's awesome.  I used to do that in Chicago and it really made me feel great.  I'm working with this organization called Minnesota Spay Neuter Assistance Program that helps low-income people with spay/neuter services for cheap.  Its so rewarding to work with puppies and kitties.

LDYGTR13

Snips, we doggysat SIL's pug puppy for a weekend once, it reminded me that I dont have the patience for a puppy. Millions of adult dogs that know where to pee and can behave are in shelters and need homes too - so that's our plan. But I totally agree that having a yard is SO much better than an apartment. It's so great that we can just let X go run and play and she doesn't have to do it in our house!

pinkpinot

Actually LVB I don't necessarily feel that way about everyone who gives up their dogs.  Now a majority of the people I encounter who give up their pets say they have no time or whatever.  I hate that excuse because if you have no time why did you get a dog?  People who lose their job/house to foreclosure and have to move, can't take their pets, upsets me because I want to help them keep their animals.  Those people have lost enough and I don't want to see them lose their faithful companion.  If I can supply them with dog food or a temporary foster home until they get back on their feet, I will do that. 

louisvillebride21

Yeah, I've seen people flamed from hell to back because they had to give their animal to a *good home*. Not a shelter, but a friend. Oh, it's a member of the family, you should have thought about your animal before your husband got transferred across the country and you can't feasibly take your animal with you. I think people get so fuucking holier than thou about it.

I totally agree that people who just decide that they don't want their animal anymore and see them as disposable goods really, really suck. But I don't like the lumping of everyone together.

Snippylynn

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : I've met very, very few well trained dogs. Until we can invest the energy into a pet like H's parents have, i don't want one. Calvin is better behaved than a child. I refuse to have a dog that's jumping all over people, doesn't listen and is generally bad mannered. I hate going over to H's best friends house because that damn dog wont stay the eff off me. I love dogs. I do not love dogs that don't understand to stay down.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

I mean, I'm not trying to take away its personality, but when it's on a leash, it should not try to run after people, or dogs or drag its owner down the stairs.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : I just have trouble understanding why people who can't keep a dog don't try to find a good home for it, rather than dash it off to the shelter.  My parents had to give up a dog when I was little, and they found a home for it.  My sister had to give up a dog when she got a divorce, and it lives on an awesome farm now.  I have trouble believing people wake up one morning and have to get rid of the dog so quickly they can't try and find a good home for him/her.
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

THIS. There are many more options for someone who CARES about their pet and literally just cannot keep it than driving over to a shelter and waving goodbye.

That's how I found Nimbus, actually. I got him from a couple who had a baby who was allergic - so they HAD to get rid of their cats. The woman kept the cats and baby separate until they could find good homes for both cats, because she had contacted all the no kill shelters she could find and they were all full. Nimbus was 7 when I got him, which means it would have been less likely someone adopted him before it was too late at a traditional shelter. The woman had been SO concerned she wasn't going to find a home for him because of his age. I, however, wanted an adult cat. It all worked out. He's 13 now and I've had him for 6.5 years.

emilyinchile

Oh Snippy, that picture is fabulous! I'm sorry the dog is a nightmare. We don't have a yard, and if H didn't have a flexible schedule we wouldn't be able to have a dog. Luckily he does, plus he has spent hours and hours training Lola, so she gets to go out plenty and is well behaved enough that we can take her most places.

louisvillebride21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : LVB, I love ya, but this is a symptom of youth and/or naivete.  People suck (generally).
Posted by kikibaby[/QUOTE]

ACtually, it's a symptom of growing up the way I did. No one would give us a break and everyone thought we were trailer trash. No, we were just poor and couldn't get ahead for anything. So I've decided to live my life thinking the best of people.

georgia_bride09

I've had to give a dog away, but she went to a friend of my mom's. I get more pissed at people who don't ever have any plan to fix their animals and act so surprised when they get knocked up. Especially when they're outside cats that get knocked up over and over. 

LDYGTR13

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[QUOTE]so cute Ldy! pink - I think that's awesome.  I used to do that in Chicago and it really made me feel great.  I'm working with this organization called Minnesota Spay Neuter Assistance Program that helps low-income people with spay/neuter services for cheap.  Its so rewarding to work with puppies and kitties.
Posted by andy71781[/QUOTE]

We totally did that with the stray cat we found! We we worried we weren't going to keep him (we did...Thor is awesome), but we wanted to make sure we weren't putting out a kitty making machine and didn't have the funds to pay for a cat we weren't even sure we were going to keep to get his junk cut off so we took him to the Mississippi Spay and Neuter place - they did it for $15 and we just donated a ton of stuff to them in exchange (which you aren't required to do, but we did anyway). Those associations seem to be SO underused! I didn't even know it existed until we found Thor!

pinkpinot

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[QUOTE]I would just like to confess (while on the subject of dogs) that since I've been watching one the past several days, I've decided I don't want one until we live in a place with a yard.  Also?  I kind of hate this dog.  A lot.  She's bad mannered, and just not very lovable.  I've been pulled down 3 times in the last couple of days because she doesn't get that she can't just run while on a leash.  No matter what I do, she just doesn't. get. it.  Pretty sure her owners have never bothered to do anything with her.  and it makes so mad.
Posted by Snippylynn[/QUOTE]

I can't image owning a dog without a yard because it is SO NICE to just open the front door & out everyone goes (except the puppy and it's annoying lol). 

emilyinchile

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : ACtually, it's a symptom of growing up the way I did. No one would give us a break and everyone thought we were trailer trash. No, we were just poor and couldn't get ahead for anything. So I've decided to live my life thinking the best of people.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

This is interesting to me because a friend who grew up poor (not as poor as it sounds like you were, but single-mom struggling to make ends meet) also always thinks the best of people and gives people a million chances because she is so grateful to the people who helped her have opportunities growing up.

Snippylynn

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[QUOTE]Oh Snippy, that picture is fabulous! I'm sorry the dog is a nightmare. We don't have a yard, and if H didn't have a flexible schedule we wouldn't be able to have a dog. Luckily he does, plus he has spent hours and hours training Lola, so she gets to go out plenty and is well behaved enough that we can take her most places.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

I try to keep her on the leash for as long as possible, but she hates it, so she's constantly running and jerking on it.  Eventually, my arms hurt from trying to hold her and I take her off.  Then I have to keep an eye out for people or dogs because she'll run up to them and bark.  She won't do anything but bark, but it's scary to people who don't know that she won't bite.  Honestly?  I just think her owners are lazy and haven't spent the time with her that's needed.  When I get a job, they're going to have a VERY hard time finding someone to deal with her.

pinkpinot

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[QUOTE]I've had to give a dog away, but she went to a friend of my mom's. I get more pissed at people who don't ever have any plan to fix their animals and act so surprised when they get knocked up. Especially when they're outside cats that get knocked up over and over. 
Posted by georgia_bride09[/QUOTE]

I don't like people that use the shelter as their birth control.  Just drop the puppies off, let someone else deal with it. 

louisvillebride21

I did feel like a heel one time. I found a kitten shivering under H's truck one night. I put out milk for it and it was still there the next morning. I brought it in the house and played with it in the bathroom (all tile and small) for a couple of hours. We tried to think of any way we could keep it and jsut couldn't. We had to turn it into the shelter. And we had to pay to do it (shocked the hell otu of me!). I was bawling, like heaving that we had to do it. I KNOW that girl thought I was just turning it over for some dumb reason. No one would believe that I was crying that hard for a kitten I had 'had' for only 2 hours.

andy71781

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[QUOTE]Yeah, I've seen people flamed from hell to back because they had to give their animal to a *good home*. Not a shelter, but a friend. Oh, it's a member of the family, you should have thought about your animal before your husband got transferred across the country and you can't feasibly take your animal with you. I think people get so fuucking holier than thou about it. I totally agree that people who just decide that they don't want their animal anymore and see them as disposable goods really, really suck. But I don't like the lumping of everyone together.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
I'm picking up what you are putting down LVB - I think we are on the same page. 

LDYGTR13

Yikes, Snips. At least you're being a trooper!

georgia_bride09

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[QUOTE]Snips, we doggysat SIL's pug puppy for a weekend once, it reminded me that I dont have the patience for a puppy. Millions of adult dogs that know where to pee and can behave are in shelters and need homes too - so that's our plan. But I totally agree that having a yard is SO much better than an apartment. It's so great that we can just let X go run and play and she doesn't have to do it in our house!
Posted by LDYGTR13[/QUOTE]

Wait, so y'all already have a dog, and for Christmas you got an IOU for another dog? Yeah, I'd ask for jewelry for sure.

Snippylynn

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : This is interesting to me because a friend who grew up poor (not as poor as it sounds like you were, but single-mom struggling to make ends meet) also always thinks the best of people and gives people a million chances because she is so grateful to the people who helped her have opportunities growing up.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

Hm.  I'm more cynical, but I definitely grew up really poor.  If I showed you a picture of the house I grew up in, you wouldn't think so, but my dad was injured at work, and as part of his settlement (he was never able to work again) he got a lot of money, so they bought a lot of property and built a house.  That was all they had.  We were struggling so hard all the time.  Sometimes not even knowing if we'd eat that day.  But people treated us (and me) like crap because we came from a "bad" family and we were always going to be stupid, lazy, troublemakers. 

So, I assume people suck until proven otherwise.

andy71781

lvb a little kitten like that?  I'm sure she got adopted really quickly.  You did the right thing.

louisvillebride21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : This is interesting to me because a friend who grew up poor (not as poor as it sounds like you were, but single-mom struggling to make ends meet) also always thinks the best of people and gives people a million chances because she is so grateful to the people who helped her have opportunities growing up.
Posted by emilyinchile[/QUOTE]

No one gave us a chance. I didn't have a prayer until my dad passed away when I was 15. I'm extremely grateful to my adoptive parents. But H's mom is exactly the type of woman that would have spit on us. She DESPISES homeless people. She often goes on tirades about them. It angers me and hurts me because I was exactly where they were. As a kid, damnit. I want to set her straight so bad, but on the other hand, it's none of her GD business. H knows and always tries to run interception, but never before I'm seeing red.

LDYGTR13

Haha yes, GA, we already have a lab, cat, 2 rats and 2 tarantulas and I got an IOU for another dog. I'm pretty sure if he was the main dog caregiver he would not be giving me this IOU.

louisvillebride21

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Holiday Confessions : Hm.  I'm more cynical, but I definitely grew up really poor.  If I showed you a picture of the house I grew up in, you wouldn't think so, but my dad was injured at work, and as part of his settlement (he was never able to work again) he got a lot of money, so they bought a lot of property and built a house.  That was all they had.  We were struggling so hard all the time.  Sometimes not even knowing if we'd eat that day.  But people treated us (and me) like crap because we came from a "bad" family and we were always going to be stupid, lazy, troublemakers.  So, I assume people suck until proven otherwise.
Posted by Snippylynn[/QUOTE]
Yup. When we did have a home, it was always a trailer. I remember my dad not eating a lot of times so I could. And we were definitely thought of the same way. But I guess it just made me root for the under dog, always, always.

pinkpinot

I grew up really poor too, LVB.  Your MIL needs a roundhouse kick to the jugular. 

louisvillebride21

Fucking-A she does.

Snippylynn

I guess for me, my sisters really are lazy troublemakers, so...  I don't know.  People make choices.  I give those who need help and are going to do good with it a shot, but those who aren't... well, I don't give them a second look.

pinkpinot

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[QUOTE]Haha yes, GA, we already have a lab, cat, 2 rats and 2 tarantulas and I got an IOU for another dog. I'm pretty sure if he was the main dog caregiver he would not be giving me this IOU.
Posted by LDYGTR13[/QUOTE]

Your doggie is so cute.  I LOVE kong toys.

Ewwww spiders?  Hahaha I am getting chills thinking about them.

LDYGTR13

At least you've got an obviously awesomely loving H, LVB. Everytime I see your sig pic it makes me feel all gooey. It's really cool that he tries to run interception for you. H would probably just walk away from a situation like that.